Let me preface - I'm not doing this now! As many of you know, I plan and obsess my big purchases for 6 months before I pull the trigger! My lovely SA from Saks just called today. The new titanium J12s just arrived and were not even displayed yet. The 38mm plain automatic is $6300. I thought it was going to be $5600 or $5700. She says it is TDF! At Christmas time - should I get the new J12 or for that amount - should I go for a mid-size rolex with a MOP face? TIA!