Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
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    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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Hello ladies. Could you please verify this bag I sold on eBay? Buyer is claiming it's fake with no reference to any source of authentication. I would like to refer the buyer here before contacting with the link to this thread.

Item: pocket purse
Link: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/192346765225
There's nothing wrong with the bag. It's authentic.

Did she say why she thinks it's fake? Is she familiar with (pre-1994) random serial numbers?
 
There's nothing wrong with the bag. It's authentic.

Did she say why she thinks it's fake? Is she familiar with (pre-1994) random serial numbers?
Here you go.. I'm not good at paraphrasing.

Here's the message and two photos that the buyer attached of a bag that is not mine. I don't even own another bag in this exact style and color to accidentally send her a different bag! inCollage_20171126_004313447.jpgScreenshot_20171126-004415.jpgScreenshot_20171126-004407.jpg
 
Here you go.. I'm not good at paraphrasing.

Here's the message and two photos that the buyer attached of a bag that is not mine. I don't even own another bag in this exact style and color to accidentally send her a different bag! View attachment 3889958View attachment 3889959View attachment 3889960
I am so sorry. It sucks to be accused of selling a fake when you didn't do it!

Please refer the buyer here!

Note to buyers: PLEASE have items authenticated by someone who knows the brand BEFORE accusing sellers! It's a horrible feeling (as a seller) to read that type of message when you know you did nothing wrong.
 
I am so sorry. It sucks to be accused of selling a fake when you didn't do it!

Please refer the buyer here!

Note to buyers: PLEASE have items authenticated by someone who knows the brand BEFORE accusing sellers! It's a horrible feeling (as a seller) to read that type of message when you know you did nothing wrong.
Thank you so much!
 
Here you go.. I'm not good at paraphrasing.

Here's the message and two photos that the buyer attached of a bag that is not mine. I don't even own another bag in this exact style and color to accidentally send her a different bag! View attachment 3889958View attachment 3889959View attachment 3889960
I think that is your bag. You can see the sewing she is talking about in the front left corner of the flap for the first picture, and the right corner of the flap for the second picture. It looks the same in your pictures. The color can look different depending on lighting and cameras.

Still she is wrong. The bag was represented correctly, is authentic, and the sewing she is talking about is visible in your photos. Coach sewing wasn't perfect.
 
I think that is your bag. You can see the sewing she is talking about in the front right corner of the flap. It looks the same in your pictures. The color can look different depending on lighting and cameras.

Still she is wrong. The bag was represented correctly, is authentic, and the sewing she is talking about is visible in your photos. Coach sewing wasn't perfect.

Thank you! I think you are correct. I assumed the pics were of the back corners. But I see now they do match the stitches of the front flap.
 
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I think that is your bag. You can see the sewing she is talking about in the front left corner of the flap for the first picture, and the right corner of the flap for the second picture. It looks the same in your pictures. The color can look different depending on lighting and cameras.

Still she is wrong. The bag was represented correctly, is authentic, and the sewing she is talking about is visible in your photos. Coach sewing wasn't perfect.

I agree, there's absolutely NOTHING fake about it. Stitching three pieces of thick leather (one of which is just a thin strip of piping or binding) together AND doing it around a 90-degree corner often lead to less than exact positioning and stitching and all of us here have genuine Coaches to prove it. If the buyer doesn't believe that, she should try it sometime.

If the buyer had ever read the Salearea Guides, that "Coaches are always perfect" nonsense was one of the things I mentioned. Please pass these links on to her and strongly insist that she read them:

All Salearea Guides:
http://www.ebay.com/gsr/i.html?uid="salearea"&rmvSB=true

Coach Authenticity Guides - Facts and Myths
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Authenticity-Guides-Facts-and-Myths-/10000000062607882/g.html
"Let's look at some of the Rules that have caused the most problems....
THE "COACHES ARE ALWAYS PERFECT" RULE
Not in my lifetime or in yours. Perfection costs money, how much are you willing to spend?

Coach plant employees make plenty of mistakes, especially in new plants, some of the stitching at early Chinese plants was more like waves than lines. Older bags had plenty of mistakes too, especially in how the creeds and serial numbers were stamped. Sometimes even the wrong style or serial number was stamped, but any bag with that kind of mistake needs to be authenticated at Ebay's Shoes & Purses Forum before buying or selling..."


Most important is that the creed and serial number stamping and fonts of the bag in the listing are absolutely correct for the time period and plant - that bag is genuine. BTW, the stitching in those corners is actually pretty even, the original cutting and placement of the binding of the leather is also a bit wobbly. And yes, the bag in the listing is EXACTLY the same one the seller received.

Sellers can't be responsible when colors show up differently in their photos! A dozen factors affect how colors appear on a computer - cameras and computer monitors DON'T render or see colors the same as the human eye, and camera and computer settings can also make a big difference in the apparent colors. The type of lighting used can affect colors - not just the obvious difference between natural daylight and artificial lighting but also the KIND of artificial lighting. Incandescent, flourescent, halogen, CFL, photography lamps, phone cameras, etc, not to mention colors reflected from the background or the walls of the room where the photos are taken will ALL affect the color that eventually shows on the computer or phone screen. I NEVER expect colors of clothing or handbags in an Ebay listing to be the same in the photos as they look on my living room on a sunny morning and anyone who does is making a big mistake.


Houseof999, That buyer is wrong, period. And feel free to use what I've posted above if she tries to file a dispute with Ebay.
 
@houseof999 - Hopefully the buyer will be willing to come here. We promise not to beat her up but just want to help her to understand that she's wrong.

This is a longshot but I wonder if the "fake" accusation might be a way to get you to accept a return. Many buyers see "no return" policies and make up a reason for returning. If that's the case, perhaps she's not really questioning authenticity but for whatever reason, the bag may not work for her.

If that's the case, you might consider sending a message along the lines of one of the notes suggested in the Beenburned Helpful Templates thread. (Numbers 7 and 14 offer suggestions appropriate to this case.)
 
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Hi, hoping that someone can tell me if the following is authentic or not. Never seen a serial number like it and the research I did said to check it carefully and have authenticated.

Style: Casey (?)
Serial number: D8J-9923
Length: 7.5"
Height: 6.5"
Depth: 3"
 

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Hi, hoping that someone can tell me if the following is authentic or not. Never seen a serial number like it and the research I did said to check it carefully and have authenticated.

Style: Casey (?)
Serial number: D8J-9923
Length: 7.5"
Height: 6.5"
Depth: 3"

It's fake.
Did you buy it online? If so, is there a link to the listing?

If it wasn't an online purchase, even thrift stores and yard sales are disallowed from selling counterfeit items. THey're supposed to verify and confirm authenticity.
 
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