Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[whateve]

Going back about 2 years ago, when I was doing a lot of heavy browsing of listings, I remember seeing at least one, possibly two bags that were drawstrings with the reg# imprinted on the little tab. But I don’t recall any other details. If I ever see another listing, I’ll post it here!

I'm pretty sure I'd seen it before too but I guess I didn't save any pictures because i couldn't find any in my files.

 

[DL Harper]

Good afternoon!
Can you please authenticate this bag? Thank you.
Item name: ?
Link: none
Desc: Pebbled leather bag w/adjustable shoulder strap & stripe fabric lining. Not sure if lining is black or dark brown. Zip pocket where creed/serial is attached. Top zip closure.
Measures approx: 9.5" t x 10.25" w. Oval bottom measures approx 9"w x 4.25"d at the widest point.
Comment: Any info please - name, date, etc. Is beige the color name & lining color?

 

[DL Harper]

Good afternoon,
Can you please authenticate this bag? I haven't seen anything similar, so I'm thinking it might not be authentic. Thank you.
Item name: ?
Link: none
Desc: Dark brown smooth leather bag w/double handles & plain dark brown fabric lining. Zip pocket where creed/serial is attached. Open top w/magnetic strap closure. Metal feet on the bottom.
Measures approx: 11" t x 10" w x 3"d. Approx handle drop is 10".
Comment: Any info please - name, date, etc

 

[whateve]

Good afternoon!
Can you please authenticate this bag? Thank you.
Item name: ?
Link: none
Desc: Pebbled leather bag w/adjustable shoulder strap & stripe fabric lining. Not sure if lining is black or dark brown. Zip pocket where creed/serial is attached. Top zip closure.
Measures approx: 9.5" t x 10.25" w. Oval bottom measures approx 9"w x 4.25"d at the widest point.
Comment: Any info please - name, date, etc. Is beige the color name & lining color?

It's fine. It's a Sonoma small bucket zip natural grain, made in 1997. In 1997, this came in camel and wheat. I'm not sure which of those it is. The lining is black.

 

[BeenBurned]

Good afternoon,
Can you please authenticate this bag? I haven't seen anything similar, so I'm thinking it might not be authentic. Thank you.
Item name: ?
Link: none
Desc: Dark brown smooth leather bag w/double handles & plain dark brown fabric lining. Zip pocket where creed/serial is attached. Open top w/magnetic strap closure. Metal feet on the bottom.
Measures approx: 11" t x 10" w x 3"d. Approx handle drop is 10".
Comment: Any info please - name, date, etc

It's authentic from 2001.

 

[DL Harper]

It's authentic from 2001.

Thank you! Do you know the name of the bag?

 

[whateve]

Good afternoon,
Can you please authenticate this bag? I haven't seen anything similar, so I'm thinking it might not be authentic. Thank you.
Item name: ?
Link: none
Desc: Dark brown smooth leather bag w/double handles & plain dark brown fabric lining. Zip pocket where creed/serial is attached. Open top w/magnetic strap closure. Metal feet on the bottom.
Measures approx: 11" t x 10" w x 3"d. Approx handle drop is 10".
Comment: Any info please - name, date, etc

It's authentic. It's called Bonnie's Legacy bucket, made in 2001.

 

[DL Harper]

It's fine. It's a Sonoma small bucket zip natural grain, made in 1997. In 1997, this came in camel and wheat. I'm not sure which of those it is. The lining is black.

Thanks for your help!

 

[DL Harper]

It's authentic. It's called Bonnie's Legacy bucket, made in 2001.

Thanks to both of you - so much help!

 

[kithrobyn]

Item:
Coach Red Leather Flap Top Messenger Purse -7750
Listing number:
Seller: GoodWill Online
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/64633976
Comments: I thought I did this one before but when I did a search it didn't pull up so maybe it was a different red bag. If I have, please forgive me. Thanks in advance.

 

[whateve]

Item:
Coach Red Leather Flap Top Messenger Purse -7750
Listing number:
Seller: GoodWill Online
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/64633976
Comments: I thought I did this one before but when I did a search it didn't pull up so maybe it was a different red bag. If I have, please forgive me. Thanks in advance.

It's fine.

 

[kithrobyn]

It's fine.

Thank you

 

[Lucylu29]

Good afternoon ladies, I have some questions about a 1941 bag I found on eBay.

Item: Coach 59243 rogue 25 with tea rose light brown W25 x H19 x D14 cm unused F/S

Item number: 264234255855

Seller: kyoto-jky74

Link:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/264234255855
Comments: The listing claims this is a Rogue 25 and gives the measurements for a 25 but the creed has the style number for the regular size tea rose Rogue. Also the wording on the creed does not have the "...hug it, drape it... "phrasing. And there are only two letters in front of the style number. This seller does have an awful lot of newer Coach styles for sale, it kind of makes me wonder because they are a somewhat new seller with only 70 feedback. The seller is based in Japan so I'm curious to know if there is a problem with counterfeits coming out of Japan like other Asian countries?

 

[houseof999]

Good afternoon ladies, I have some questions about a 1941 bag I found on eBay.

Item: Coach 59243 rogue 25 with tea rose light brown W25 x H19 x D14 cm unused F/S

Item number: 264234255855

Seller: kyoto-jky74

Link:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/264234255855
Comments: The listing claims this is a Rogue 25 and gives the measurements for a 25 but the creed has the style number for the regular size tea rose Rogue. Also the wording on the creed does not have the "...hug it, drape it... "phrasing. And there are only two letters in front of the style number. This seller does have an awful lot of newer Coach styles for sale, it kind of makes me wonder because they are a somewhat new seller with only 70 feedback. The seller is based in Japan so I'm curious to know if there is a problem with counterfeits coming out of Japan like other Asian countries?

It's fake. Other opinions welcome. I don't know where they are coming from but my guess is as good as yours.

 

[BeenBurned]

Good afternoon ladies, I have some questions about a 1941 bag I found on eBay.

Item: Coach 59243 rogue 25 with tea rose light brown W25 x H19 x D14 cm unused F/S

Item number: 264234255855

Seller: kyoto-jky74

Link:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/264234255855
Comments: The listing claims this is a Rogue 25 and gives the measurements for a 25 but the creed has the style number for the regular size tea rose Rogue. Also the wording on the creed does not have the "...hug it, drape it... "phrasing. And there are only two letters in front of the style number. This seller does have an awful lot of newer Coach styles for sale, it kind of makes me wonder because they are a somewhat new seller with only 70 feedback. The seller is based in Japan so I'm curious to know if there is a problem with counterfeits coming out of Japan like other Asian countries?

1. Rogues are highly faked and well faked.
2. The pictures in the listing aren't adequate for authentication purposes. In fact, they're useless!
3. Those shown, particularly the creed is too blurry (at least for my eyes) to read it and none of the important details are shown.
4. From what I've seen, the Rogues with two letters in the first part of the serial number weren't followed by actual style numbers (as seems to be the case with this item).
5. In the original Rogues (prior to Coach putting date and style serials, the letters were RG for Rogue and the second half wasn't the actual style number but was 20315 (or a similar number). THe listing in question doesn't appear to say "RG" in the prefix.

@houseof999 might have further comments but from what I see, I recommend against buying it!

In fact, of all the 52943 listings, current and completed, there are just 2 listings that I would feel comfortable about. NONE of the other sellers show enough pictures, clear pictures and many only show stock images.

ETA: Houseof999 confirmed what I thought!