Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[fitzopolds]

It may or may not be authentic but I've never seen a white or silver Coach plaque and the font is atrocioius! I'm convinced it's not authentic but I did recommend other opinions from @whateve and @Hyacinth

Here's a side by side comp.
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With that said, just because kimfuentes sold a couple of authentic bags around the same time as she sold that bag doesn't mean that all her items are authentic. (Do you have any idea how many sellers are "mixers?")

In this post, I showed a bunch of the fakes listed by kimfuentes.

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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I went through her sold listings and she sold 13 nyc or earlier bags around that time. I’ve never seen a fake pre creed bag and I personally don’t think they exist. Here’s an image of a bag with the exact suspender.

 

[BeenBurned]

I can't tell if it is off or not. Here is a picture of a metal tag with the cartouche.

How's this?

 

[houseof999]

Fakes may not have existed then but what is to prevent someone from making one now to look like it is very old.

For the sake of argument: none. It's very possible. There were inspired versions vintage Coach made and I can't say exactly what year but they didn't claim to be Coach. I have seen vintage bags that look like vintage Coach though.

 

[Texas KP]

It's called a Drawstring Sac and was made in the late 1980s. There were 2 sizes available at that time, the Medium is style number is 4015, the Large is style 4010 and they were part of Coach's Lightweight line, which should be mentioned if you're going to ask for rehabbing information since the leather is slightly different from the "classic" and heavier Coach vintage leathers.

Here's Coach's catalog pages from 1987. When measureing, the first number is considered the Length (side to side) and the second is the height. The seller's measurements are sort of in the middle. I'm just guessing based on the drawstring length but I think this is the Medium, but you may want to mesure it yourself. It's probably most accurate to use the measurement across the base to figure out which size it is.



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Thank you SO much Hyacinth, for both your expertise AND your time!!

 

[BeenBurned]

I went through her sold listings and she sold 13 nyc or earlier bags around that time. I’ve never seen a fake pre creed bag and I personally don’t think they exist. Here’s an image of a bag with the exact suspender.

Look at the stitching on the bag in question vs. the Pinterest bag you showed.


IMO, the font on the metal plaque looks less like the plaque Whateve posted and more like the font on the fake "Coach" neck ties I see frequently:

 

[Hyacinth]

It may or may not be authentic but I've never seen a white or silver Coach plaque and the font is atrocioius! I'm convinced it's not authentic but I did recommend other opinions from @whateve and @Hyacinth

Here's a side by side comp.
View attachment 4889679

With that said, just because kimfuentes sold a couple of authentic bags around the same time as she sold that bag doesn't mean that all her items are authentic. (Do you have any idea how many sellers are "mixers?")

In this post, I showed a bunch of the fakes listed by kimfuentes.

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

IMPORTANT READ-ME Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please. For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread. Please follow the following requests: Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this...

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There was more than one style of metal tag used by Coach before creeds came in. Here are 2 from SacsMagnifiques Guide to Vintage Coach hangtags and creeds, I think the first one is the same style and metal color as in the white bag:





I don't have enough experience with pre-creed bags to form an opinion, but the metal tag itself seems OK.

 

[Jacynthe]

Good afternoon authenticators! Request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: Legacy Trail Bag?
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: Dimensions are 5 1/2" height, 7 1/2" at top and 8" at bottom for width, 2 1/2" at top and 3 1/2" at bottom for depth

 

[houseof999]

I don't have enough experience with precreeds. Maybe @RL Bernstein can tell us more..Though I haven't seen her for a long time.

 

[Hyacinth]

Here'a another photo with a similar font from the SacsMagnifiques Guide:

 

[Hyacinth]

Good afternoon authenticators! Request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: Legacy Trail Bag?
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: Dimensions are 5 1/2" height, 7 1/2" at top and 8" at bottom for width, 2 1/2" at top and 3 1/2" at bottom for depth

This is yet another misnamed bag. It's not a Trail Bag, it's a Legacy Small Flap. And it's genuine.

 

[Jacynthe]

This yet another misnamed bag. It's not a Trail Bag, it's a Legacy Small Flap. And it's genuine.

Thank you very much Hyacinth, for your time and help and providing the correct name of the bag!!!

 

[jdal622]

Hi all!
My sister picked this one up from goodwill today. Apparently I missed it the other day. Lol
It's smooshed so it's hard to get dimensions but it's approximately 8Wx6H

 

[whateve]

For the sake of argument: none. It's very possible. There were inspired versions vintage Coach made and I can't say exactly what year but they didn't claim to be Coach. I have seen vintage bags that look like vintage Coach though.

Sometimes people will put in a Coach label on those generic bags.

 

[whateve]

How's this?
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Looks very different.

 

[whateve]

Look at the stitching on the bag in question vs. the Pinterest bag you showed.
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IMO, the font on the metal plaque looks less like the plaque Whateve posted and more like the font on the fake "Coach" neck ties I see frequently:
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I agree, I think the bag is very questionable.