Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

It's fine.

Thank you!

 

[SJAllison]

Item: Vintage Coach Brown Leather Crossbody Shoulder Bag
Listing number: Unknown
Seller and site where listed: Poshstuff2020 on Poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintag...ossbody-Shoulder-Bag-62cad213b51256d5e8235d44
Comments: This bag arrived and it is absolutely gorgeous! Maybe my new favorite style... I think it's called a Devon bag. Please and thank you for taking a look.

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I have a brown and a black one and love them!

 

[Roro]

Would you please authenticate this Sonoma bag listed on eBay by seller ravensolange
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255869148676
As always, your time is appreciated

Good choice! I have and love this exact bag. They don't come up very often. A suede brush will be your best friend with this.

 

[ciaodenny]

I was wondering if you guys can take a look at this bag. Purchased at savers

 

[BeenBurned]

I was wondering if you guys can take a look at this bag. Purchased at savers

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Creed?

 

[prettynpink366]

Can you help me authenticate this bag please?

Item: Coach Top Handle Tabby 20
Where purchased or how obtained: eBay
Comments: Purchased from Japanese seller; the hangtag looks weird to me.

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Any thoughts or help on this? Thanks all!

 

[BeenBurned]

Can you help me authenticate this bag please?

Item: Coach Top Handle Tabby 20
Where purchased or how obtained: eBay
Comments: Purchased from Japanese seller; the hangtag looks weird to me.

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Any thoughts or help on this? Thanks all!

We need the seller iD and a link to the listing from which you purchased.

 

[prettynpink366]

We need the seller iD and a link to the listing from which you purchased.

Seller ID: toste_1643

Link: www.eBay.com/itm/314241640089

 

[BeenBurned]

Can you help me authenticate this bag please?

Item: Coach Top Handle Tabby 20
Where purchased or how obtained: eBay
Comments: Purchased from Japanese seller; the hangtag looks weird to me.

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We need the seller iD and a link to the listing from which you purchased.

Seller ID: toste_1643

Link: www.eBay.com/itm/314241640089

To be honest, I'm uncomfortable recommending and authenticating items from Japanese sellers, especially when it comes to new sellers with recent styles of items. (Established Japanese sellers of vintage bag have also become notorious for having fake vintage bags, MANY of them Korean fakes.)

toste_1643 has a dreadful 89% feedback score although the negs aren't for fake items but do show a seller's listings on which I would have hit the "back" button!

Regarding this listing and several of his/her other listings, although described as "new with tags," none of the tags are shown and none of the listings show enough detailed pictures to accurately assess authenticity.

The newer style fakes from within the last 5 years or so coming from Japanese sellers are extremely close and often, one of the most definitive tools would be pictures of the props that are included. Tags, receipts, dust bags, etc. are often very telling.

In a lot of cases, they blur the pictures just enough that details aren't clear enough to read, tags and receipts photoshopped to obliterate obvious errors, or pictures of definitive elements and items are not shown. Sometimes they show genuine props from authentic items to fool buyers.

In fact, I believe everyone should read this thread I began over 3.5 years ago. Not much has changed since I posted that thread other than that there are way more sellers of fakes, way more newer styles that are being peddled and I can only recommend being extremely cautious when buying from sellers in Japan.

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

Bottom line, the pictures, lack of clear and definitive pictures in the listing, poor seller history and other details make me uncomfortable about the bag. I cannot say one way or the other if it's genuine.

Sorry.

ETA: Although we don't use hangtags by themselves to verify authenticity of a bag, a hangtag can raise red flags in a listing that may be questionable. In this case, you mentioned the hangtag and I'll say that the double stamping is bothersome.

 

[Scarlet614]

And how dependable is a company that authenticates with those pictures?!?!

I actually got Goodwill to send the creed!

 

[ciaodenny]

Creed?

Sorry lol it didn’t send it

 

[BeenBurned]

Can you help me authenticate this bag please?

Item: Coach Top Handle Tabby 20
Where purchased or how obtained: eBay
Comments: Purchased from Japanese seller; the hangtag looks weird to me.

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Seller ID: toste_1643

Link: www.eBay.com/itm/314241640089

To be honest, I'm uncomfortable recommending and authenticating items from Japanese sellers, especially when it comes to new sellers with recent styles of items. (Established Japanese sellers of vintage bag have also become notorious for having fake vintage bags, MANY of them Korean fakes.)

toste_1643 has a dreadful 89% feedback score although the negs aren't for fake items but do show a seller's listings on which I would have hit the "back" button!

Regarding this listing and several of his/her other listings, although described as "new with tags," none of the tags are shown and none of the listings show enough detailed pictures to accurately assess authenticity.

The newer style fakes from within the last 5 years or so coming from Japanese sellers are extremely close and often, one of the most definitive tools would be pictures of the props that are included. Tags, receipts, dust bags, etc. are often very telling.

In a lot of cases, they blur the pictures just enough that details aren't clear enough to read, tags and receipts photoshopped to obliterate obvious errors, or pictures of definitive elements and items are not shown. Sometimes they show genuine props from authentic items to fool buyers.

In fact, I believe everyone should read this thread I began over 3.5 years ago. Not much has changed since I posted that thread other than that there are way more sellers of fakes, way more newer styles that are being peddled and I can only recommend being extremely cautious when buying from sellers in Japan.

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

Bottom line, the pictures, lack of clear and definitive pictures in the listing, poor seller history and other details make me uncomfortable about the bag. I cannot say one way or the other if it's genuine.

Sorry.

ETA: Although we don't use hangtags by themselves to verify authenticity of a bag, a hangtag can raise red flags in a listing that may be questionable. In this case, you mentioned the hangtag and I'll say that the double stamping is bothersome.

FOLLOWUP:

@prettynpink366
Please open a NAD (not as described) case against the seller. The bag is fake. (And that the bag is fake shows how close those Japanese sellers' fakes are! A minor detail such as the back of the snap closure is definitive proof.)

Compare:


ETA: This is a Korean fake listed by toste_1643:

COACH Women's Leather Shoulder Bag Dark Brown Retro from Japan Used Good (K) | eBay

Old coach bag. It's a cute retro bag. We are located in Japan. Width about 19 cm. Length about 20 cm.

www.ebay.com

 

[BeenBurned]

I actually got Goodwill to send the creed!
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It's authentic but should never have been authenticated without that picture!

 

[BeenBurned]

I was wondering if you guys can take a look at this bag. Purchased at savers

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Creed?

Sorry lol it didn’t send it

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It's fine.

 

[prettynpink366]

To be honest, I'm uncomfortable recommending and authenticating items from Japanese sellers, especially when it comes to new sellers with recent styles of items. (Established Japanese sellers of vintage bag have also become notorious for having fake vintage bags, MANY of them Korean fakes.)

toste_1643 has a dreadful 89% feedback score although the negs aren't for fake items but do show a seller's listings on which I would have hit the "back" button!

Regarding this listing and several of his/her other listings, although described as "new with tags," none of the tags are shown and none of the listings show enough detailed pictures to accurately assess authenticity.

The newer style fakes from within the last 5 years or so coming from Japanese sellers are extremely close and often, one of the most definitive tools would be pictures of the props that are included. Tags, receipts, dust bags, etc. are often very telling.

In a lot of cases, they blur the pictures just enough that details aren't clear enough to read, tags and receipts photoshopped to obliterate obvious errors, or pictures of definitive elements and items are not shown. Sometimes they show genuine props from authentic items to fool buyers.

In fact, I believe everyone should read this thread I began over 3.5 years ago. Not much has changed since I posted that thread other than that there are way more sellers of fakes, way more newer styles that are being peddled and I can only recommend being extremely cautious when buying from sellers in Japan.

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

Bottom line, the pictures, lack of clear and definitive pictures in the listing, poor seller history and other details make me uncomfortable about the bag. I cannot say one way or the other if it's genuine.

Sorry.

ETA: Although we don't use hangtags by themselves to verify authenticity of a bag, a hangtag can raise red flags in a listing that may be questionable. In this case, you mentioned the hangtag and I'll say that the double stamping is bothersome.

Thanks for the thorough response! I’m going to return it, just too many questions for my level of comfort.