Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[MedicMom]

I believe it's genuine, but hope you'll send a clearer photo of the creed and serial number if you buy it. The leather looks a bit tired too.

Thanks - will request a clearer photo and look more closely at the leather before I consider it.

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
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Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
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  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

Hello everyone, Would you please authenticate this bag? I am not familiar with the style either. https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-coach-brown-leather-shoulder-bag-5b60a519194dad0d14d1e66b

Also, I found a vintage Coach National Guard Money Clip and I am wondering if that is authentic. The seller has items from the 1960's with no markings. https://poshmark.com/listing/Vtg-19...her-Moneyclip-Wallet-5e7697d1abe1cec63b92516c

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello everyone, Would you please authenticate this bag? I am not familiar with the style either. https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-coach-brown-leather-shoulder-bag-5b60a519194dad0d14d1e66b

Also, I found a vintage Coach National Guard Money Clip and I am wondering if that is authentic. The seller has items from the 1960's with no markings. https://poshmark.com/listing/Vtg-19...her-Moneyclip-Wallet-5e7697d1abe1cec63b92516c

The bag is a genuine Mulberry Bag from the 1991-92 Carriage Classics line, style number 9899.

As for the money clip, I don't see anything on it that would identify it as a Coach. I don't even know why the seller thinks it is. There's NO way to authenticate it. Do you see any Coach marks on it? That seller has a number of items they're selling as Coach or Possibly Coach and don't have any Coach logos or marks. I would definitely use caution buying from " lmgriffiths " on Poshmark.

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

No, there are no

The bag is a genuine Mulberry Bag from the 1991-92 Carriage Classics line, style number 9899.

As for the money clip, I don't see anything on it that would identify it as a Coach. I don't even know why the seller thinks it is. There's NO way to authenticate it. Do you see any Coach marks on it?

No, I don't see anything. They also have a NYPD passport wallet & another wallet they claim Coach created and said to search "Water Buffalo 66" yet I found no connection between Coach & the items listed.

 

[Hyacinth]

No, there are no

No, I don't see anything. They also have a NYPD passport wallet & another wallet they claim Coach created and said to search "Water Buffalo 66" yet I found no connection between Coach & the items listed.

Yes, I saw those too. I've never seen that stamped water buffalo logo on any confirmed Coaches, and the few items that include a "water buffalo" branded box with the same stamping don't mention Coach anywhere on the box. Coach would have used their own boxes, NOT some other company's "water buffalo" packaging. Anything with that bull logo being listed as Coach or Possibly Coach is highly suspect. Even the leather grain isn't like the water buffalo leather Coach uses. Ebay would remove them as Keyword Spamming at the very least. Poshmark doesn't give a fig.

 

[VSOP]

Just so you know, it's from November 1997, not "made in Dec 1994 or 95" as described by the seller.

Thank you for your help!

 

[BeenBurned]

Also, I found a vintage Coach National Guard Money Clip and I am wondering if that is authentic. The seller has items from the 1960's with no markings. https://poshmark.com/listing/Vtg-19...her-Moneyclip-Wallet-5e7697d1abe1cec63b92516c

The bag is a genuine Mulberry Bag from the 1991-92 Carriage Classics line, style number 9899.

As for the money clip, I don't see anything on it that would identify it as a Coach. I don't even know why the seller thinks it is. There's NO way to authenticate it. Do you see any Coach marks on it? That seller has a number of items they're selling as Coach or Possibly Coach and don't have any Coach logos or marks. I would definitely use caution buying from " lmgriffiths " on Poshmark.

No, there are no

No, I don't see anything. They also have a NYPD passport wallet & another wallet they claim Coach created and said to search "Water Buffalo 66" yet I found no connection between Coach & the items listed.

lmgriffiths on Poshmark has some interesting items but some listings are misleading, including that National Guard item.

I agree that it doesn't appear to be Coach.

@Hyacinth - after reading your comments, I looked at lmgriffiths 's other items and I'm very curious about this one (already sold).

I don't think this one was made by Coach and if so, certainly not in the 50s or 60s! Notice the HAC logo in one of the pictures.

Vintage Coach 50's 60's Cosmetic Toiletry Dopp Kit

Shop lmgriffiths's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Rare Collector's Item. Vintage Coach Glove Tanned Cowhide Toiletry Dopp Cosmetic Kit from the 1950's 1960's. Approximately 8"L x 3 1/2"W x 3 1/2"H. As shown in the first photo, the...

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[Minchanka]

Could you please confirm the authenticity?

Seller: teddybear222

VTG 70’s Bonnie Cashin COACH Orange Red Leather Turnlock Crossbody Hip Bag | eBay

<p>VTG 70’s Bonnie Cashin COACH Orange Red Leather Shoulder flap turnlock Handbag. Condition is Pre-owned. There are a few small marks. The color looks more orangey red. Not a true red. Not a true orange. In between those two shades. 11 inches across</p><p>8” high</p><p>Adjustable strap...

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[BeenBurned]

Could you please confirm the authenticity?

Seller: teddybear222

VTG 70’s Bonnie Cashin COACH Orange Red Leather Turnlock Crossbody Hip Bag | eBay

<p>VTG 70’s Bonnie Cashin COACH Orange Red Leather Shoulder flap turnlock Handbag. Condition is Pre-owned. There are a few small marks. The color looks more orangey red. Not a true red. Not a true orange. In between those two shades. 11 inches across</p><p>8” high</p><p>Adjustable strap...

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It's authentic Coach but not Bonnie Cashin.

 

[Hyacinth]

lmgriffiths on Poshmark has some interesting items but some listings are misleading, including that National Guard item.

I agree that it doesn't appear to be Coach.

@Hyacinth - after reading your comments, I looked at lmgriffiths 's other items and I'm very curious about this one (already sold).

I don't think this one was made by Coach and if so, certainly not in the 50s or 60s! Notice the HAC logo in one of the pictures.

Vintage Coach 50's 60's Cosmetic Toiletry Dopp Kit

Shop lmgriffiths's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Rare Collector's Item. Vintage Coach Glove Tanned Cowhide Toiletry Dopp Cosmetic Kit from the 1950's 1960's. Approximately 8"L x 3 1/2"W x 3 1/2"H. As shown in the first photo, the...

poshmark.com

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Yep, I noticed that too. I'm going to dig through the pictures of older pre-handbag items from the Archive and see if there's anything similar, but I don't remember any other Carriage logos. And would Coach have useed vinyl linings for that type of toiletry case, especially while they were still owned by the Cahns?

ETA - I stand corrected on the Carriage logo. I don't know if or when it was stamped into the early Leatherware products but it was definitely used in their early advertising, check the Coach Screed site:

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Aaaaaand, I came across a new-to-me history of Coach that confirms Miami as the B plant and used mostly to make the Lightweights.

Coach Leatherware - Company Profile, Information, Business Description, History, Background Information on Coach Leatherware

History of Coach Leatherware

www.referenceforbusiness.com

@whateve, you might want to check out this link too if you don't have it already, it adds more information to what was already published on the Fundinguniverse site:

History of Coach, Inc. – FundingUniverse

Explore the history, profile and timeline of Coach, Inc.

www.fundinguniverse.com

 

[BeenBurned]

Look what I found. (Red boldface is mine)

https://www.sacsmagnifiques.com/throwback-thursday-tbt-early-vintage-coach-cosmetic-toiletry-dopp-kit/

From her blog:

Throwback Thursday TBT: Early Vintage Coach Cosmetic Toiletry Dopp Kit
DEBORAH BARROS

Continuing the TBT trend, this is another bag that I have ready to send to my friends at the Coach Archive in NYC. This is a very early toiletry kit… it is the same leather, binding, and lining of the 50’s suitcase that I previously sent to Jed Winokur. It’s a GORGEOUS piece of Coach history. It shows the early craftsmanship of Coach and has one of the very first tags that Coach used on their bags. I have seen a tag cut in the shape of a steer’s head… it seems to be have been made from the top portion of this tag. Which came first… steer head, steer hide, baseball? Who knows…it’s part of the legacy and mystery of the early Coach days! This kit is also interesting in that it has the first stagecoach logo. I haven’t seen that on a very early bag. It will be interesting to see what Jed has to say about this little beauty. I’ll update once he’s had a chance to look at it.

 

[Hyacinth]

Look what I found. (Red boldface is mine)

https://www.sacsmagnifiques.com/throwback-thursday-tbt-early-vintage-coach-cosmetic-toiletry-dopp-kit/

From her blog:

Throwback Thursday TBT: Early Vintage Coach Cosmetic Toiletry Dopp Kit
DEBORAH BARROS

Continuing the TBT trend, this is another bag that I have ready to send to my friends at the Coach Archive in NYC. This is a very early toiletry kit… it is the same leather, binding, and lining of the 50’s suitcase that I previously sent to Jed Winokur. It’s a GORGEOUS piece of Coach history. It shows the early craftsmanship of Coach and has one of the very first tags that Coach used on their bags. I have seen a tag cut in the shape of a steer’s head… it seems to be have been made from the top portion of this tag. Which came first… steer head, steer hide, baseball? Who knows…it’s part of the legacy and mystery of the early Coach days! This kit is also interesting in that it has the first stagecoach logo. I haven’t seen that on a very early bag. It will be interesting to see what Jed has to say about this little beauty. I’ll update once he’s had a chance to look at it.

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I found a similar style in one of those early 1960s ads too, it was called a Vagabond but I can't get a decent copy of the ad. It's also on the Coach Screed page. No close up though, or anything showing if it's the same style as the one Debi posted. The lining color looks the same but I can't tell if it's vinyl although it's possible. So the PM listing for that item is probably genuine. Scroll down the link to the Coach Screed from my previous post to the first line of photos and enlarge the one on the upper left corner. Or scroll down the actual Coach screed page just a bit to the early ads.

The "water buffalo"-branded items are another story.

 

[whateve]

Yep, I noticed that too. I'm going to dig through the pictures of older pre-handbag items from the Archive and see if there's anything similar, but I don't remember any other Carriage logos. And would Coach have useed vinyl linings for that type of toiletry case, especially while they were still owned by the Cahns?

ETA - I stand corrected on the Carriage logo. I don't know if or when it was stamped into the early Leatherware products but it was definitely used in their early advertising, check the Coach Screed site:

Redirect Notice

www.google.com

Aaaaaand, I came across a new-to-me history of Coach that confirms Miami as the B plant and used mostly to make the Lightweights.

Coach Leatherware - Company Profile, Information, Business Description, History, Background Information on Coach Leatherware

History of Coach Leatherware

www.referenceforbusiness.com

@whateve, you might want to check out this link too if you don't have it already, it adds more information to what was already published on the Fundinguniverse site:

History of Coach, Inc. – FundingUniverse

Explore the history, profile and timeline of Coach, Inc.

www.fundinguniverse.com

Thanks! I already had the bottom link but the other one is very interesting.

I'm very surprised about the horse and carriage logo. Why haven't we seen other items with it? It appears to have the same plastic binding as one of my Bonnie Cashin era bags. It has a brown zipper although older items we've seen usually have black or navy zippers. I've seen the glove tanned cowhide stamp on a Bonnie Cashin era wallet.

 

[Minchanka]

It's authentic Coach but not Bonnie Cashin.

Thanks, of course not Bonnie Cashin.

 

[Yrelle]

Ok, I can not for the life of me read this creed so I have no way of knowing if it is authentic, but you experts might be able to tell from other features so I’m giving it a shot.

Item: Convertible Clutch
seller: Sockmonkey13

Vintage COACH Convertible Clutch Red Two Tone Leather Shoulder Purse Bag USA | eBay

Find great deals for Vintage COACH Convertible Clutch Red Two Tone Leather Shoulder Purse Bag USA. Shop with confidence on eBay!

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