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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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Good morning dear authenticators! A request to authenticate please. Thank you!!!

Item: Basic bag
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 7" height, 10 1/2 " width, 2" depth. Pardon the side-ways creed. I don't know why it comes out like that. thank you!

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Farlynn said:
Please authenticate:

FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
Item: Vintage Coach Brown Leather Whitney
Listing number: I don't know how to find it
Seller and site where listed: daisyandlace poshmark.com
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Brown-Leather-Whitney-5e7d0abca20dfc9dab304f18
Comments: attached a screenshot due to lack of listing number

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We can't authenticate without a clear photo of the serial number. I'm not seeing any obvious problems but we need that photo.
 
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Hello! Could someone please authenticate this bag? Thanks in advance!

Item: Lunchbox
Seller: c.kim
Site where listed: Mercari
Link:https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m34419351646/

Comments: The bag is listed as red but it is much darker than any red bag I currently have. Is it just a shade variation or does it have a different name?
 

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Hyacinth said:
In case you haven't already read all the links that BeenBurned posted from the Search for that seller's name, Lorac2015 , I'll post the one below specifically because it expands on my reasons for not authenticating items from that seller.

Not only has she posted multiple derogatory and obscene comments about tPF as well as me and other tPF members mostly on Private Facebook sites that have on occasion been opened to the public along with those disgusting posts, but she's also been reported to have engaged in actions against other tPF members that would have gotten her suspended from any legitimate selling site (such as Ebay) that cares about protecting their members not just from fakes but also from harassment or auction interference by other members.

Anyone who does that to anyone else just because of a site they belong to doesn't deserve ANY kind of approval, even if it's just confirmation of authenticity for one of their items. If someone wants to take pot shots at me, go right ahead, I consider the source and take it as a compliment. But trying to damage another seller's business for no valid reason, however twisted it might be, is disgusting and not to be tolerated, at least not by me.

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@Hyacinth Thank you for the education. I've read it all, plus what @BeenBurned shared, and experienced some of her negativity. Are you able share an image from the catalogue showing that the bag was not from the 1970's as she represented but "new" in 1998 (I think that was the year you mentioned) . It would be helpful.
 
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emilylia said:
@Hyacinth Thank you for the education. I've read it all, plus what @BeenBurned shared, and experienced some of her negativity. Are you able share an image from the catalogue showing that the bag was not from the 1970's as she represented but "new" in 1998 (I think that was the year you mentioned) . It would be helpful.
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The 1988 Summer catalog I referred to is an actual paper copy in my possession, and I don't have a way to scan it. The photo of a catalog page that SHE posted is also from the late 1980s BECAUSE COACH DIDN'T EVEN USE 100 PERCENT COLOR PHOTOS THROUGHOUT THEIR CATALOGS UNTIL AFTER 1983. Catalog images before that were hand-drawn, or black-and-white photos, never color. All "catalogs" in the 1970s were simply basic photos without any pricing information like this one from a 7-page 1979 'catalog" - a far cry from the highly professional example she used in her listing from a circa 1988 catalog that included full descriptions, measurements, color choices and prices. Ask her where she got that photo.
Click on the thumbnail to open, I have more pages from that 1979 "catalog" if you want to see them, but they all look pretty much like the first one and none of them include a Collegiate Bag:


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The Collegiate Bag went into production in Spring or Summer 1988 and had apparently already been discontinued by the Spring 1989 catalog. It was brought back briefly in 1993 and then disappeared for good. If anyone here has photos from that period of that style in a catalog, the're welcome to post them.

Now since you're questioning MY knowledge, experience, and 15 years of authenticating here at tPF and also at Ebay, what are you doing to question HERS? Where is her proof that it's a 1970s bag? Where are her 1970s catalog photos showing that style?

And what about the other problems I've already mentioned? What's more important, her being unable to figure out when an item was made? Or the other SERIOUS problems I mentioned in my posts about her disgusting, unethical and just plain IMMORAL vendetta against other sellers just because they're tPF members? I want to emphasize several points - not only have those sellers NEVER done anything to hurt Lorac2015's business, but Lorac2015 has actually been contacting potential buyers on Poshmark who have Liked or commented on their items and has dropped strong hints if not downright accusations that the tPF members are untrusworthy and may be selling fakes, which is an outright LIE.

If that's the kind of person you want to deal with, that's your decision. I really hope that's not the case.
 
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Hyacinth said:
The 1988 Summer catalog I referred to is an actual paper copy in my possession, and I don't have a way to scan it. The photo of a catalog page that SHE posted is also from the late 1980s BECAUSE COACH DIDN'T EVEN USE 100 PERCENT COLOR PHOTOS THROUGHOUT THEIR CATALOGS UNTIL AFTER 1983. Catalog images before that were hand-drawn, or black-and-white photos, never color. All "catalogs" in the 1970s were simply basic photos without any pricing information like this one from a 7-page 1979 'catalog":
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The Collegiate Bag went into production in Spring or Summer 1988 and had apparently already been discontinued by the Spring 1989 catalog. It was brought back briefly in 1993 and then disappeared for good. If anyone here has photos from that period of that style in a catalog, the're welcome to post them.

Now since you're questioning MY knowledge, experience, and 15 years of authenticating here at tPF and also at Ebay, what are you doing to question HERS? Where is her proof that it's a 1970s bag? Where are her 1970s catalog photos showing that style?

And what about the other problems I've already mentioned? What's more important, her being unable to figure out when an item was made? Or the other SERIOUS problems I mentioned in my posts about her disgusting, unethical and just plain IMMORAL vendetta against other sellers just because they're tPF members? I want to emphasize several points - not only have those sellers NEVER done anything to hurt Lorac2015's business, but Lorac2-15 has actually been contacting potential buyers on Poshmark who have Liked or commented on their items and has dropped strong hints if not downright accusations that the tPF members are untrusworthy and may be selling fakes, which is an outright LIE.

If that's the kind of person you want to deal with, that's your decision.
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I am 100% NOT questioning your knowledge. I believe you completely. I have seen enough already. I wanted to be able to show that it was not a 1970 bag as she represented.

ETA: I don't want to deal with her. I asked about the catalog to share with PM. And I forgot to thank you.
 
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emilylia said:
I am 100% NOT questioning your knowledge. I believe you completely. I have seen enough already. I wanted to be able to show that it was not a 1970 bag as she represented.

ETA: I don't want to deal with her. I asked about the catalog to share with PM. And I forgot to thank you.
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That's not the only mistake she's made in basic Coach knowledge. I came across a Comment by her on a Posh listing where she's spouting some ridiculous misinformation about using "Coach" stamps on vintage bags compared to newer bags as proof that something's fake, but wherever she got her information, she either got it wrong from the source or she thoroughly messed it up in her head along the way. The stamp she's referring to didn't exist, it was a completely different stamp which we've mentioned here at tPF dozens of times that could be a potential red flag depending on the age of the bag and where it was made. I really hope no one is going to her for advice.

But as I said above, that's nothing compared to her attacks on this site and its members. She was actually a member once too, I don't know any details about why she left or whose decision it was.
 
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Dear authenticators, a request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: Legacy Hobo (?)
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 6 1/2" height, 8 1/2" width, 2 1/2" depth

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Jacynthe said:
Dear authenticators, a request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: Legacy Hobo (?)
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 6 1/2" height, 8 1/2" width, 2 1/2" depth

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I THINK it's genuine, but I wouldn't advise buying it to resell since if it's real, there's a mistake in the serial number. I'm seeing -9186 in the photos but the style number should be -9136.

There were quite a few variations and even some mistakes in those last days of the Dominican Republic plant. Hopefully this was one of them. The more of them I see, the more certain I am that there were as many mistakes and unusual serial fonts coming out of that plant as there were actual bags. :whut:
 
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Hyacinth said:
I THINK it's genuine, but I wouldn't advise buying it to resell since if it's real, there's a mistake in the serial number. I'm seeing -9186 in the photos but the style number should be -9136.

There were quite a few variations and even some mistakes in those last days of the Dominican Republic plant. Hopefully this was one of them.
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Thank you Hyacinth!!! Very interesting to know about this mistake.
ETA @Hyacinth ...it's not a mistake, it is 9136, it is my really bad photography :facepalm:
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