Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[CurrentObsesh]

It's authentic. This bag was made before 1994 so the number is unique and has no relation to the style number. Before 1994, Coach used unique serial numbers in their bags so no two bags would have the same serial number. In 1994, they started the current system with date and plant codes and style numbers in the creed. It's a Soho Bag #4082 from the early 90s.

The pictures are dark so it is hard to see the condition. I would ask the seller if anything was used on it. You don't want a bag that has been treated with shoe polish.

The bag came in today, and I very much like it! I did ask about what was used to treat it and he said mink oil, so I thought that was ok. It just needs some cleaning. Thank you for your help!

 

[CurrentObsesh]

Item: Coach Attache Purse , Black
Listing number: 223167271363
Seller: sewingcokenut
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Attache-Purse-Black-/223167271363?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=%2BSHevbhOGdqqw77BjjY%2FKM0dOjc%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

Comments:
Uh-oh...I bought this..Once I saw it in person, I am sure it's not authentic, but thought I better ask the experts before I complain and demand a refund. Prior to bidding, I checked the fake number list, the listing number, and the seller, and didn't see anything bad, so I thought it'd be ok. The tag doesn't read right because it says "This goods made of.." blah blah blah the whole thing is wrong. I couldn't see the creed clearly at the time on the site. I'll show the creed I have, and I took other pics too if you need to see the measurements and what not. I suspect you won't because I just noticed too, the hardware is silver in some parts, so whatever is on there is rubbing off.
ETA the title

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Coach Attache Purse , Black
Listing number: 223167271363
Seller: sewingcokenut
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Attache-Purse-Black-/223167271363?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=%2BSHevbhOGdqqw77BjjY%2FKM0dOjc%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

Comments:
Uh-oh...I bought this..Once I saw it in person, I am sure it's not authentic, but thought I better ask the experts before I complain and demand a refund. Prior to bidding, I checked the fake number list, the listing number, and the seller, and didn't see anything bad, so I thought it'd be ok. The tag doesn't read right because it says "This goods made of.." blah blah blah the whole thing is wrong. I couldn't see the creed clearly at the time on the site. I'll show the creed I have, and I took other pics too if you need to see the measurements and what not. I suspect you won't because I just noticed too, the hardware is silver in some parts, so whatever is on there is rubbing off.
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It's hard to see how you could read any of that creed and not see a problem. Every single line is gibberish. "natural cowhide america"? "genuine leather unique system"? When a creed has incorrect spellings and punctuation or especially if it sounds like it was generated by a really bad translation program, it's almost always fake. If there's no abbreviation "No" and it only has 5 or 6 numbers, it's a Korean fake. I'm looking at the listing and have no trouble reading the creed on my laptop.

I'm not sure which fake numbers list you're using but the Daria48 list that was posted on Ebay for the last 10 or 11 years and is still available on the Ebay UK site is pretty clear
https://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-NT-4903-and-more-/10000000002744619/g.html

and this has been part of it since the beginning:
"501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, or any other group of 3 numbers with a zero in the middle, followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea" - always counterfeit, no matter how real the leather feels.


Coach NEVER made handbags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 or 6 digits like this:
"xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers. Except for a few items with 6-digit serial numbers made and marked for the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games, Coach never used serial numbers with 6 digits or less."

 

[whateve]

The bag came in today, and I very much like it! I did ask about what was used to treat it and he said mink oil, so I thought that was ok. It just needs some cleaning. Thank you for your help!

you're welcome. I've used mink oil myself.

 

[whateve]

Hi, I am completely overwhelmed and in awe at all of the posts on here. I hope that I am posting correctly - I am not very tech savy. A local thrift has two vintage coach bags that came in and are almost identical. One is black and one is tan. What is bothering me is the straps have some type of coating on them. I have read through so many posts and have not been able to find this addressed elsewhere. I have never seen a Coach with this on the strap. Help.
Coach City hand bag 9790

What's on the edge of the strap is called edge coating. It's on newer bags. Edge coating can wear away or get breaks in it, so it isn't as durable as bags without it. This isn't a vintage bag. It is a city bag that was made in 2005. The leather is different from the leather used on vintage bags. It's authentic.

 

[CurrentObsesh]

It's hard to see how you could read any of that creed and not see a problem. Every single line is gibberish. "natural cowhide america"? "genuine leather unique system"? When a creed has incorrect spellings and punctuation or especially if it sounds like it was generated by a really bad translation program, it's almost always fake. If there's no abbreviation "No" and it only has 5 or 6 numbers, it's a Korean fake. I'm looking at the listing and have no trouble reading the creed on my laptop.

I'm not sure which fake numbers list you're using but the Daria48 list that was posted on Ebay for the last 10 or 11 years and is still available on the Ebay UK site is pretty clear
https://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-NT-4903-and-more-/10000000002744619/g.html

and this has been part of it since the beginning:
"501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, or any other group of 3 numbers with a zero in the middle, followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea" - always counterfeit, no matter how real the leather feels.


Coach NEVER made handbags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 or 6 digits like this:
"xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers. Except for a few items with 6-digit serial numbers made and marked for the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games, Coach never used serial numbers with 6 digits or less."

Thank you. At the time, I was on my cell phone, so it wasn't as clear, and I thought no one was bidding on it because they weren't very good pictures. I did a search on the page for 303 and all the 14s and didn't see it, but I do see that I missed that part of the group of 3 numbers with a zero in the middle. I completely did not see the omission of the No. I made sure I was looking at the same link you listed, and I am. Thank you again.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you. At the time, I was on my cell phone, so it wasn't as clear, and I thought no one was bidding on it because they weren't very good pictures. I did a search on the page for 303 and all the 14s and didn't see it, but I do see that I missed that part of the group of 3 numbers with a zero in the middle. I completely did not see the omission of the No. I made sure I was looking at the same link you listed, and I am. Thank you again.

Don't bother to search for all- number serial numbers, on genuine bags older than 1994 they're unique to each bag and the only ones that would show up anywhere other than the listing you're considering are commonly used fakes like 308-9875. Even using only 5 spaces, there were a lot of combinations available to the Korean fakes makers and even those short numbers are very seldom duplicated. If you have access to a full-feature computer or large tablet, it's a lot safer if you don't make bidding decisions based only what you can see on your cell phone's screen. And read the creed as if you were a high school teacher checking it for grammar, spelling and punctuation mistakes. Or maybe they don't even do that any more, which would be a shame.

 

[RFo]

What's on the edge of the strap is called edge coating. It's on newer bags. Edge coating can wear away or get breaks in it, so it isn't as durable as bags without it. This isn't a vintage bag. It is a city bag that was made in 2005. The leather is different from the leather used on vintage bags. It's authentic.

Wow, thank you so much!! I appreciate your knowledge and am amazed at how quick the response! Hope your day is wonderful!!!

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach Attache Purse , Black
Listing number: 223167271363
Seller: sewingcokenut
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Attache-Purse-Black-/223167271363?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=%2BSHevbhOGdqqw77BjjY%2FKM0dOjc%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

Comments:
Uh-oh...I bought this..Once I saw it in person, I am sure it's not authentic, but thought I better ask the experts before I complain and demand a refund. Prior to bidding, I checked the fake number list, the listing number, and the seller, and didn't see anything bad, so I thought it'd be ok. The tag doesn't read right because it says "This goods made of.." blah blah blah the whole thing is wrong. I couldn't see the creed clearly at the time on the site. I'll show the creed I have, and I took other pics too if you need to see the measurements and what not. I suspect you won't because I just noticed too, the hardware is silver in some parts, so whatever is on there is rubbing off.
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It's hard to see how you could read any of that creed and not see a problem. Every single line is gibberish. "natural cowhide america"? "genuine leather unique system"? When a creed has incorrect spellings and punctuation or especially if it sounds like it was generated by a really bad translation program, it's almost always fake. If there's no abbreviation "No" and it only has 5 or 6 numbers, it's a Korean fake. I'm looking at the listing and have no trouble reading the creed on my laptop.

I'm not sure which fake numbers list you're using but the Daria48 list that was posted on Ebay for the last 10 or 11 years and is still available on the Ebay UK site is pretty clear
https://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-NT-4903-and-more-/10000000002744619/g.html

and this has been part of it since the beginning:
"501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, or any other group of 3 numbers with a zero in the middle, followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea" - always counterfeit, no matter how real the leather feels.


Coach NEVER made handbags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 or 6 digits like this:
"xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers. Except for a few items with 6-digit serial numbers made and marked for the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games, Coach never used serial numbers with 6 digits or less."

Thank you. At the time, I was on my cell phone, so it wasn't as clear, and I thought no one was bidding on it because they weren't very good pictures. I did a search on the page for 303 and all the 14s and didn't see it, but I do see that I missed that part of the group of 3 numbers with a zero in the middle. I completely did not see the omission of the No. I made sure I was looking at the same link you listed, and I am. Thank you again.

DEMAND a full refund from sewingcokenut and if she gives you a hard time, open a SNAD dispute. If she wants the fake back, she'll have to pay for return shipping. (IMO, if she's smart, she'll just issue the refund and tell you to destroy and dispose of the bag. She can't resell it and I don't recommend that you (or she) donate it as it just ends up back in circulation.)

 

[Genalyn]

Good day Madam/Sir
Please help me to authenticate this wallet also the name of the wallet



There's a ykk zipper
Thank you in advance

 

[BeenBurned]

Good day Madam/Sir
Please help me to authenticate this wallet also the name of the wallet
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There's a ykk zipper
Thank you in advance

Please read post 1, page 1 for the posting format, info needed (seller, website) and pictures needed.

 

[Justawifeandmom]

I bought this coach edie bag on poshmark, but am very confused with the creed and serial number. The creed is not stamped, but printed on. The serial number is on a little white tag inside a zipper pocket, but I can't seem to find a tag with the made in sign..... Also the leather and lining feel very different than my other coaches, the lining almost nylon like. I've googled the serial number and only other edies come up from eBay or tradesy. Thanks for any help.

Note: The PurseForum requests that only members with an extensive knowledge of the brand and authenticating who have over 500 posts participate as authenticators in this AT thread. The moderators reserve the right to remove authentications that do not meet these requirements.


Please follow the following rules:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller:
  Link:
  Comments:

• If the bag in question is not on an auction site, please use the following:
  
  Item Name (if you know it):
  Link (if available):
  Then attach any photos (all authentication must include photos.)
  • Please be sure to include a clear readable photo of the creed stamp and serial number from inside the bag or accessory if there is one, and the bag's measurements when the bag is an older or vintage leather Coach.
    
  • Since mid-2014, Coach stopped putting serial numbers on creeds so in newer bags where the creeds don't have serial numbers, we also need to see pictures of the labels/tags from inside the bag. They are either both in the main open part sewn into the seam of the lining, or one might be buried deep inside the zipper pocket. One shows where made and the other has a serial number.
• Authenticators are not required to answer every request and it is their right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format.
• Please note that comments on price and condition are NOT permitted.
• Do NOT PM an authenticator or moderator to request authentication. Any and all such requests should be posted in this thread.
• Should one of your items be questioned in this thread, you are welcome to provide additional pictures or materials supporting its authenticity.
• Do not handle your disputes with other members in this thread but take your differences to Private Messages. Failure to do so can result in banning.
• Please utilize the "Quote" feature when responding directly to another post.

Disclaimer

All Authenticate This threads on tPF are meant to provide assistance to shoppers who are uncertain about the legitimacy and authenticity of designer goods. The evaluations posted by tPF's members are only opinions that stem from personal experiences as shoppers and collectors. They are not legally binding or professional authentications and are not to be treated as such.

For questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact the forum administration via the forum's contact form: http://forum.purseblog.com/sendmessage.php.[/QUOTE]

AUTHENTICATE This COACH

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread.

Note: The PurseForum requests that only members with an extensive knowledge of the brand and authenticating who have over 500 posts participate as authenticators in this AT thread. The moderators reserve the right to remove authentications that do not meet these requirements.


Please follow the following rules:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller:
  Link:
  Comments:

• If the bag in question is not on an auction site, please use the following:
  
  Item Name (if you know it):
  Link (if available):
  Then attach any photos (all authentication must include photos.)
  • Please be sure to include a clear readable photo of the creed stamp and serial number from inside the bag or accessory if there is one, and the bag's measurements when the bag is an older or vintage leather Coach.
    
  • Since mid-2014, Coach stopped putting serial numbers on creeds so in newer bags where the creeds don't have serial numbers, we also need to see pictures of the labels/tags from inside the bag. They are either both in the main open part sewn into the seam of the lining, or one might be buried deep inside the zipper pocket. One shows where made and the other has a serial number.
• Authenticators are not required to answer every request and it is their right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format.
• Please note that comments on price and condition are NOT permitted.
• Do NOT PM an authenticator or moderator to request authentication. Any and all such requests should be posted in this thread.
• Should one of your items be questioned in this thread, you are welcome to provide additional pictures or materials supporting its authenticity.
• Do not handle your disputes with other members in this thread but take your differences to Private Messages. Failure to do so can result in banning.
• Please utilize the "Quote" feature when responding directly to another post.

Disclaimer

All Authenticate This threads on tPF are meant to provide assistance to shoppers who are uncertain about the legitimacy and authenticity of designer goods. The evaluations posted by tPF's members are only opinions that stem from personal experiences as shoppers and collectors. They are not legally binding or professional authentications and are not to be treated as such.

For questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact the forum administration via the forum's contact form: http://forum.purseblog.com/sendmessage.php.

 

[Justawifeandmom]

AUTHENTICATE This COACH

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread.

Note: The PurseForum requests that only members with an extensive knowledge of the brand and authenticating who have over 500 posts participate as authenticators in this AT thread. The moderators reserve the right to remove authentications that do not meet these requirements.


Please follow the following rules:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller:
  Link:
  Comments:

• If the bag in question is not on an auction site, please use the following:
  
  Item Name (if you know it):
  Link (if available):
  Then attach any photos (all authentication must include photos.)
  • Please be sure to include a clear readable photo of the creed stamp and serial number from inside the bag or accessory if there is one, and the bag's measurements when the bag is an older or vintage leather Coach.
    
  • Since mid-2014, Coach stopped putting serial numbers on creeds so in newer bags where the creeds don't have serial numbers, we also need to see pictures of the labels/tags from inside the bag. They are either both in the main open part sewn into the seam of the lining, or one might be buried deep inside the zipper pocket. One shows where made and the other has a serial number.
• Authenticators are not required to answer every request and it is their right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format.
• Please note that comments on price and condition are NOT permitted.
• Do NOT PM an authenticator or moderator to request authentication. Any and all such requests should be posted in this thread.
• Should one of your items be questioned in this thread, you are welcome to provide additional pictures or materials supporting its authenticity.
• Do not handle your disputes with other members in this thread but take your differences to Private Messages. Failure to do so can result in banning.
• Please utilize the "Quote" feature when responding directly to another post.

Disclaimer

All Authenticate This threads on tPF are meant to provide assistance to shoppers who are uncertain about the legitimacy and authenticity of designer goods. The evaluations posted by tPF's members are only opinions that stem from personal experiences as shoppers and collectors. They are not legally binding or professional authentications and are not to be treated as such.

For questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact the forum administration via the forum's contact form: http://forum.purseblog.com/sendmessage.php.

Hi, I bought this coach edie bag from poshmark, and I'm just not 100 % sure if it's authentic. The leather and lining doesn't seem to be up to par. The lining is nylon like. The creed isn't stamped, it's printed on. The serial number is on a little white tag in a zipper pocket, which I've read that coach started doing in 2014, but I can't find a "made in" tag. I have googled the serial number and just a couple purses pop up in eBay and tradesy. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[India Null]

Is this authentic? Approximate measurements are 14” wide, 6” high. Thanks y’all!

 

[Hyacinth]

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It's a genuine Chelsea Pebbled Leather Satchel made in 2007.