Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[BeenBurned]

What do you think of this one? I love the color of this! [emoji7]

Name: Ashley F20027 Dotted Op Art Satchel Sv/Purple
Listing #: 132088071911
Seller: purplestar626
Listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/132088071911

Thank you!

It's okay.

 

[maggiesze1]

It's okay.

Yay! Thank you!

 

[whateve]

The closest I can find is 92076 for which the stock photo shows a charm clip attached to the keyring. Whether it's the same item and whether Coach might have changed the prototype in production, I don't know.

I can't authenticate it but I don't see anything that indicates that it's fake.
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Thank you. There is one on ebay that has the clip but the back isn't shown: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-RARE-Co...985462?hash=item282ad04a76:g:zpAAAOSwRQlXeIwU
The one on Tradesy may have had the clip and it was removed.

 

[BeenBurned]

Please authenticate. Style number too, if you have it. I'm a little concerned that there is no logo on the charm, front or back.
https://www.tradesy.com/accessories/coach-coach-19967181/
seller name: Pinkchic on Tradesy
Item #: 19967181

The closest I can find is 92076 for which the stock photo shows a charm clip attached to the keyring. Whether it's the same item and whether Coach might have changed the prototype in production, I don't know.

I can't authenticate it but I don't see anything that indicates that it's fake.
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Thank you. There is one on ebay that has the clip but the back isn't shown: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-RARE-Co...985462?hash=item282ad04a76:g:zpAAAOSwRQlXeIwU
The one on Tradesy may have had the clip and it was removed.

TBH, I'm more comfortable with the ebay listing than the Tradesy one.

I think I see other differences between the Pinkchic Tradesy listing and the ebay listing. While it might be lighting, the Tradesy snowflake has more metal showing around the crystals than the ebay listing. The "Coach" name on the lozenge hang tag looks slightly different too:

 

[whateve]

TBH, I'm more comfortable with the ebay listing than the Tradesy one.

I think I see other differences between the Pinkchic Tradesy listing and the ebay listing. While it might be lighting, the Tradesy snowflake has more metal showing around the crystals than the ebay listing. The "Coach" name on the lozenge hang tag looks slightly different too:
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I noticed that too and decided it might be the angle. There are the same number of crystals and there are two different sizes of crystals.

 

[BeenBurned]

I noticed that too and decided it might be the angle. There are the same number of crystals and there are two different sizes of crystals.

I'm curious to see Hyacinth's opinion.

 

[Hyacinth]

I'm curious to see Hyacinth's opinion.

I've never seen the genuine version other than Coach's website photo so I'm not going to guess. "Questionable" is all I'm going to say.

 

[bLacK_cLoveR]

The other tag is probably hiding deep down inside the zipper pocket. You make have to pull out the fabric and turn the pocket inside out.

So far, the bag seems okay but, like Hyacinth, I never would have recommended this site.

-Thanks to both of you Beenburned and Hyacinth, will take note of your comments next time

 

[sparrows1]

Hi, I just received this, can someone take a look at it please?

Name: COACH # 19132 BLACK LEATHER WILLIS CROSSBODY
Seller ID: drmflower
Item: 302217243976
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/302217243976




Thanks!

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi, I just received this, can someone take a look at it please?

Name: COACH # 19132 BLACK LEATHER WILLIS CROSSBODY
Seller ID: drmflower
Item: 302217243976
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/302217243976


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Thanks!

While I don't see any obvious problems, I'd like to hear another opinion(s) regarding the differences between this bag and a 2011 bag of the same style.

Are the 2012 bags also considered to be 70th anniversary?

The bag in question was made in 2012 and while I think it was part of the 70th anniversary collection (not 20th as described by the seller), it has a different creed wording than those made in 2011, the actual year of the 70th anniversary. Additionally, the "No." vs. "No" differences from bags from the same plant have me concerned.

2012 bag in question: style 19132:

2011 bag style 19132:

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi, I just received this, can someone take a look at it please?

Name: COACH # 19132 BLACK LEATHER WILLIS CROSSBODY
Seller ID: drmflower
Item: 302217243976
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/302217243976


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Thanks!

It looks fine to me, but more opinions are always welcome.

 

[Hyacinth]

While I don't see any obvious problems, I'd like to hear another opinion(s) regarding the differences between this bag and a 2011 bag of the same style.

Are the 2012 bags also considered to be 70th anniversary?

The bag in question was made in 2012 and while I think it was part of the 70th anniversary collection (not 20th as described by the seller), it has a different creed wording than those made in 2011, the actual year of the 70th anniversary. Additionally, the "No." vs. "No" differences from bags from the same plant have me concerned.

2012 bag in question: style 19132:

2011 bag style 19132:

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No, only the 2011 bags are the Anniversary Editions. I just checked at least 6 different ones and the details match including the changes between the 2 years and the change in the "No" starting with the G month codes for 2012.

ETA - correction - I just found a 2012 - B month Willis that still has the shorter Anniversary creed. All the 2012 Willises with the longer standard creeds seem to be D month or newer.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Leather-Willis-Shoulder-Crossbody-Bag-19132-BONE-WHITE-PU3000/361836139067?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=41451&meid=97353fc1ebaf4458a173f0e1a54c0fab&pid=100005&rk=4&rkt=6&sd=282350422299

 

[BeenBurned]

No, only the 2011 bags are the Anniversary Editions.

Thanks. Then the seller has 2 errors. One is that it's not even an anniversary edition and the second is that had it been anniversary, it would have been 70th and not 20th!

 

[sparrows1]

Thanks for checking on it! I honestly didn't notice any of that in the seller's description, I'd only compared the pics to the berry Willis I already had.

 

[whateve]

While I don't see any obvious problems, I'd like to hear another opinion(s) regarding the differences between this bag and a 2011 bag of the same style.

Are the 2012 bags also considered to be 70th anniversary?

The bag in question was made in 2012 and while I think it was part of the 70th anniversary collection (not 20th as described by the seller), it has a different creed wording than those made in 2011, the actual year of the 70th anniversary. Additionally, the "No." vs. "No" differences from bags from the same plant have me concerned.

2012 bag in question: style 19132:

2011 bag style 19132:

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I agree it is fine. My 2012 Willis has a creed that matches the 2012 creed of this bag.