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Am I being naughty.
Link https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...de-in-USA-Good-Condition-/233467438074?_ul=NZ
Seller jabstyles
Comments...is this a pocket purse?..I am still learning styles.

No, it looks like a Convertible Clutch 9635 from the measurements and from the fact that it doesn't look as if it has any kind of slip pocket on the outside back. The Pocket Purse is only 9x5x2 and a good way to remember it is that it has a full set of Pockets, inside, underflap and outside on the back, hence the name.

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Thank you so much for your help. Sorry about that the issues with my post format... I'm a first-time poster.

The bag is listed on poshmark here:
https://poshmark.com/listing/VINTAGE-COACH-EUC-GEOMETRIC-BAG-9043-5e40641921cd0ae7f7349754

Thank you again.

Thank you. I hope you weren't the one who bought it. Unfortunately Poshmark has an absolutely HORRIBLE record when it comes to removing and refunding money paid for fakes. Several, if not all, of the authenticators here are NOT fans of Poshmark!

Even 20 dollars is too much to pay for a counterfeit, especially from a site that doesn't respect their buyers' right to genuine items, not to mention US federal anti-counterfeiting laws. Please remember to ALWAYS have Poshmark items autheticated here before buying. ALL Coaches should be authenticated, but some sites are much more likely to be selling fakes than others, and much harder to get refunds from if it happens.
 
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No, it looks like a Convertible Clutch 9635 from the measurements and from the fact that it doesn't look as if it has any kind of slip pocket on the outside back. The Pocket Purse is only 9x5x2 and a good way to remember it is that it has a full set of Pockets, inside, underflap and outside on the back, hence the name.

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Thank you @Hyacinth ...I might have to let this one go...checked my bank balance after posting and got a shock. I really liked the colour.
Hmmm...wonder how I can wrangle it?
 
Dear Authenticators, I have received the following eBay bags and took the creed photos. They both feel authentic to me.
Although I had them authenticated here before, but the creed photo seller sent me was from a different bag. Hyacinth commented the serial # didn't match the bag style then. If you have time please take a look at the new creed photos, thanks.
Seller: jalt529
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143152327749
 

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Item lunchbox
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/133334528442
Seller: hamzsale-4
Comment: this font doesn't look right. Can you confirm please

That's always been a highly but closely-faked style, I got stuck with 2 of them, different serial numbers than this one, though. One was brown and the other periwinkle. But this one is just as fake. Unusual colors always need to be examined very closely.

The top handle is wrong, and has the same problem with proportions that fake Willis top handles often have. The the different layers should taper at the ends.There's a very slight downward curve at the sides of the outside pocket that doesn't appear in the genuine ones which are straight across. And as you noticed, the creed and serial number have some font problems, the "B" isn't quite right and the serifs, those extended horizontal parts on the ends of the vertical bars on the large "N" in "No" are much too big regardless of what plant they were supposed to have been made at.

Genuine 9991 top handle thumbnails, notice the tapering at the ends, especially how the center single-layer part gets narrower:
9991_fake-vs-REAL white top handle-b.jpg

9991_Lunch Box-m.jpg

here's the fake:
9991_FAKE-lt green_hamzsale-4-a.jpg

and the fake creed and serial
9991_FAKE-lt green_hamzsale-4_LG-b.jpg

LARGE creed pic, notice the "stitching" stamping at the top of the Coach logo:
9991_FAKE-lt green_hamzsale-4-LARGEST-d.jpg

GENUINE K9B- serial thumbnail:
1999_B-plant-US-9735_Rambler-special-CR.jpg
 
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Dear Authenticators, I have received the following eBay bags and took the creed photos. They both feel authentic to me.
Although I had them authenticated here before, but the creed photo seller sent me was from a different bag. Hyacinth commented the serial # didn't match the bag style then. If you have time please take a look at the new creed photos, thanks.
Seller: jalt529
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143152327749

Both are genuine, Small Flap Natural Grain and Small Bucket Zip. The creeds match the bags.
 
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Thank you. I hope you weren't the one who bought it. Unfortunately Poshmark has an absolutely HORRIBLE record when it comes to removing and refunding money paid for fakes. Several, if not all, of the authenticators here are NOT fans of Poshmark!

Even 20 dollars is too much to pay for a counterfeit, especially from a site that doesn't respect their buyers' right to genuine items, not to mention US federal anti-counterfeiting laws. Please remember to ALWAYS have Poshmark items autheticated here before buying. ALL Coaches should be authenticated, but some sites are much more likely to be selling fakes than others, and much harder to get refunds from if it happens.
I have had a couple of fakes, before I started having then authenticated, I have never had any issues returning or getting refunded from Poshmark. I always just say the bag is fake need to return.
 
I have had a couple of fakes, before I started having then authenticated, I have never had any issues returning or getting refunded from Poshmark. I always just say the bag is fake need to return.
You were lucky that the sellers were cooperative. If a seller insisted the bag was genuine, then good luck trying to get the money back at Poshmark. At eBay, I noticed eBay removed the listing if a bag was deemed fake by authenticators here. I don't even look at Poshmark anymore.
ETA. Mostly because Poshmark Canada has limited inventory.
 
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Item lunchbox
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/133334528442
Seller: hamzsale-4
Comment: this font doesn't look right. Can you confirm please

That's always been a highly but closely-faked style, I got stuck with 2 of them, different serial numbers than this one, though. One was brown and the other periwinkle. But this one is just as fake. Unusual colors always need to be examined very closely.

The top handle is wrong, and has the same problem with proportions that fake Willis top handles often have. The the different layers should taper at the ends.There's a very slight downward curve at the sides of the outside pocket that doesn't appear in the genuine ones which are straight across. And as you noticed, the creed and serial number have some font problems, the "B" isn't quite right and the serifs, those extended horizontal parts on the ends of the vertical bars on the large "N" in "No" are much too big regardless of what plant they were supposed to have been made at.

Genuine 9991 top handle thumbnails, notice the tapering at the ends, especially how the center single-layer part gets narrower:
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here's the fake:
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and the fake creed and serial
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LARGE creed pic, notice the "stitching" stamping at the top of the Coach logo:
View attachment 4666142

GENUINE K9B- serial thumbnail:
View attachment 4666143
I believe I reported that same bag on Feb. 8. It must have been relisted.
 
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