Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Willis
Listing number: 323681273357
Seller: michaealgat_0
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Vintage-Leather-Willis-Station-Bag-Style-No-9927-BLACK-/323681273357
Comments: This already has bids, but the creed has a 3 for the plant code. Not interested in purchasing, still trying to learn.

It's okay. 3 is a valid Chinese factory code.

 

[Cyanide Rose]

It's okay. 3 is a valid Chinese factory code.

Wow, Thanks so much [emoji4]

 

[BeenBurned]

It's okay. 3 is a valid Chinese factory code.

Wow, Thanks so much [emoji4]

To avoid misunderstanding, it shouldn't be inferred that every bag with a "3" plant code is authentic though. I'm sure the fakers would put it on fakes too.

 

[Ceann56]

Could you please help me I’d these coach bags. Are they authentic? Thanks

 

[holiday123]

You are absolutely correct but when combined with other red flags including the "quality" of some of the fakes, my (personal) recommendation is to avoid it.

Thank you, that makes sense.

 

[holiday123]

I'm watching and still searching others posting of inside of this saddle 20... i think, if we could compare with the real one at the store, the difference will be shown on the colour of that bag...
No offense, i'm also currious to learning real and fake bag

I have interior pics my SA sent of the larger one, but not a clear pic of the creed. I can pm if you need.

 

[Hyacinth]

Could you please help me I’d these coach bags. Are they authentic? Thanks

Please don't re-post the same request if you don't get an answer right away. It clogs up the forum and causes too much confusion and clutter.

The authenticators here volunteer their time. They're NOT here 24 hours a day and they have other obligations and responsibilites. If you wamt to bring a previous post to their attention, use the REPLY button and ask for an authentication, but allow a reasonable amount of time for us to answer.

We also need the information requested in post number one of this thread including the website and URL or the name and location of the item's seller. Please include that information with any future authentications.

Both items seem to be genuine.

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Willis
Listing number: 323681273357
Seller: michaealgat_0
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Vintage-Leather-Willis-Station-Bag-Style-No-9927-BLACK-/323681273357
Comments: This already has bids, but the creed has a 3 for the plant code. Not interested in purchasing, still trying to learn.

Have you read the Salearea Guides in the thread that's pinned to the top of every index page in this Coach Shopping forum? Some of your questions have been covered in those Guides. One of the reasons I wrote them was to answer some of the most commonly-asked questions about creeds and serial numbers.

 

[Hyacinth]

Not sure how to word this but I thought removable things like tags, hang tags, care cards etc weren't used to authenticate? The tag is definitely wrong so something isn't right about the situation, but that could be more about the seller and not the bag. No offense meant just really curious.

None of the items you mentioned can ever prove that a Coach is genuine because as BeenBurned said, all of them can, and have been, copied very accurately by fakes makers. But if those add-on details are FAKE, then it's almost 100 percent certain that the item is fake too. Sellers usually don't add fake price tags or paperwork to genuine items.

"Using details to authenticate" works 2 ways. Although it takes examination of multiple details to say a Coach is genuine, it takes only one or two details to prove it's fake. And we DON'T use removable or changeable details like hangtags as indicators that something's fake unless it;s backed up by more solid proof. Price tags are usually considered as more of a permanent item because Coach makes them very hard to remove unless you actually cut the plastic line holding them on. There may be a few exceptions when someone's been able to remove one without damaging it, but those are rare and we can usually spot situations like that in the photos.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi!Anyone could help me authenticate my bag?Bought it recently from online ig shop.
Item: Coach sutton hobo bag 38580

View attachment 4338821 Measurement:

• 12 1/2" (L) x 10 1/2" (H) x 3 1/2" (W)

Is this authentic?

Please post a link to the online IG shop.

 

[BeenBurned]

Could you please help me I’d these coach bags. Are they authentic? Thanks

Please post a link to the site where purchased.

 

[holiday123]

None of the items you mentioned can ever prove that a Coach is genuine because as BeenBurned said, all of them can, and have been, copied very accurately by fakes makers. But if those add-on details are FAKE, then it's almost 100 percent certain that the item is fake too. Sellers usually don't add fake price tags or paperwork to genuine items.

"Using details to authenticate" works 2 ways. Although it takes examination of multiple details to say a Coach is genuine, it takes only one or two details to prove it's fake. And we DON'T use removable or changeable details like hangtags as indicators that something's fake unless it;s backed up by more solid proof. Price tags are usually considered as more of a permanent item because Coach makes them very hard to remove unless you actually cut the plastic line holding them on. There may be a few exceptions when someone's been able to remove one without damaging it, but those are rare and we can usually spot situations like that in the photos.

OK thank you for the elucidation and the reminder to focus on the whole picture.
The tag I would not consider permanent, but a fake or flawed tag would definitely prompt me to ask for more details.

 

[whateve]

OK thank you for the elucidation and the reminder to focus on the whole picture.
The tag I would not consider permanent, but a fake or flawed tag would definitely prompt me to ask for more details.

But it was attached the way it would have been done in a factory. Most sellers don't have price tag attaching equipment. I wouldn't go near an item that had a Coach price tag attached in the way that one was. Why would anyone take an authentic item and attach a fake price tag? I understand why they might attach a fake hangtag, but I can't think of any reason for the price tag.

 

[Cyanide Rose]

Have you read the Salearea Guides in the thread that's pinned to the top of every index page in this Coach Shopping forum? Some of your questions have been covered in those Guides. One of the reasons I wrote them was to answer some of the most commonly-asked questions about creeds and serial numbers.

I have been there quite a few times. I couldn’t access all of the links. Unfortunately my memory isn’t the best, so I hope an occasional question or two about that information doesn’t offend anyone, if so my apologies.

 

[Hyacinth]

I have been there quite a few times. I couldn’t access all of the links. Unfortunately my memory isn’t the best, so I hope an occasional question or two about that information doesn’t offend anyone, if so my apologies.

No problem, as long as you know where to look. And don't worry too much about links, many sites "lose" older links along the way. There's a saying that the internet is forever but that isn't the case at all.

If there's something you want to look into but the link is dead, let us know and we may have an alternate. Almost all of the inks at Ebay for the old Guides pages were removed almost a year ago, so links through Ebay for the Salearea Guides and the Daria48 Fake Coach Numbers list are gone, but I'm pretty sure we've posted alternates although they may not be as up to date. Many of the links from the original Salearea Guides which are the ones posted on Salearea's Facebook page are also dead if they link to any of the old Ebay Reviews or Guides pages.

It's better to use the revised Salearea Guides starting at Post 14, most of the links in those should be working. Those posts have also been updated since the older ones still at Facebook date back 7 or 8 years and some had to be corrected.