Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
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• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
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  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Sherriq13]

We don't use names to authenticate, or assume that the seller even knows the correct name. Neither should a buyer. The only thing we use are the style numbers.

good to know! That's why I came here for help.

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Mint. Vintage COACH City Bag Red Leather Flap Purse Cross-body Messenger Bag
Listing number: 202960846292
Seller:jj_4ltrove
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-Vintage-COACH-City-Bag-Red-Leather-Flap-Purse-Cross-body-Messenger-Bag-/202960846292?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=HXeVFR%2Bf3hhgtpn6qVCYF8WJ7vs%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc
Comments: I already bought it but it hasn't arrived yet to me. Thanks!

Genuine, from the early 1990s.

 

[whateve]

Item: Mint. Vintage COACH City Bag Red Leather Flap Purse Cross-body Messenger Bag
Listing number: 202960846292
Seller:jj_4ltrove
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-Vintage-COACH-City-Bag-Red-Leather-Flap-Purse-Cross-body-Messenger-Bag-/202960846292?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=HXeVFR%2Bf3hhgtpn6qVCYF8WJ7vs%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc
Comments: I already bought it but it hasn't arrived yet to me. Thanks!

It's fine. Obviously not a city bag. It's a dinky.

 

[pbnjam]

Genuine, from the early 1990s.

It's fine. Obviously not a city bag. It's a dinky.

Oh yay! Thank you Hyacinth and Whateve!

 

[Hyacinth]

We don't use names to authenticate, or assume that the seller even knows the correct name. Neither should a buyer. The only thing we use are the style numbers.

good to know! That's why I came here for help.

It's fine. Obviously not a city bag. It's a dinky.

Sherriq13
And right there is a good example of why we never put our trust in the name that a seller gives a bag in a listing, and neither should a buyer. Probably at least half the Coach sellers, including a few self-appointed "experts", haven't a clue about what the correct names of their items are.

 

[Roro]

Good evening! I fear I already know the answer to this authentication request. If Coach never made a bag like this in this color, they should have!

Vintage Coach Dark Green Leather Large Drawstring Shoulder Bag

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-Dark-Green-Leather-Large-Drawstring-Shoulder-Bag/193430461953

Seller: lmb6545

Item number: 193430461953

If this style number and creed patch are real, then I have learned nothing from years of reading here. Thank you in advance and please stay safe, all!

 

[Catbird9]

That's what I thought too, and that's why I am concerned that it's not a Coach. The original pictures didn't show the buckles or the inside of the bag, unfortunately because there's tons of ink marks in it too. The other 2 bags were good... I got them all a couple months ago, took one look at those ink stains and buckles that seemed from the wrong time, and just put it aside. I am doing home renovations, so I haven't had time to get to a project of this magnitude until now. Took a look at those buckles again though and thought they were all wrong for that old of a bag... If it's not the real deal, I still got 2 other bags at a good price, but I'll be kinda bumned all the same. And thank you for your response, btw! I appreciate it!

I don't think it is fake. The creed looks really good and all the other details you've shown look good. Do you have another classic shoulder bag you can compare it to, side by side? The buckles don't make sense. The original buckles wouldn't have worn out. I can't imagine any reason for changing them out.

I agree, the bag is genuine but the buckles were replaced. Maybe one of the rivets came off and the owner decided to change the buckles when she had it repaired (or the old buckle fell off and was lost when the rivet failed, so both buckles were replaced to match).

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

Good evening! I fear I already know the answer to this authentication request. If Coach never made a bag like this in this color, they should have!

Vintage Coach Dark Green Leather Large Drawstring Shoulder Bag

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-Dark-Green-Leather-Large-Drawstring-Shoulder-Bag/193430461953

Seller: lmb6545

Item number: 193430461953

If this style number and creed patch are real, then I have learned nothing from years of reading here. Thank you in advance and please stay safe, all!

Well that's a funky serial number.

 

[Crystalcoach]

I agree, the bag is genuine but the buckles were replaced. Maybe one of the rivets came off and the owner decided to change the buckles when she had it repaired (or the old buckle fell off and was lost when the rivet failed, so both buckles were replaced to match).

Thank you!

 

[whateve]

Good evening! I fear I already know the answer to this authentication request. If Coach never made a bag like this in this color, they should have!

Vintage Coach Dark Green Leather Large Drawstring Shoulder Bag

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-Dark-Green-Leather-Large-Drawstring-Shoulder-Bag/193430461953

Seller: lmb6545

Item number: 193430461953

If this style number and creed patch are real, then I have learned nothing from years of reading here. Thank you in advance and please stay safe, all!

I'm sorry, you're right. It's absolutely fake. You have learned well.

 

[whateve]

I agree, the bag is genuine but the buckles were replaced. Maybe one of the rivets came off and the owner decided to change the buckles when she had it repaired (or the old buckle fell off and was lost when the rivet failed, so both buckles were replaced to match).

Odd though that they sacrificed another Coach bag to get the buckles, or maybe they were from one of those sellers on ebay who tears bags apart to sell the parts. I would have just gotten generic buckles that looked close to the real ones.

 

[Roro]

I'm sorry, you're right. It's absolutely fake. You have learned well.

Thank you once again, whateve. Sad and glad at once!

 

[Narnanz]

Man....I need to stop buying...but could I have this Legacy Zip looked at please.
Link https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-LEGA...Hobo-Shoulder-Bag-Purse-Vintage-/324140678492
Seller chickleigh
Here is the creed picture I requested.

ETA She must have added them after I asked for them

 

[BeenBurned]

I don't know what is going on with that hardware. It doesn't belong on a classic shoulder bag, and it doesn't belong on a bag from that era. All I can conclude is that someone replaced the buckles with buckles from another bag.

I'd like other authenticators to look at it.

I don't think it is fake. The creed looks really good and all the other details you've shown look good. Do you have another classic shoulder bag you can compare it to, side by side? The buckles don't make sense. The original buckles wouldn't have worn out. I can't imagine any reason for changing them out.

I agree, the bag is genuine but the buckles were replaced. Maybe one of the rivets came off and the owner decided to change the buckles when she had it repaired (or the old buckle fell off and was lost when the rivet failed, so both buckles were replaced to match).

Odd though that they sacrificed another Coach bag to get the buckles, or maybe they were from one of those sellers on ebay who tears bags apart to sell the parts. I would have just gotten generic buckles that looked close to the real ones.

Do any of you recall seeing those types of buckles in gold? Even the fake bags with the buckles have always had silver hardware.

I also agree that the bag is fine but I'm not even sure that the hardware was from a genuine Coach bag.

 

[BeenBurned]

Man....I need to stop buying...but could I have this Legacy Zip looked at please.
Link https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-LEGA...Hobo-Shoulder-Bag-Purse-Vintage-/324140678492
Seller chickleigh
Here is the creed picture I requested.

ETA She must have added them after I asked for them
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Authentic.