Anne Heche

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Many of the southern states have damp soil which isn't conducive to having dry basements. The water table makes it impossible.

Also some areas have limestone bedrock under the layers of top soil. It's extra work and expense to dig into it if it isn't needed. Many houses in the US (especially the ones built in the last 30 years) are large enough where the basement isn't missed.
 
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Many of the southern states have damp soil which isn't conducive to having dry basements. The water table makes it impossible.

Also some areas have limestone bedrock under the layers of top soil. It's extra work and expense to dig into it if it isn't needed. Many houses in the US (especially the ones built in the last 30 years) are large enough where the basement isn't missed.
true, you might not miss the extra space (and most of the homes built around here in recent years seem to be at least 3-bedroom, 2 baths). but as I said, if your home is on a slab - with no basement or crawl space - it's more difficult for plumbing repairs
 
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why terrifying?
Oh I can see how a dark (maybe damp) unfinished basement can be terrifying.

Ours has regular height ceilings and is finished as are most in Toronto and we use it all the time.

To get back to Anne - I think it's wonderful she donated organs. It is really hard to sign that paper though, in this case it's our drivers license.
 
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why terrifying?
it was scary death stairs all the way down to a tiny room with a dirt floor. there was a crawlspace under the house you could kind of see into from the room, and the whole thing looked like a monster hangout. The water heater and heater for the house was down there, and that was all. I don't think my mom even wanted to go down there to see if it should be remodeled or anything. The first time I saw a real basement was in Colorado and it had a bed and a pool table and I was shocked. KInd of like this one.

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RIP Anne.
 
it was scary death stairs all the way down to a tiny room with a dirt floor. there was a crawlspace under the house you could kind of see into from the room, and the whole thing looked like a monster hangout. The water heater and heater for the house was down there, and that was all. I don't think my mom even wanted to go down there to see if it should be remodeled or anything. The first time I saw a real basement was in Colorado and it had a bed and a pool table and I was shocked. KInd of like this one.

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RIP Anne.
kids imaginations can be vivid....I recall when I was little my friend and I would walk down the next block and we were convinced there was a witch who sat in the window of one of the old houses
 
I have to ask this even it is ot: Why is it so that in a lot of areas in the US, especially in California, houses are just built with (thin materials and) wood? I always wondered how in movies there are easily holes punched in walls by the fists of some angry ones etc.
It is something my European mind can't fathom. We have our houses build from massive bricks and concrete and no one could drive a car though it - it would be stopped immediately. Even trucks usually would not destroy entire buildings.
Does this have to do something with seismic risks? Are these lighter buildings easier to restore when there are small earthquakes?
When I lived in Southern California, we hired my parents' long time electrician to add some outdoor lights to our courtyard and gate posts, etc. He was a giant of a man of Samoan and Mexican background. I'd check in on him as he was working and noticed a hole he'd made for the light fixture. As I squinted at it, I commented it looked like styrofoam. He replied it looks like it because it is! I just stared at him in shock and said, you mean to tell me my house is made of styrofoam???? He said, "I'm a big guy. If I ran along the courtyard with enough speed, I could probably run through your wall easily." :amazed: I was literally speechless. I felt like the Three Little Pigs had been the contractors.
 
I felt like the Three Little Pigs had been the contractors.
That's so funny, because here in Toronto (and most of Ontario) we're fixated on double-brick homes.

One theory is that people were raised on stories like the 'Three Little Pigs' and we want a house that can't be huffed and puffed and blown down.:lol:

But California has that fabulous weather, so it must make up for it.
 
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That's so funny, because here in Toronto (and most of Ontario) we're fixated on double-brick homes.

One theory is that people were raised on stories like the 'Three Little Pigs' and we want a house that can't be huffed and puffed and blown down.:lol:

But California has that fabulous weather, so it must make up for it.
I grew in Pennsylvania, hubby in Connecticut so we grew up in brick houses as well. The stucco we knew about, but the styrofoam underneath bothered us. DH said he felt like he was living in an old McDonald's hamburger container. The house was beautiful and we loved it, but that revelation really irritated me because I couldn't believe we'd paid that much for styrofoam!
 
I was listing to and old interview of Anne with Terry Gross. Her father was a evangelical christian choir master or church organist. He was also a closeted gay man. He couldn't hold down a job and kept moving the family around (four kids) from place to place to follow his lovers. He died from AIDS when she was 13.
If Anne was a troubled woman, it's no wonder.
 
TMZ reported today

9/3/2022 6:06 AM PT​

ANNE HECHE STUCK IN BURNING CAR FOR 45 MINUTES AFTER CRASH​


Warning: Please don't click on the link to TMZ website because it does still have the video of Anne Heche just before she was placed in the ambulance on the gurney and she sat up. I remember that some people found that video to be disturbing.


6464bdb0c9e2419fa10a475eadc66bc2_md.jpg


Anne Heche was not rescued immediately after her car slammed into an L.A. home and caught the house on fire -- not even close -- it took the fire dept. 45 minutes to rescue her.


New information has surfaced from the L.A. Fire Dept. ... a timeline of the horrendous crash that took the actress's life. According to the records, obtained by NBC4 LA, the blaze was so intense firefighters couldn't even get near Anne's car for at least 20 minutes ... once there, it took an additional 20 minutes to extricate the vehicle from the burning home.


An L.A. fire chief says the combination of smoke and fire made it nearly impossible to see or approach the car.

Firefighters arrived at 11:01 AM but apparently they were unsure if someone was in the car. 21 minutes later, it appears they confirmed someone was inside the vehicle.

Then, 3 minutes later, they found Anne inside the car. One of the responders said, "We have identified one patient, inaccessible at this time, he's pushed up against the floorboard!"

According to firefighters, Anne was not in the driver's seat ... a fire official said, "I will say that where the person was in the vehicle was not in the driver's seat, but on the floorboard of the passenger seat."

Just before 11:50 Anne was removed from her Mini Cooper.


As we reported, Anne lost consciousness shortly after the crash and never regained it. She died from her injuries days later. The cause of death was smoke inhalation and thermal injuries.
 
TMZ reported today

9/3/2022 6:06 AM PT​

ANNE HECHE STUCK IN BURNING CAR FOR 45 MINUTES AFTER CRASH​


Warning: Please don't click on the link to TMZ website because it does still have the video of Anne Heche just before she was placed in the ambulance on the gurney and she sat up. I remember that some people found that video to be disturbing.


6464bdb0c9e2419fa10a475eadc66bc2_md.jpg


Anne Heche was not rescued immediately after her car slammed into an L.A. home and caught the house on fire -- not even close -- it took the fire dept. 45 minutes to rescue her.


New information has surfaced from the L.A. Fire Dept. ... a timeline of the horrendous crash that took the actress's life. According to the records, obtained by NBC4 LA, the blaze was so intense firefighters couldn't even get near Anne's car for at least 20 minutes ... once there, it took an additional 20 minutes to extricate the vehicle from the burning home.


An L.A. fire chief says the combination of smoke and fire made it nearly impossible to see or approach the car.

Firefighters arrived at 11:01 AM but apparently they were unsure if someone was in the car. 21 minutes later, it appears they confirmed someone was inside the vehicle.

Then, 3 minutes later, they found Anne inside the car. One of the responders said, "We have identified one patient, inaccessible at this time, he's pushed up against the floorboard!"

According to firefighters, Anne was not in the driver's seat ... a fire official said, "I will say that where the person was in the vehicle was not in the driver's seat, but on the floorboard of the passenger seat."

Just before 11:50 Anne was removed from her Mini Cooper.


As we reported, Anne lost consciousness shortly after the crash and never regained it. She died from her injuries days later. The cause of death was smoke inhalation and thermal injuries.
not a good way to go
 
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