Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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Lake Effect said:
Please keep in mind, I am simply expressing devotion to glove tanned BT leather and I do like the style it would appear this bag is emulating. I am not an authenticator so please bear in mind, my comment was to offer info on my authentic Marketing Tote to the authenticators to aid if needed for them to determine what is going on. I defer to their opinions. Gladly.
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Of course. I never asked if it was authentic. I asked if anyone had seen a creed like this before. Thank you
 
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I have a marketing tote with different color leather on the interior which was referred to as "Frankenstein," but I have this nyc Stewardess with different colored piping. Was it common to see two different colors of leather used before the spectator bags? 20210525_183112.jpg20210525_183123.jpg20210525_183153.jpg20210525_183244.jpg20210525_182950.jpg
 
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Violet787878 said:
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Lake Effect said:
Please keep in mind, I am simply expressing devotion to glove tanned BT leather and I do like the style it would appear this bag is emulating. I am not an authenticator so please bear in mind, my comment was to offer info on my authentic Marketing Tote to the authenticators to aid if needed for them to determine what is going on. I defer to their opinions. Gladly.
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With the lighting evened out, it looks a lot less like a collection of pieces and a lot more like a unified whole. The colors of the main part all match except for the creed and pocket and that might just be due to the leather being from different skins or dye lots. But the creed is still odd, that's why I want @whateve to take a look when she gets back, unless anyone else has ever seen anything like it. It's an older style than what i'm used to seeing so any and all opinions will help. I don't have any experience with rehabbing either so details of pre-serial creeds aren't something I'm comfortable with. The quality looks good so if it's the same as other Marketing Totes then it's likely to be a version of one, a test bag or pilot bag or creed sample of some kind? I've never owned a Marketing Tote so I'm going to bow out of this discussion and wait for someone familiar with the style to figure it out.

More opinions are definitely welcome.
 
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Hyacinth said:
With the lighting evened out, it looks a lot less like a collection of pieces and a lot more like a unified whole. The colors of the main part all match except for the creed and pocket. But the creed is still odd, that's why I want @whateve to take a look when she gets back, unless anyone else has ever seen anything like it. It's an older style than what i'm used to seeing so any and all opinions will help. I don't have any experience with rehabbing either so details of pre-serial creeds aren't something I'm comfortable with either. The quality looks good so if it's the same as other Marketing Totes then it's likely to be a version of one, a test bag or pilot bag or creed sample of some kind?

More opinions are definitely welcome.
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Thanks. Were you able to look at that Stewardess bag I posted? I agree the different colored leather is strange. Thank you for your feedback.
 
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Violet787878 said:
Of course. I never asked if it was authentic. I asked if anyone had seen a creed like this before. Thank you
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If there had been another bag with the same kind of creed that was verified as genuine, there wouldn't be any need to worry if this one was authentic. We're trying to find out why it was made. It's a curiosity and a mystery and mystery bags are things we love to try and figure out.

And this IS the Authentication thread.
 
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Violet787878 said:
I have a marketing tote with different color leather on the interior which was referred to as "Frankenstein," but I have this nyc Stewardess with different colored piping. Was it common to see two different colors of leather used before the spectator bags? View attachment 5093023View attachment 5093024View attachment 5093025View attachment 5093026View attachment 5093027
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If you're not asking for an authentication, maybe you should ask over at the Vintage Chat thread in the main Coach forum. They're more familiar with details like that than we are here.
 
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Hyacinth said:
If there had been another bag with the same kind of creed that was verified as genuine, there wouldn't be any need to worry if this one was authentic. We're trying to find out why it was made. It's a curiosity and a mystery and mystery bags are things we love to try and figure out.

And this IS the Authentication thread.
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I'm having a hard time figuring out how to use this platform. I apologize
 
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Hyacinth said:
If there had been another bag with the same kind of creed that was verified as genuine, there wouldn't be any need to worry if this one was authentic. We're trying to find out why it was made. It's a curiosity and a mystery and mystery bags are things we love to try and figure out.

And this IS the Authentication thread.
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Good. I don't want to be a pain!!!!!
 
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Hyacinth said:
With the lighting evened out, it looks a lot less like a collection of pieces and a lot more like a unified whole. The colors of the main part all match except for the creed and pocket and that might just be due to the leather being from different skins or dye lots. But the creed is still odd, that's why I want @whateve to take a look when she gets back, unless anyone else has ever seen anything like it. It's an older style than what i'm used to seeing so any and all opinions will help. I don't have any experience with rehabbing either so details of pre-serial creeds aren't something I'm comfortable with. The quality looks good so if it's the same as other Marketing Totes then it's likely to be a version of one, a test bag or pilot bag or creed sample of some kind? I've never owned a Marketing Tote so I'm going to bow out of this discussion and wait for someone familiar with the style to figure it out.

More opinions are definitely welcome.
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My mind is drifting around the idea of a patch. They are used to mend or cover up a flaw. Or embellish or add. Other thought was that Coach was willing to use glue on serial numbers at one phase, I would guess to meet their production logistics. That’s all I got. Have not seen a patch creed in any photos or irl.
 
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Violet787878 said:
I'm having a hard time figuring out how to use this platform. I apologize
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It’s a lot to navigate. I lurked for months before I ever posted. If you go to the top of the page and tap Coach it will bring up 4 sub forums, of which this one is under Shopping and general interest threads. Tap on the sub forums to see all the existing threads.
 
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