Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[whateve]

Hope I am doing this right, (thread posting ) I was told this was a Julia zippy, but I cannot find the pattern name or anything similar online. I am startwto believe this is a fake. There are no other stamps as well besides the one shown

It looks authentic. It isn't a Julia, it's an Audrey Op Art Swirl Zippy 45531. There should be a small brown "made in" tag inside. You can kind of see it in this listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Audr...295658?hash=item3f89a5f9ea:g:tlkAAOSwY~1Z5znW in the second to last picture.

 

[Love_pink28]

It looks authentic. It isn't a Julia, it's an Audrey Op Art Swirl Zippy 45531. There should be a small brown "made in" tag inside. You can kind of see it in this listing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Audr...295658?hash=item3f89a5f9ea:g:tlkAAOSwY~1Z5znW in the second to last picture.

Thank you so much! Yes I have rhe same tag, someone from an eBay group told me it being a Julia, hence why I probably couldn't find it. You saved me so much time!

 

[alexandria tale]

Good morning! So, this morning I saw this kelsey bag online. The person who owned it wondering if her bag is genuine and had been asking for opinion in the coach forum. Someone said that Turkey-made bag has slightly different detail than the other made-in bags. She said that the creed may stamped not as deep and the serial number may had no full stop after the word "No". I was wondering if that really true? Is this bag genuine? Thank you for your help!

 

[alexandria tale]

Also this one! I doubt this bag is genuine because the creed is slightly different with what I usually saw. The spacing between the letters is too narrow and the embossing is sloppy. The serial number has different font size between the production code and style code. The production code is slightly bigger. But I really confused because the pricetag seems genuine, though maybe the seller could swap it? So does this bag authentic or fake? Thanks again!

 

[Persimmoncat]

Hey everyone. I just can't get past a few things about this Willis that I purchased. I have been researching on all of the excellent links that were kindly posted. Can anyone put my mind at rest? The color difference inside the inner pocket and the weird leather (almost seems as if it is pressed with material) with little white shreds on the edges just freaks me out. Thanks for reading.

 

[BeenBurned]

Also this one! I doubt this bag is genuine because the creed is slightly different with what I usually saw. The spacing between the letters is too narrow and the embossing is sloppy. The serial number has different font size between the production code and style code. The production code is slightly bigger. But I really confused because the pricetag seems genuine, though maybe the seller could swap it? So does this bag authentic or fake? Thanks again!View attachment 3880081View attachment 3880082View attachment 3880083View attachment 3880084View attachment 3880085View attachment 3880087View attachment 3880088

The Swagger bags are extremely well-faked and very few listings have adequate pictures or enough of the right pictures to confirm authenticity, however from what I've found, I think this bag is okay.

There are some details that the counterfeiters don't get right and on your bag, I'm not seeing the mistakes.

I do see where the gold lettering and trim are a bit smudged and although I didn't see any other listings with the smudging, the font size and spacing are comparable to others.


Without another listing showing the white tag with production/serial number, I can't confirm that the different thickness in the characters is correct for that plant/factory, but I can say I've see it before so I don't consider it a red flag.

I agree with you that the tag is genuine and is a perfect match to one shown in another listing for the same bag and color.

Again, I believe that the bag you have is authentic.

 

[alexandria tale]

The Swagger bags are extremely well-faked and very few listings have adequate pictures or enough of the right pictures to confirm authenticity, however from what I've found, I think this bag is okay.

There are some details that the counterfeiters don't get right and on your bag, I'm not seeing the mistakes.

I do see where the gold lettering and trim are a bit smudged and although I didn't see any other listings with the smudging, the font size and spacing are comparable to others.
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Without another listing showing the white tag with production/serial number, I can't confirm that the different thickness in the characters is correct for that plant/factory, but I can say I've see it before so I don't consider it a red flag.

I agree with you that the tag is genuine and is a perfect match to one shown in another listing for the same bag and color.

Again, I believe that the bag you have is authentic.

I have comparison of the exact style and color. The production is only 1 month difference. The spacing on the creeds between letters are also wider and easier to read. What I mean by spacing between letters is like on this bag, the words "craftsmanship" has more spacing between "c-r-a-f-t-s-m-a-n-s-h-i-p" than the other bag. There is spacing between individual letter whereas on the previous bag, the letters seems attached to one another. Or maybe that's because of the smudging?



Ohh so there are some bags which have a difference in thickness and size? I never saw it (or at least not that different) so I thought that was weird. Here are another pictures of serial number label though not on the same style. I noticed that the "21" on the production code all have the same font style.

 

[BeenBurned]

Also this one! I doubt this bag is genuine because the creed is slightly different with what I usually saw. The spacing between the letters is too narrow and the embossing is sloppy. The serial number has different font size between the production code and style code. The production code is slightly bigger. But I really confused because the pricetag seems genuine, though maybe the seller could swap it? So does this bag authentic or fake? Thanks again!View attachment 3880081View attachment 3880082View attachment 3880083View attachment 3880084View attachment 3880085View attachment 3880087View attachment 3880088

The Swagger bags are extremely well-faked and very few listings have adequate pictures or enough of the right pictures to confirm authenticity, however from what I've found, I think this bag is okay.

There are some details that the counterfeiters don't get right and on your bag, I'm not seeing the mistakes.

I do see where the gold lettering and trim are a bit smudged and although I didn't see any other listings with the smudging, the font size and spacing are comparable to others.
View attachment 3880228

Without another listing showing the white tag with production/serial number, I can't confirm that the different thickness in the characters is correct for that plant/factory, but I can say I've see it before so I don't consider it a red flag.

I agree with you that the tag is genuine and is a perfect match to one shown in another listing for the same bag and color.

Again, I believe that the bag you have is authentic.

I have comparison of the exact style and color. The production is only 1 month difference. The spacing on the creeds between letters are also wider and easier to read. What I mean by spacing between letters is like on this bag, the words "craftsmanship" has more spacing between "c-r-a-f-t-s-m-a-n-s-h-i-p" than the other bag. There is spacing between individual letter whereas on the previous bag, the letters seems attached to one another. What do you think?View attachment 3880233View attachment 3880236View attachment 3880237View attachment 3880238View attachment 3880239View attachment 3880240

I do appreciate your concern but when comparing fonts and spacing, you have to compare apples to apples and in this case, your comparison isn't valid because it's comparing two DIFFERENT FACTORIES.

The bag you're questioning is from "21" plant and the second one you've posted was made in "80" plant. Although a month apart, having been made in different factories, they can't be compared.

I have attached side-by-sides to show the difference but again, unless comparing bags made in the same factory, the comparisons aren't valid.
If you can find a listing for a 2016 bag from the 21 plant, I'd be happy to look at it. But I just cannot find a seller who showed the white label (though I admit to not going through every listing.)

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[BeenBurned]

While I was posting, you were editing your post and you've proven my point. More important than comparing labels from the same style is comparing labels from the same plant. (One of the comps you posted was from 2015 though from the same 21 plant.)

 

[Hyacinth]

Hey everyone. I just can't get past a few things about this Willis that I purchased. I have been researching on all of the excellent links that were kindly posted. Can anyone put my mind at rest? The color difference inside the inner pocket and the weird leather (almost seems as if it is pressed with material) with little white shreds on the edges just freaks me out. Thanks for reading.

It's fine. Coach didn't care if the inside colors didn't match exactly, only the outside. The white edges were where the leather was shaved down to make it easier to sew. I don't see anything to be concerned about.

 

[BeenBurned]

Good morning! So, this morning I saw this kelsey bag online. The person who owned it wondering if her bag is genuine and had been asking for opinion in the coach forum. Someone said that Turkey-made bag has slightly different detail than the other made-in bags. She said that the creed may stamped not as deep and the serial number may had no full stop after the word "No". I was wondering if that really true? Is this bag genuine? Thank you for your help!View attachment 3880066View attachment 3880067View attachment 3880068View attachment 3880069View attachment 3880070

This one looks good to me.

 

[BeenBurned]

Ohh so there are some bags which have a difference in thickness and size? I never saw it (or at least not that different) so I thought that was weird. Here are another pictures of serial number label though not on the same style. I noticed that the "21" on the production code all have the same font style.

^^^This! ^^^^

 

[alexandria tale]

While I was posting, you were editing your post and you've proven my point. More important than comparing labels from the same style is comparing labels from the same plant. (One of the comps you posted was from 2015 though from the same 21 plant.)

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Alright, thank you very much for the explanation! If I find another one from the 21 factory I'll post it here. Oh, is it okay if it's the different style as long as it's made by the same factory or does it need to be the exact same style? Thank you for your help!

Once more, is there any authenticity card like this?

 

[BeenBurned]

Alright, thank you very much for the explanation! If I find another one from the 21 factory I'll post it here. Oh, is it okay if it's the different style as long as it's made by the same factory or does it need to be the exact same style? Thank you for your help!

Once more, is there any authenticity card like this?View attachment 3880281View attachment 3880282

Generally, it's the year and factory that match although for some unique styles, fonts and format can vary. So the tags from different styles but from the same factory ARE valid comps.

Now with your new pictures, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who will roll our eyes about what Coach is doing! (This has nothing to do with you!)

For years, we've been repeating (ad nauseum) that the most consistent thing about Coach is its inconsistency.

While with Coach, there are very few always or never "rules," yet again, Coach has blown some of our posts out of the window!

While Coach has had care cards for its items for years, this is the first time I've seen an "authenticity card." While I don't see anything that indicates that the card isn't from Coach, it's yet another change they've made that makes authentication so challenging!

ETA: Where did you buy the bag the card came with? If an online purchase, please post a link.

For future requests, please refer to post #1 for the information we want to see for requests.

 

[whateve]

Alright, thank you very much for the explanation! If I find another one from the 21 factory I'll post it here. Oh, is it okay if it's the different style as long as it's made by the same factory or does it need to be the exact same style? Thank you for your help!

Once more, is there any authenticity card like this?View attachment 3880281View attachment 3880282

Generally, it's the year and factory that match although for some unique styles, fonts and format can vary. So the tags from different styles but from the same factory ARE valid comps.

Now with your new pictures, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who will roll our eyes about what Coach is doing! (This has nothing to do with you!)

For years, we've been repeating (ad nauseum) that the most consistent thing about Coach is its inconsistency.

While with Coach, there are very few always or never "rules," yet again, Coach has blown some of our posts out of the window!

While Coach has had care cards for its items for years, this is the first time I've seen an "authenticity card." While I don't see anything that indicates that the card isn't from Coach, it's yet another change they've made that makes authentication so challenging!

ETA: Where did you buy the bag the card came with? If an online purchase, please post a link.

For future requests, please refer to post #1 for the information we want to see for requests.

Did you see the hours posted on the back of the card are in military time? I don't think they would do this for anything marketed in the US.