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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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Hi! I’m new to the vintage coach scene, and I’m worried I’ve made a few rookie mistakes. Can you please take a look at these bags to confirm if they are authentic? All were purchased on poshmark. I’d really appreciate your help!

Item: “Vintage Black Coach “9944”
Listing number:
Seller: _bluescloset
Link: https://posh.mk/tqbJGiJdk7
Comments: I’m thinking this bag is fake because it says “made in the United States” under the creed, but the serial number suggests it was made in 1995. I thought the origin was included in the second sentence of the creed if the bag was made after 1994. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Item: Coach Nottingham 9948
Listing number:
Seller: audreysfine
Link: https://posh.mk/Tty4xycek7
Comments: same concerns as the one above.

Item: Vintage Coach Willis Bag
Listing number:
Seller: teeeny
Link: https://posh.mk/xx9w1Vvek7
Comments: I’m concerned about this one because the serial number doesn’t have a hyphen
 
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#50,119
Czelesny said:
Hi! I’m new to the vintage coach scene, and I’m worried I’ve made a few rookie mistakes. Can you please take a look at these bags to confirm if they are authentic? All were purchased on poshmark. I’d really appreciate your help!

Item: “Vintage Black Coach “9944”
Listing number:
Seller: _bluescloset
Link: https://posh.mk/tqbJGiJdk7
Comments: I’m thinking this bag is fake because it says “made in the United States” under the creed, but the serial number suggests it was made in 1995. I thought the origin was included in the second sentence of the creed if the bag was made after 1994. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Item: Coach Nottingham 9948
Listing number:
Seller: audreysfine
Link: https://posh.mk/Tty4xycek7
Comments: same concerns as the one above.

Item: Vintage Coach Willis Bag
Listing number:
Seller: teeeny
Link: https://posh.mk/xx9w1Vvek7
Comments: I’m concerned about this one because the serial number doesn’t have a hyphen
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First and second are authentic. Third is fake. Coach transitioned to the new creed wording with origin in the body of the creed starting in 1994. The plants didn't all get the new stamp at the same time. There are a few made in 1996 creeds that still have the old style creed.
 
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whateve said:
First and second are authentic. Third is fake. Coach transitioned to the new creed wording with origin in the body of the creed starting in 1994. The plants didn't all get the new stamp at the same time. There are a few made in 1996 creeds that still have the old style creed.
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Thanks so much. Did you know the Willis bag was fake because the serial number doesn’t have a hyphen?
 
#50,121
Hi, please kindly authenticate the following:

Item: Nottingham/Canterbury bag
Seller: potato111 on Carousell SG
Link: https://sg.carousell.com/p/old-coach-vingtage-coach-bag-1013417454/
Comments: the pictures of the creed are below. It's to the side though. And there's no serial number to speak of. I don't know what to make of this so do let me know your thoughts on it. The dimensions look to be approx 11"x 9". Thank you.

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#50,122
Czelesny said:
Thanks so much. Did you know the Willis bag was fake because the serial number doesn’t have a hyphen?
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Not all serial numbers have the same details, don't ever judge one serial number based on one from a different bag, or made in a different plant, month and year. There are problems with the stamping itself in the Willis and it has nothing to do with the lack of a hyphen. Some genuine bags have missing hyphens, and a few have an extra one. The key is in knowing exactly which details a serial stamp from that precise month, year, plant and style is SUPPOSED to have and exactly what it's supposed to look like. That can only be done using a library of photos of all the hundreds of possiblities found in genuine bags for comparison. That's why authentication should be done only by people with that kind of resource,
 
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kistae said:
Hi, please kindly authenticate the following:

Item: Nottingham/Canterbury bag
Seller: potato111 on Carousell SG
Link: https://sg.carousell.com/p/old-coach-vingtage-coach-bag-1013417454/
Comments: the pictures of the creed are below. It's to the side though. And there's no serial number to speak of. I don't know what to make of this so do let me know your thoughts on it. The dimensions look to be approx 11"x 9". Thank you.

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I can't see any photos at all from the listing. What I CAN see is that there's no serial number which is a huge problem, and that the word that should be spelled "scrAtches" in the creed is actually spelled "SCRTCHES". The badly off-center creed is also a problem. We've seen other fakes being sold on the Carousell site, never buy anything there unless it's authenticated here first.

It's fake, I hope you didn't buy it.
 
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Hyacinth said:
I can't see any photos at all from the listing. What I CAN see is that there's no serial number which is a huge problem, and that the word that should be spelled "scrAtches" in the creed is actually spelled "SCRTCHES".

It's fake, I hope you didn't buy it.
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Hmm that's strange that the pics cannot be viewed. i'm not sure if it's blocked based on location because i get that on ebay.

And no worries I didn't buy it. I'm still waiting on two refunds because the seller insists that it must reach her first before she refunds me even though we both agreed they are fakes. And she also accused me of being a serial returner even though she has no right to say such a thing :sad: Thank you so much for the authentication @Hyacinth and appreciate your eagle eyed observation on the spelling.
 
#50,125
kistae said:
Hmm that's strange that the pics cannot be viewed. i'm not sure if it's blocked based on location because i get that on ebay.

And no worries I didn't buy it. I'm still waiting on two refunds because the seller insists that it must reach her first before she refunds me even though we both agreed they are fakes. And she also accused me of being a serial returner even though she has no right to say such a thing :sad: Thank you so much for the authentication @Hyacinth and appreciate your eagle eyed observation on the spelling.
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We've seen dozens of fakes with the "SCRTCHES" misspelling over the years so it's one of the first things we look for in vintage creeds. It's always fake, no exceptions.

And it's always better to authenticate BEFORE buying than after. Too bad that some sellers can't be bothered to do the same thing.
 
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Steph_86 said:
Item: Coach Purse
Seller: Jaimi Ostergar
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m14173580703/?ref=search_results

I'm not sure if his bag is fake or not. I haven't seen one without numbers on the creed. The seller doesn't seem to believe it's authentic either.
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Her description is an authenticity disclaimer of sorts, illegal and disallowed by Mercari (and every other site) although many sites don't act on reports.

The bag may be authentic but you'll need to request a picture of the white label/tag that's probably hidden inside an interior pocket. She may have to pull the pocket inside out to find and photograph it.
 
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BeenBurned said:
Her description is an authenticity disclaimer of sorts, illegal and disallowed by Mercari (and every other site) although many sites don't act on reports.

The bag may be authentic but you'll need to request a picture of the white label/tag that's probably hidden inside an interior pocket. She may have to pull the pocket inside out to find and photograph it.
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I was thinking her description went against Mercari policy.

Thank you for getting back to me quickly! I requested a picture of the label/tag.

I wonder what would make the bag feel "waxy"? Maybe something someone cleaned it with?
 
#50,129
Steph_86 said:
I was thinking her description went against Mercari policy.

Thank you for getting back to me quickly! I requested a picture of the label/tag.

I wonder what would make the bag feel "waxy"? Maybe something someone cleaned it with?
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I suspect it's the nature of the textured leather. I've read other complaints about it.
 
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