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BeenBurned said:
M is a plant code that (on authentic bags) has been used on bags made in the US, Costa Rica and China.
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Thanks BeenBurned, I had forgotten about that with the City Bag.
The other reason I thought it was fake as it seems so poorly made compared to other Coach bags I own (99% Sonomas).
The bad dye job was one, but also there are a few of those loose white threads that are coming out from under the seams.
Just feels cheaper somehow.....
 
#19,237
xiaojzhang said:
Happy new year everyone!

Item: Women's Vintage Leather Purse Handbag, Coach, Brown
Item Number: 262785595793
Seller: dmoon77781
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Womens-Vintage-Leather-Purse-Handbag-Coach-Brown/262785595793?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=38530&meid=f9d1ec9c5edf4cd8855519d00b889c64&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=262744142891
Comments: I came across this stewardess bag and the identification number seems off. "N" for the month code and didn't the "J" plant only make clothing?
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Exactly! Not only that, but the creed is stamped much too low on the pocket. The J plant code in "Made in the United States" creeds wasn't used for handbags,but in 2001 which is the date code in that serial number was being used by a Chinese plant for bags and had been since at least the middle of 2000. So both the plant and month codes in that bag are fake. Also, the stitching is too large, the hangtag is probably fake but definitely doesn't belong with a bag from 2001, and maybe it's just an effect of the lousy photos and lighting but the inside looks like the leather color is much too light for that shade of brown.

The seller's photos are just so incredibly bad that I wouldn't touch any of them. That apparent Duffle Sac in the pale green with the unreadable serial number is making me nervous too.

And the black bag with a K7S-4156 serial definitely IS fake, the S plant code was already being used by China as early as 1995 for travel and business bags ONLY. And that style number belongs ONLY to a Soho Belted Pouch - this one is missing the "belt" and does NOT have the correct long strap.
Please report this one too:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Womens-Vint...375337?hash=item3d2f3a9c69:g:o~cAAOSwo4pYZvhL

DO NOT BUY ANY NAME-BRAND BAGS FROM " DMOON77781 " !!!
 
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#19,238
Sonoma said:
Kindly authenticate this one too, thank you!

City Bag?
approx. 8”h x 11”w x 3.5”D
In my possession.
(Another bag my sister-in-law bought on eBay in 2015.)
Suspect it's a fake for many reasons starting with the creed...:sad:
Second to last picture shows one of a few seams where the dye/color was missed.
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The dye color wasn't "missed". Coach often shaved down the leather along the seams to make them easier to sew. A lot of classic and vintage bags have that almost-white strip right at the seams where the dyed layer had been cut away.
 
#19,239
Sonoma said:
Good Morning!
Kindly authenticate, thank you!
Bleeker?
approx. 10.25”h x 9.25”w x 4”D, strap drop 10.5”
In my possession.
(My sister-in-law bought this on eBay in 2015, I’ll be rehabbing it for her.)
View attachment 3563199 View attachment 3563200 View attachment 3563201 View attachment 3563202
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It looks ok and is a Bleeker Bucket, next time please try to include a close-up of the stamping on the male part of the magnetic snap in any bag that has one.
 
#19,240
xiaojzhang said:
Happy new year everyone!

Item: Women's Vintage Leather Purse Handbag, Coach, Brown
Item Number: 262785595793
Seller: dmoon77781
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Womens-Vintage-Leather-Purse-Handbag-Coach-Brown/262785595793?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=38530&meid=f9d1ec9c5edf4cd8855519d00b889c64&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=262744142891
Comments: I came across this stewardess bag and the identification number seems off. "N" for the month code and didn't the "J" plant only make clothing?
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Hyacinth said:
Exactly! Not only that, but the creed is stamped much too low on the pocket. The J plant code in "Made in the United States" creeds wasn't used for handbags,but in 2001 which is the date code in that serial number was being used by a Chinese plant for bags and had been since at least the middle of 2000. So both the plant and month codes in that bag are fake. Also, the stitching is too large, the hangtag is probably fake but definitely doesn't belong with a bag from 2001, and maybe it's just an effect of the lousy photos and lighting but the inside looks like the leather color is much too light for that shade of brown.

The seller's photos are just so incredibly bad that I wouldn't touch any of them. That apparent Duffle Sac in the pale green with the unreadable serial number is making me nervous too.

And the black bag with a K7S-4156 serial definitely IS fake, the S plant code was already being used by China as early as 1995 for travel and business bags ONLY. And that style number belongs ONLY to a Soho Belted Pouch - this one is missing the "belt" and does NOT have the correct long strap.
Please report this one too:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Womens-Vint...375337?hash=item3d2f3a9c69:g:o~cAAOSwo4pYZvhL

DO NOT BUY ANY NAME-BRAND BAGS FROM " DMOON77781 " !!!
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I enlarged the creed from dmoon77781's listing. I think this will be quite helpful. dmoon77781 fake creed enlarged.png
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Womans-Coach-Barrel-Bag-Lime-Green-Heavy-Soft-Leather/262785280734?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=38530&meid=d20be7a0d37f4f9e9816a6222be0bed7&pid=100011&rk=1&rkt=1&sd=262658720146
 
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BeenBurned said:
I enlarged the creed from dmoon77781's listing. I think this will be quite helpful. View attachment 3563569
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Womans-Coach-Barrel-Bag-Lime-Green-Heavy-Soft-Leather/262785280734?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=38530&meid=d20be7a0d37f4f9e9816a6222be0bed7&pid=100011&rk=1&rkt=1&sd=262658720146
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There's a weird stamp at the top of the pocket above the creed too. I have NO idea what it's supposed to be. The serial number is a mess but I don't think it's 00..., the first digit is too round for a zero. But the font of the creed itself is off too with those very round letters and then "states" squished almost flat.

ETA - not only does the hangtag look wrong, but the hardware colors are strange too, the buckle in this pic is really dark.
 
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Hyacinth said:
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There's a weird stamp at the top of the pocket above the creed too. I have NO idea what it's supposed to be. The serial number is a mess but I don't think it's 00..., the first digit is too round for a zero. But the font of the creed itself is off too with those very round letters and then "states" squished almost flat.

ETA - not only does the hangtag look wrong, but the hardware colors are strange too, the buckle in this pic is really dark.
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Could that be an indentation from a clip? I've seen some thrifties that have been hung by clips with similar indents.
 
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