Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

I don't know much about this style but why is there a dot on the "made in" tag? This is a FP item, right? Do they make items in Turkey now?

I have no idea if it's authentic, but there's a post by GALAXYGRRL about a Rogue she bought last year that she said had a Made in Turkey tag.

Unfortunately she didn't post ANY pictures of any of the tags including the price tags, creed or "Made in" tags so it's no help at all. That's the only search that came up with Rogue and Turkey in the post. A pic of at least the price tag with the codes would have helped but the picture can't even be enlarged.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/western-embroidery-rogue-reveal.954322/#post-30751656

 

[Maduquesp]

Thank you!

I am nervous. I wanna know but i am afraid to go to my couch store to see if they can help me.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you!

I am nervous. I wanna know but i am afraid to go to my couch store to see if they can help me.

We NEVER recommend any attempt to have any Coach employee authenticate ANY bag! Not only is it a violation of company policy and says so right on their website, but at least 80 percent of the time, they're WRONG. Don't waste your time because you have a much better than 50-50 chance of getting a wrong answer.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you!

ETA: did this come in a bigger size since the name has the word Small in it?

There were several different Satchels but the differences were more because of shape rather than size

 

[houseof999]

There were several different Satchels but the differences were more because of shape rather than size

Thank you. Did the texture have a name? It makes me think of saffiano leather. They aren't the same, right?

 

[Maduquesp]

We NEVER recommend any attempt to have any Coach employee authenticate ANY bag! Not only is it a violation of company policy and says so right on their website, but at least 80 percent of the time, they're WRONG. Don't waste your time because you have a much better than 50-50 chance of getting a wrong answer.

Ok Ok i will not go there =(

 

[xiaojzhang]

Item: Vintage Authentic COACH Briefcase Leather Bag
Listing number: 131924954961
Seller: umbcnewbie
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Aut...dcec553&pid=100005&rk=4&rkt=6&sd=262966238073
Comments: Hello ladies, please kindly authenticate and ID if possible. I have a funny feeling about this bag, which I can't quite explain. Please kindly provide your expert opinion and insight. Thank you!

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you. Did the texture have a name? It makes me think of saffiano leather. They aren't the same, right?

No, they're not the same. Coach was probably "inspired" by LV's Epi leather although they're not the same texture.

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Vintage Authentic COACH Briefcase Leather Bag
Listing number: 131924954961
Seller: umbcnewbie
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Authentic-COACH-Briefcase-Leather-Bag/131924954961?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=40130&meid=896adffea88042ca850a9112cdcec553&pid=100005&rk=4&rkt=6&sd=262966238073
Comments: Hello ladies, please kindly authenticate and ID if possible. I have a funny feeling about this bag, which I can't quite explain. Please kindly provide your expert opinion and insight. Thank you!

I'm not sure what you're worried about. It's a 1997 remake of the 1989 Regency Brief

 

[xiaojzhang]

I'm not sure what you're worried about. It's a 1997 remake of the 1989 Regency Brief

Thank you Hyacinth. It's perhaps the back of the turnlock that I found to be aesthetically unpleasant. Just one of my silly moments.

 

[Lucylu29]

I bought the swingpack Hyacinth so kindly authenticated for me and now my daughter wants one.

Item: COACH Vintage Brown Leather Crossbody Side Pack Shoulder Bag

Seller: skibumble05

Item #: 292105394470

Link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/292105394470

Also this:

Item: Coach vintage black doctor bag purse crossbody leather MADE IN USA speedy

Seller: jgerbs

Item #: 112391488229

Link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/Coach-vintage...3D302293394012&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

Thank you so much!

 

[whateve]

I bought the swingpack Hyacinth so kindly authenticated for me and now my daughter wants one.

Item: COACH Vintage Brown Leather Crossbody Side Pack Shoulder Bag

Seller: skibumble05

Item #: 292105394470

Link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/292105394470

Also this:

Item: Coach vintage black doctor bag purse crossbody leather MADE IN USA speedy

Seller: jgerbs

Item #: 112391488229

Link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/Coach-vintage-black-doctor-bag-purse-crossbody-leather-MADE-IN-USA-speedy-/112391488229?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150519202348%26meid%3D0599c2dbec6449158467a7011b4631ff%26pid%3D100408%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D25%26sd%3D302293394012&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

Thank you so much!

The first one is fake. Normally we need a creed picture in order to authenticate but this one has enough wrong with it that I don't need to see one. The second one is authentic.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you Hyacinth. It's perhaps the back of the turnlock that I found to be aesthetically unpleasant. Just one of my silly moments.

That's the standard turnlock used on almost all briefcases starting in 1996.

I like it, it looks much more substantial than the handbag turnlocks.

 

[Lucylu29]

The first one is fake. Normally we need a creed picture in order to authenticate but this one has enough wrong with it that I don't need to see one. The second one is authentic.

Sorry, it didn't even dawn on me that the first one didn't include pictures of the creed. To my untrained eye it looked a lot like the first one I bought, so I thought it would be likely authentic too. But then that's what fakes do right?

Thank you so much for all you ladies do for us Coach addicts [emoji2]

 

[BeenBurned]

Some required pictures are missing as well as other information. Please refer to the first post on page 1 of the thread for the posting format and pictures needed.

I don't know much about this style but why is there a dot on the "made in" tag? This is a FP item, right? Do they make items in Turkey now?

WESTERNrivets rogue bag 25in suede
STYLE NO. 56623

The purse belong to me now. But this is the link https://www.ebay.com/itm/122470800863

I found it!

I am not very familiar with this line either, but here are the drill down pics for 56623 BP GIN Suede Western Rivets Rogue in Ginger

I have no idea if it's authentic, but there's a post by GALAXYGRRL about a Rogue she bought last year that she said had a Made in Turkey tag.

Unfortunately she didn't post ANY pictures of any of the tags including the price tags, creed or "Made in" tags so it's no help at all. That's the only search that came up with Rogue and Turkey in the post. A pic of at least the price tag with the codes would have helped but the picture can't even be enlarged.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/western-embroidery-rogue-reveal.954322/#post-30751656

*Sigh* This is getting more frustrating by the minute!

I hope we aren't getting to the point where bags have to be mailed to authenticators for physical inspections in order to be authenticated. (Etinceler will only do in-person authentications of the newer Chanel bags because the fakes are so close.)

The newer bags are getting so close and Coach is making so many changes to details that it's hard to keep up. Add to that the fact that most sellers don't show enough of the right pictures necessary for authentication, it's almost impossible to add to my photo library.

While I don't see any obvious problems in your bag, @Maduquesp, there isn't a single listing (current or completed) that shows the white tag with the production information. I'm baffled by the dot on the "made in Turkey" tag because (on an authentic bag) that dot usually indicates a MFF item. I don't believe your bag is fake but there isn't a single listing (that I've found so far) that can prove to me that Coach put MFF dots on boutique western rivets bags.