Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
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• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
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  Listing number:
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[BeenBurned]

Request for authentication (for a friend that’s arguing with PM and seller for a refund)

https://posh.mk/oiDhPzH5Qrb

Counterfeit Saddle Bag
Seller: fabulous518

I know this bag is no good but buyer would like to send pm some evidence of it being counterfeit. Seller is not being cooperative about return so here we are.

Thanks in advance!

definitely fake. I don't know how you can convince Posh of that as it isn't obvious to someone who isn't familiar with creeds. I don't have any relevant examples of creeds to show the difference. What does the back of the female part of the turnlock look like?

In my experience, you don't need to convince the seller, just PM.

Can you post a readable photo of the full creed and serial number the same approximate size as the one you just posted of the back of the turnlock so I can check my files for comparable examples in fake or genuine bags? Thanks.

The indented turnlock is a major red flag in spite of at least one Poshmark seller's assertions over the last 2 years that "Coach started to use indented turnlocks on some remakes". However, this is apparently NOT a remake, and the seller making that assertion never included photos of any examples. Also indented turnlocks on newer styles probably would have a different overall design than the classic turnlocks on vintage Coaches as did turnlocks on almost all Coaches made after 2010 that I can recall seeing. So far I've never seen an indented turnlock on any vintage Coach where the photos showed details especially creed and serial number photos that are exact matches for genuine examples.

And I've never seen that style with contrast stitching either.

Although this post isn't necessarily on topic regarding the recent fake sold by the poshmark seller, it does show the history of the seller.

For the record, the saddle bag wannabe isn't the only fake listed and/or sold by fabulous518.

@Busykitty - Feel free to refer the buyer of the fake to this post and to Poshmark to show what a dreadful history fabulous518 has.

Someone paid $85 (plus shipping) for this pos: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Willis-Crossbody-9927-62b9c685bcbb52a6c9e56bbf

Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-...houlder-BagCrossbody-627e4ae0bb5937ec9de7f668

Another: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Vintage-Weston-Shopper-61c4a537efd0e41a27a52461

Coach "Vintage" Bag

Shop fabulous518's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Coach black vintage black leather bag with brass t one hardware Approx: 11"Wx7"Hx3"D Strap drop: 11" Interior: 3 compartments ;zip center & pocket Exterior: matching strap and fob...

poshmark.com

Coach Small Vintage Clutch

Shop fabulous518's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Coach Small Vintage blue black leather clutch; YKK zip top closure and fob Approx: 7.5"Wx4.5"Hx1.75"D Good Vintage condition with minor wear

poshmark.com

OMG! https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Vintage-Legacy-Soho-4158-Crossbody-5fc418b13a0db94c79eb6f35

Coach Vintage "Patricia Legacy" #9951

Shop fabulous518's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Coach Vintage "Patricia Legacy" black leather shoulder messenger bag with silver tone hardware; flap/zipper closures; adjustable strap; interior zip/slip pockets Approx...

poshmark.com

Coach Vintage Mini Clutch "CLOSET CLEARANCE"

Shop fabulous518's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. "CLOSET CLEARANCE" Coach beautiful navy blue mini clutch with matching fob and brass tone Approx: 7.5"Wx4"Hx1.75"D Very good pre owned condition

poshmark.com

There were probably more fakes but I've given up going through them further.

 

[vikach]

Hello! Please let me know if it’s authentic.
Found on Poshmark
Seller: kpfapp

https://posh.mk/VgULvPnlRrb

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

BOTH appear genuine, they're a version of the Hamptons Leather Flap Satchel made in 2004.

Thank you!! I don't know why, but I keep seeing this bag or similar. Another one on shopgoodwill. https://shopgoodwill.com/item/148470069

 

[BeenBurned]

Request for authentication (for a friend that’s arguing with PM and seller for a refund)

https://posh.mk/oiDhPzH5Qrb

Counterfeit Saddle Bag
Seller: fabulous518

I know this bag is no good but buyer would like to send pm some evidence of it being counterfeit. Seller is not being cooperative about return so here we are.

Thanks in advance!

definitely fake. I don't know how you can convince Posh of that as it isn't obvious to someone who isn't familiar with creeds. I don't have any relevant examples of creeds to show the difference. What does the back of the female part of the turnlock look like?

In my experience, you don't need to convince the seller, just PM.

Here's a comparison of the creed on fabulous518's fake bag vs. a creed from an authentic Coach bag made in the same month, year and factory.

 

[whateve]

Hello! Please let me know if it’s authentic.
Found on Poshmark
Seller: kpfapp

https://posh.mk/VgULvPnlRrb

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Authentic

 

[Hyacinth]

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I don’t think these double rows of stitching above and below the creed are correct either.

Thanks very much.That *7B- prefix seems to be a huge favorite with counterfeiters, I have at least 20 in my files with various month codes and roughly 75-80 percent of them are fake.

One of the few positively genuine examples is below, and it's a bag I personally own and I made absolutely sure before I bought it that it was genuine.



Note the too-thick "H" in the Coach logo in the fake, the horizontal lines on the upper right and lower left ends of the "N" in "No" and especially the different positions of the underscore line and the size difference in the "o"s in the same abbreviation, the slightly different shape of the 9s, and the different spacing between the center dashes in the 2 serial numbers. Small differences, but as we've said before, most of the early plants' creed stamps during that time period were as unique to their individual plants as fingerprints are to humans, especially plants B thru E.


The creed and serial from the genuine bag BeenBurned posted is from the same style as mine, one that's been discussed here more than once, click on the thumbnail to enlarge:

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello! Please let me know if it’s authentic.
Found on Poshmark
Seller: kpfapp

https://posh.mk/VgULvPnlRrb

View attachment 5573020

It's a genuine Maggie Duffle made in 1997

 

[lucy7550]

Dear authenticators,

I’d appreciate help in authenticating this bag on eBay:

Vintage Coach Black Leather Adjustable Strap Shoulder Bag | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Vintage Coach Black Leather Adjustable Strap Shoulder Bag at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

Seller: star4g5m
Listing # 225084985373
Serial number: looks like 0065-338, hard to read, a pre-1994 Murphy
Measurements: 9 X 6 x 3” approximately (seller is not measuring it properly and gives a wider width)

Thank you, as always - I appreciate your knowledge and generosity in sharing it!

Lucy

 

[BeenBurned]

Dear authenticators,

I’d appreciate help in authenticating this bag on eBay:

Vintage Coach Black Leather Adjustable Strap Shoulder Bag | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Vintage Coach Black Leather Adjustable Strap Shoulder Bag at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

Seller: star4g5m
Listing # 225084985373
Serial number: looks like 0065-338, hard to read, a pre-1994 Murphy
Measurements: 9 X 6 x 3” approximately (seller is not measuring it properly and gives a wider width)

Thank you, as always - I appreciate your knowledge and generosity in sharing it!

Lucy

It's fine. (ETA: I don't know where she copied the serial number that's shown in the descripiton but it's not from the bag shown.)

Again, the bag is fine.

 

[LadaZuri]

Dear Authenticators, could you please have a look at this Ebay coin purse?

Many thanks for all you do!!!

Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/225084615886?hash=item346816acce:g:PewAAOSw8Ddi2aU2

Seller: geauxsa36

Listing number: 225084615886

Bumping for authentication when you have time. Many thanks for the incredible service you provide!

 

[BeenBurned]

Dear Authenticators, could you please have a look at this Ebay coin purse?

Many thanks for all you do!!!

Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/225084615886?hash=item346816acce:g:PewAAOSw8Ddi2aU2

Seller: geauxsa36

Listing number: 225084615886

Bumping for authentication when you have time. Many thanks for the incredible service you provide!

I saw the request but I'm not familiar with the particular item. And because the creed picture is blurry, I can't see or read it well enough to make an accurate opinion.

I will say that the seller is VERY wrong in describing it as "vintage" as it's not even close to 20 years old and in the item specifics, she calls it "Coach Sonoma." (I know ebay has some incorrect default options, but it's better for sellers to leave those boxes blank than to post inaccurate info.)

If you can get a crystal clear and legible picture of the creed from the seller, I'll give it another look.

 

[LadaZuri]

I saw the request but I'm not familiar with the particular item. And because the creed picture is blurry, I can't see or read it well enough to make an accurate opinion.

I will say that the seller is VERY wrong in describing it as "vintage" as it's not even close to 20 years old and in the item specifics, she calls it "Coach Sonoma." (I know ebay has some incorrect default options, but it's better for sellers to leave those boxes blank than to post inaccurate info.)

If you can get a crystal clear and legible picture of the creed from the seller, I'll give it another look.

Thanks so much, BB. I tried to message the seller but can't because I'm in Canada. As it turns out they won't ship outside of the US.

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

Comments: Is there enough info here to authenticate (or suggest a possible style)? If not, I'll take my own pics and request again when the bag is in hand. For the cheap price, I thought I'd take a chance. It looks like a 9168. "North South Compartment Bag." Thanks!!

Item: Coach black leather crossbody bags for women
Listing number: 154995629685
Seller and site where listed: Korova03 on Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2848974738...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

[BeenBurned]

Comments: Is there enough info here to authenticate (or suggest a possible style)? If not, I'll take my own pics and request again when the bag is in hand. For the cheap price, I thought I'd take a chance. It looks like a 9168. "North South Compartment Bag." Thanks!!

Item: Coach black leather crossbody bags for women
Listing number: 154995629685
Seller and site where listed: Korova03 on Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284897473881?nma=true&si=II5gf26cPX6eyuyKM0FNF9%2BPFcE%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

No, there's not enough to authenticate.

Even if the bag is authentic, the strap doesn't appear to be original to the bag because the grommets are silver, or look that way to me.

She doesn't even have measurements in that listing! Sheesh, don't sellers realize that they can get more money when they make the effort to do a bit of work? But then, these types of deals (if authentic) wouldn't happen.

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

No, there's not enough to authenticate.

Even if the bag is authentic, the strap doesn't appear to be original to the bag because the grommets are silver, or look that way to me.

She doesn't even have measurements in that listing! Sheesh, don't sellers realize that they can get more money when they make the effort to do a bit of work? But then, these types of deals (if authentic) wouldn't happen.

Thanks! When I get it, I'll take pics. She does have a ruler in one pic and it appears to be about 9.5 inches square. In my research online, I saw other bags 9168 which appeared to have brass buckles and silver color grommets. We shall see if it's a trick of the lighting or something odd.