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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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#61,051
Metgirl25 said:
Hi,

Would you please review this backpack I recently purchased from ThredUp? I thought it was authentic, but after doing research I’m not sure. Thank you.
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Your research did not mislead you, it's fake. The serial number is invalid. The plant code was never used for any US handbag plant and the date code for April 1996 is almost a full 2 years before that style was even introduced. Any kind of bags with a J plant code saying they were made in the US are fakes. The J plant code was only used for clothing items and then starting around 1999 was ONLY used by China.

Get your money back.
 
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#61,053
Hyacinth said:
Your research did not mislead you, it's fake. The serial number is invalid. The plant code was never used for any US handbag plant and the date code for April 1996 is almost a full 2 years before that style was even introduced. Any kind of bags with a J plant code saying they were made in the US are fakes. The J plant code was only used for clothing items and then starting around 1999 was ONLY used by China.

Get your money back.
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Thank you!!
 
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Hello,

Promised I would let you know about my correspondence with Shopgoodwill on the fake Winnie that we discussed on Sunday. Here is their answer:

Greetings,

Thank you for your recent order. For all Coach purses, we use Entrupy to verify the authenticity. This system will tell us if any counterfeit material was used in the making of an array of purses. Going forward, would you like to cancel this order?

Here is the auction ending price:

  • Product ID: 121566745
  • Number of Bids:16 (High Bidder: h******3)
  • Current Price:$176.00
  • Bid Increment:$1.00
  • Shipping Price:Estimate Shipping
  • Handling Price:$2.00
  • Seller: Goodwill of Greater Washington D.C.
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  • Ends In: Auction Ended
  • Ends On: 5/16/2021 5:37:00 PM Pacific Time

I am so glad I found this site about two years ago. Without this site, that could have been me. Entrupy appears to be in its beta form. It appears to be learning to authenticate but it is not there yet. The only way to make AI better is for an informed human to correct it.
 
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#61,062
bankermtg said:
Hello,

Promised I would let you know about my correspondence with Shopgoodwill on the fake Winnie that we discussed on Sunday. Here is their answer:

Greetings,

Thank you for your recent order. For all Coach purses, we use Entrupy to verify the authenticity. This system will tell us if any counterfeit material was used in the making of an array of purses. Going forward, would you like to cancel this order?

Here is the auction ending price:

  • Product ID: 121566745
  • Number of Bids:16 (High Bidder: h******3)
  • Current Price:$176.00
  • Bid Increment:$1.00
  • Shipping Price:Estimate Shipping
  • Handling Price:$2.00
  • Seller: Goodwill of Greater Washington D.C.
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  • Ends In: Auction Ended
  • Ends On: 5/16/2021 5:37:00 PM Pacific Time

I am so glad I found this site about two years ago. Without this site, that could have been me. Entrupy appears to be in its beta form. It appears to be learning to authenticate but it is not there yet. The only way to make AI better is for an informed human to correct it.
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Well said, our wonderful Authenticators are lifesavers. Over the years I've become an enthusiastic Coach Bag Rehabber but that would never have happened if the TPF Authenticators weren't available to tell me if the bags I've found were genuine - and some of them were not!
 
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#61,064
bankermtg said:
Hello,

Promised I would let you know about my correspondence with Shopgoodwill on the fake Winnie that we discussed on Sunday. Here is their answer:

Greetings,

Thank you for your recent order. For all Coach purses, we use Entrupy to verify the authenticity. This system will tell us if any counterfeit material was used in the making of an array of purses. Going forward, would you like to cancel this order?

Here is the auction ending price:

  • Product ID: 121566745
  • Number of Bids:16 (High Bidder: h******3)
  • Current Price:$176.00
  • Bid Increment:$1.00
  • Shipping Price:Estimate Shipping
  • Handling Price:$2.00
  • Seller: Goodwill of Greater Washington D.C.
    Viewcounter Pixel
  • Ends In: Auction Ended
  • Ends On: 5/16/2021 5:37:00 PM Pacific Time

I am so glad I found this site about two years ago. Without this site, that could have been me. Entrupy appears to be in its beta form. It appears to be learning to authenticate but it is not there yet. The only way to make AI better is for an informed human to correct it.
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But if they had an "informed human" they wouldn't need AI.
 
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#61,065
bankermtg said:
Hello,

Promised I would let you know about my correspondence with Shopgoodwill on the fake Winnie that we discussed on Sunday. Here is their answer:

Greetings,

Thank you for your recent order. For all Coach purses, we use Entrupy to verify the authenticity. This system will tell us if any counterfeit material was used in the making of an array of purses. Going forward, would you like to cancel this order?

Here is the auction ending price:

  • Product ID: 121566745
  • Number of Bids:16 (High Bidder: h******3)
  • Current Price:$176.00
  • Bid Increment:$1.00
  • Shipping Price:Estimate Shipping
  • Handling Price:$2.00
  • Seller: Goodwill of Greater Washington D.C.
    Viewcounter Pixel
  • Ends In: Auction Ended
  • Ends On: 5/16/2021 5:37:00 PM Pacific Time

I am so glad I found this site about two years ago. Without this site, that could have been me. Entrupy appears to be in its beta form. It appears to be learning to authenticate but it is not there yet. The only way to make AI better is for an informed human to correct it.
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It sounds like they are implying that entrupy only verifies counterfeit materials. What makes a material counterfeit? Any counterfeiter can buy leather and hardware. They could even buy them from the same suppliers that Coach uses. It isn't until they add logos and creeds that the item becomes counterfeit.
 
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