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[Vlad]

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[Sia’s Botique]

It looks good,from 1997

Thank you so much Hyacinth! I appreciate your help.

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

Genuine, early 1990s

Thank you!

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

It's fine.

Thank you!

 

[Hyacinth]

The full grain leather makes it hard to capture View attachment 5713246View attachment 5713247View attachment 5713248

I still think it's good. I think I can see the style number and it looks to have a 1996 year code.

Again, please wait for confirmation. (Not saying it hasn't been done but I can't recall seeing a fake in this style.)

I'm very concerned about the creed wording.

The serial prefix looks like D6B but I have another D6B creed in my files. The spacing of the serial number in relation to the creed itself looks very different, and the line midway thru the creed in the questionable bag seems to say "the variations in the grain..." where the one in my files starts "Gentle tumbling provides...". See the example below, it's hard to read I know.

I need to see a full photo of the entire bag. It looks like there's a bit of a stamped magnetic snap in two of thephotos, and I DON'T like what I'm seeing. I MUST see a close and readable photo of the stamping on the snap and any other mag snaps. That's one of the details listed in the photo requirements at the top of each page, and there's a very good reason for it. Please hold off on any further cleaning until I see the additional photos.


Genuine Sonoma creed, same serial prefix, give me a few more minutes to post the details of the questionable bag:





ETA- sorry about the duplicate pic, I can't get rid of it. It's just "one of those days..."

 

[Hyacinth]

I'm very concerned about the creed wording.

The serial prefix looks like D6B but I have another D6B creed from a 1996 Sonoma in my files. The spacing of the serial number in relation to the creed itself looks very different, and the line midway thru the creed in the questionable bag seems to say "the variations in the grain..." where the one in my files for a Sonoma starts "Gentle tumbling provides...". See the example below, it's hard to read I know.

I need to see a full photo of the entire bag. It looks like there's a bit of a stamped magnetic snap in two of thephotos, and I DON'T like what I'm seeing. I MUST see a close and readable photo of the stamping on the snap and any other mag snaps. That's one of the details listed in the photo requirements at the top of each page. Please hold off on any further cleaning until I see the additional photos.


Genuine Sonoma creed, same serial prefix, give me a few more minutes to post the details of the questionable bag:

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Sorry, that is NOT a Coach magnetic snap. Click on the thumbnails to enlarge.






I believe it's fake.

 

[BeenBurned]

I'm very concerned about the creed wording.

The serial prefix looks like D6B but I have another D6B creed in my files. The spacing of the serial number in relation to the creed itself looks very different, and the line midway thru the creed in the questionable bag seems to say "the variations in the grain..." where the one in my files starts "Gentle tumbling provides...". See the example below, it's hard to read I know.

I need to see a full photo of the entire bag. It looks like there's a bit of a stamped magnetic snap in two of thephotos, and I DON'T like what I'm seeing. I MUST see a close and readable photo of the stamping on the snap and any other mag snaps. That's one of the details listed in the photo requirements at the top of each page. Please hold off on any further cleaning until I see the additional photos.


Genuine Sonoma creed, same serial prefix, give me a few more minutes to post the details of the questionable bag:

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For the record, I sold a 4923 Sonoma bag that had ""the variations in the grain" on the creed. It's my only Sonoma example (from bags in my possession) with the variations text.

 

[Hyacinth]

For the record, I sold a 4923 Sonoma bag that had ""the variations in the grain" on the creed. It's my only Sonoma example (from bags in my possession) with the variations text.


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Remember, in 1998 and beyond until it finally closed, the Costa Rica plant was the dumping ground for all the leftover equipment and bits and pieces from the plants that were being shut down. Coach probably decided that it wasn't worth sending them any new equipment or hardware if they had something used that would suffice. That's why they had to use serial stamps showing 1994 year codes in bags made in 2004.

That's probably a good example. Thanks for the photo.

 

[whateve]

It looks like a Sonoma drawstring natural grain shoulder bag (4923) to me but I can't read a thing on the creed (except "Coach").

Can you get a more legible picture?

Other opinions are welcome.

The full grain leather makes it hard to capture View attachment 5713246View attachment 5713247View attachment 5713248

I think it is fake.

 

[BeenBurned]

I'm very concerned about the creed wording.

The serial prefix looks like D6B but I have another D6B creed in my files. The spacing of the serial number in relation to the creed itself looks very different, and the line midway thru the creed in the questionable bag seems to say "the variations in the grain..." where the one in my files starts "Gentle tumbling provides...". See the example below, it's hard to read I know.

I need to see a full photo of the entire bag. It looks like there's a bit of a stamped magnetic snap in two of thephotos, and I DON'T like what I'm seeing. I MUST see a close and readable photo of the stamping on the snap and any other mag snaps. That's one of the details listed in the photo requirements at the top of each page, and there's a very good reason for it. Please hold off on any further cleaning until I see the additional photos.


Genuine Sonoma creed, same serial prefix, give me a few more minutes to post the details of the questionable bag:

View attachment 5713605

View attachment 5713606

ETA- sorry about the duplicate pic, I can't get rid of it. It's just "one of those days..."

Sorry, that is NOT a Coach magnetic snap. Click on the thumbnails to enlarge.

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I believe it's fake.

I think this is the first time I've seen (or that my aging memory recalls) that I've seen a fake of this particular Sonoma bag. That the bag has the "correct" lining is scary!

But in searching for other examples, either fake or authentic, I came across another listing of a definitely fake one!

And the creed is eerily similar to the bag in question:
Fake from jag546 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/225380003413


And side by side comps of padelca's bag vs. the fake on ebay.


I'm sorry @padelca. I agree that upon further comparison, your bag is fake.

 

[whateve]

I think this is the first time I've seen (or that my aging memory recalls) that I've seen a fake of this particular Sonoma bag. That the bag has the "correct" lining is scary!

But in searching for other examples, either fake or authentic, I came across another listing of a definitely fake one!

And the creed is eerily similar to the bag in question:
Fake from jag546 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/225380003413
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And side by side comps of padelca's bag vs. the fake on ebay.
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I'm sorry @padelca. I agree that upon further comparison, your bag is fake.

I think the lining is slightly off too. The stripes seem too thin. Count the stripe repeat on this creed picture and compare it to the number of stripes under the creed of @padelca bag.






It also seems to be a warning flag whenever a Sonoma has a lot of space at the bottom of a creed.

 

[Hyacinth]

I think the lining is slightly off too. The stripes seem too thin. Count the stripe repeat on this creed picture and compare it to the number of stripes under the creed of @padelca bag.

It also seems to be a warning flag whenever a Sonoma has a lot of space at the bottom of a creed.

Good observation about all the extra the space at the bottom of the creed in Sonoma fakes. There are just a few examples in my files, click on the thumbnails.




This is an odd one. It's either a total mess in the creed department, or one of the very VERY few fakes we'd ever seen with Costa Rica on the creed. We decided it was fake 3 years ago.

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[mmmegannn]

Item: vintage coach city bag
Where purchased or how obtained: Poshmark
Creed reads: THIS A COACH BAG. IT WAS HANDCRAFTED IN COSTA RICA OF COMPLETELY NATURAL GLOVE-TANNED COWHIDE. THE VARIATIONS IN THE GRAIN ARE CHARACTERISTIC OF NATURAL FULL GRAIN LEATHER.

Serial number M7M-9790

Measurements:8.5x10.2
Width of bottom: 3.5

Any help much appreciated!!!

 

[brehy0440]

Hi all! I took a risk and bought my very first vintage coach bag from a secondhand store. I believe it’s the Dinky. After further scrutinization I have my doubts and think it could be fake? I would appreciate any help. Thank you

 

[Jujufinder]

Both are fine.

I believe detres2 and detroit-resale are the same seller/person selling on 2 different accounts. (That's completely ebay-legal.)

Thank you, @BeenBurned !

 

[SquidwardsMom]

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