a coach bag with pattern misalignment

[ukonvasara]

First of all, sorry to post a thread here. i don't know if it is correct to start a new thread, but this item is in an app, i could not have its link, so i didn't post it in the "authenticate this coach" thread.

I came cross into a thread that someone posted this bag and pointed out it fake obviously， for the canvus pattern misalignment.
I noticed that the creed was not taken a picture. with all the evidence here, i could not tell if it is fake.
Is there a saying that pattern misalignment proves to be obviously fake？

 

[ukonvasara]

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"Is there a saying that pattern misalignment proves to be obviously fake？?

NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT

That particular style is SUPPOSED to have a correctly aligned C pattern, so in this case the misaligned pattern is accepted as proof that the bag is fake. We have said over and over in this forum AND in the Salearea Coach Guides posted here that some Coach styles have deliberately misaligned C patterns. The only places that say otherwise are inaccurate and useless "authenticity guides" or websites where incompetent and inexperienced posters hang around pretending to be experts.

From the Salearea Coach Guides that I first wrote and posted at Ebay more than 10 years ago and here at tPF more than 4 years ago:

"... This Guide isn't an Authenticity Guide and doesn't pretend to be, it's a warning about some of the incorrect information posted in so many other Guides. Any guide claiming to show you how to prove authenticity is selling snake oil. The Rules they include can vary, but the problems those so-called Rules create are very real and can be very serious.

Let's look at some of the Rules that have caused the most problems...

"... THE CENTERED C RULE or THE C'S ARE PERFECTLY STRAIGHT RULE
MOSTLY true, with plenty of exceptions. The center seam or a line down the front of a bag with Signature or Op Art C's should usually divide it into 2 halves that are mirror images of each other.
But:
Sometimes the back isn't correctly centered like style 10483 and the front is mistaken for the back.

Some C patterns on styles like some older Scribble Hobos don't follow the rule.

Some Messenger Bags like # 70077, Heritage Stripe Crossbody Messenger have NOTHING centered.

Most Signature Tartan Plaid bags and accessories made for the outlets in 2010 and 2011 don't follow the Rule, like #15229, 15485 and a bunch more.

Some older bags with Shearling Lamb trim from 2005 like 8K47, 8K48, have the C's set at a 45-degree angle, and so do some of the coated Canvas items sold at the outlets in and around 2011.

Many fabric patterns don't or won't follow the Rule, like almost all the Scarf Pattern items, and ALL the Optic Signature items where you couldn't line them up if you tried because the pattern is designed to make the C's look randomly scattered all over the fabric.

Many newer patterns and embossed leathers from 2011 don't seem to follow any sort of alignment rules either.

If you're not sure what these styles and patterns look like, Search for them on Ebay. Ask at the ATC thread if you're not sure."

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

forum.purseblog.com

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

forum.purseblog.com

and

SaleArea guides

PAGE 2 THE CENTERED C RULE or THE C'S ARE PERFECTLY STRAIGHT RULE MOSTLY true, with plenty of exceptions. The center seam or a line down the front of a bag with Signature or Op Art C's should usually divide it into 2 halves that are mirror images of each other. But: Sometimes the back isn't...

forum.purseblog.com

That example you popsted ALSO has an obviously fake front buckle with a dull instead of a bright finish and the stamped Coach logo on the buckle is wrong. The shape of the leather strip with the buckle and magnetic snap is also wrong, the strap is thin and cheap, AND the hangtag is clearly fake.

READ THE SALEAREA GUIDES.

 

[ukonvasara]

Bravo! I didn't expect such professional answer. learned a lot today. many thanks for your detail instructions！