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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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Could you please authenticate? I have my doubts based on the creed wording and hyphens.

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Item: Vintage Coach Sonoma Bucket Bag 4907 Tan Pebbled Leather
Listing Number: 184584795064
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Seller: thriftygirlstx-2
 
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Coachella555 said:
Could you please authenticate? I have my doubts based on the creed wording and hyphens.

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Item: Vintage Coach Sonoma Bucket Bag 4907 Tan Pebbled Leather
Listing Number: 184584795064
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Seller: thriftygirlstx-2
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It's fine. The marks you refer to as hyphens are from the stamping mechanism. The numbers were on a wheel where they dialed the number and if the number wasn't perfectly centered, the over and understamps were from the tops and bottoms of the numbers above and below the intended number.

The bag was made in 1994 and the wording is correct for when it was made.
 
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Coachella555 said:
Could you please authenticate? I have my doubts based on the creed wording and hyphens.

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Vintage Coach Sonoma Bucket Bag 4907 Tan Pebbled Leather | eBay

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Item: Vintage Coach Sonoma Bucket Bag 4907 Tan Pebbled Leather
Listing Number: 184584795064
Ebay
Seller: thriftygirlstx-2
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Since you're new to tPF - WELCOME!

A good place to learn some basic information that many new members ask about such as creeds, serial numbers, production codes, that sort of thing, is right here in the Coach Shopping forums. Start at the "Pinned" subjects at the top of every Coach Shopping page with an index of topics and find the link for "Salearea Guides". You'll find some background information, six very useful AND accurate Guides with all kinds of information especially about classic and vintage Coach bags, and as a bonus, a copy of the Daria48 Fake Coach Serial Numbers List plus updates. Remember where it's posted because the Guides and List give anyone involved with buying or selling vintage Coach a great place to go for information.

If what you find there seems to contradict something you've read or heard someplace else, you can post a question in this thread or in the Answer To Authenticty Questions thread designed for that kind of question and in the same index section. This may sound a bit egotistical, but if you do find any such contradictions, assume that the Salearea Guides and Daria48 List are correct until we can analyze the contradiction. One of the Salearea Guides is specifically about the dangerous mistakes found in the vast majority of online "authenticity guides", see my Signature for my thoughts on them.

Click on the expanded link below to check out the Guides:

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
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BTW, those "hyphens" above and below the serial number digits are referred to here in these forums as "overstamping" lines just in case you come across the term and aren't sure what it means. They can be found in real OR fake Coaches but the authenticators here are very good at telling the difference.
 
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AnnaLilo said:
I saw a bag on ebay. The creed looked different what I have seen previously. Can we check the authenticity for this bag?

Item: Shoulder bag
Listing number: 154237099097
Seller and site where listed: sincerelytexas
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...Zip-Handbag-Purse-Black-J1K-969/154237099097?

Thank you very much!
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Oooooo, a new fake creed for my files! Thank you!

Darned right it's fake. Too-short AND fake style number, invalid plant code, fake hardware, "hanScraftedin U.S.A...", and probably more.

My guess would be made in Korea based on the inside and top zipper pulls. We've also seen them mistake an "E" for an "S" before on one creed with a logo that said COACH LEATHERWARS instead of LeatherwarE, unless that's a new release from the Star Wars universe I haven't heard about.

J1K-969_hanScrafted-USA-creed-poss Korea-f.jpg


ETA - Here's the same creed in a different fake with a missing or Photoshopped style number that we found back in 2013:

J1K_hanScraftedin creed-c.jpg

J1K_hanScraftedin creed.jpg

So, maybe a not-so-new creed. I guess "Hans" crafted more than one. :biggrin:
 
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Hyacinth said:
Oooooo, a new fake creed for my files! Thank you!

Darned right it's fake. Too-short AND fake style number, invalid plant code, fake hardware, "hanScraftedin U.S.A...", and probably more.

My guess would be made in Korea based on the inside and top zipper pulls. We've also seen them mistake an "E" for an "S" before on one creed with a logo that said COACH LEATHERWARS instead of LeatherwarE, unless that's a new release from the Star Wars universe I haven't heard about.

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ETA - Here's the same creed in a different fake with a missing or Photoshopped style number that we found back in 2013:

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So, maybe a not-so-new creed. I guess "Hans" crafted more than one. :biggrin:
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LOL! "Hans" were crafting the bag :lol:

Thank you @Hyacinth !
 
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AnnaLilo said:
I saw a bag on ebay. The creed looked different what I have seen previously. Can we check the authenticity for this bag?

Item: Shoulder bag
Listing number: 154237099097
Seller and site where listed: sincerelytexas
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...Zip-Handbag-Purse-Black-J1K-969/154237099097?

Thank you very much!
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Hyacinth said:
Oooooo, a new fake creed for my files! Thank you!

Darned right it's fake. Too-short AND fake style number, invalid plant code, fake hardware, "hanScraftedin U.S.A...", and probably more.

My guess would be made in Korea based on the inside and top zipper pulls. We've also seen them mistake an "E" for an "S" before on one creed with a logo that said COACH LEATHERWARS instead of LeatherwarE, unless that's a new release from the Star Wars universe I haven't heard about.

View attachment 4939961


ETA - Here's the same creed in a different fake with a missing or Photoshopped style number that we found back in 2013:

View attachment 4939965

View attachment 4939966

So, maybe a not-so-new creed. I guess "Hans" crafted more than one. :biggrin:
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I knew that serial number was familiar.

This is a post from November 19.

COACH Hall of Shame - Post Coach fakes here!

OMG! I'm hoping these listings are removed quickly but I'm posting this more as an example of how (either) ignorant or dumb sellers can be! Can someone really think it's okay to sell these? (She has all types of other labels cut from clothing and accessories.) seller weavnee...
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Good evening dear authenticators. A request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: 4148 Shoulder bag
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 9" height, 8" width, 3 1/4" depth. This one is making me concerned. The leather feels stiff and not like the dark colours I usually get. However, I have little experience with light colours. Was 'H' a US factory? A least I'll have a hangtag for a light coloured bag that is missing one!


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#56,594
Jacynthe said:
Good evening dear authenticators. A request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: 4148 Shoulder bag
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 9" height, 8" width, 3 1/4" depth. This one is making me concerned. The leather feels stiff and not like the dark colours I usually get. However, I have little experience with light colours. Was 'H' a US factory? A least I'll have a hangtag for a light coloured bag that is missing one!


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This bag is fine. H is a US plant but there are some bad (as in, obvious) H plant fakes but there are also some close fakes where the font and "H" are extremely close.

ETA: The following is an example of how close some of the fakes are.
K4H creeds_fake vs auth.png
 
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