Your new Coach: a mini-reveal thread!

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So, Ice Purple Cashin 22 buy now has arrived. The straps are rather delicate, which can be livable since it's a dainty (small) bag. I'm not sure about whether I would use as a crossbody. The interior lining leather is buttery soft and kind of my favorite thing about this bag, along with the lilac color. The website makes the ice purple look like it has a metallic sheen in the bag, but in real life, none, straight lilac. The exterior leather is smooth, but slightly plasticy feeling (and smelling), so that's a disappointment. It is supposed to be Original Glovetanned Leather.

The other issue is the interior glovetanned leather lining is badly :shocked::confused1: sewn to have excess leather flopping over on both wide inside walls, while the narrower walls are okay. Do you think Coach would resew this correctly if I took it to the retail store to ask for a repair, since the color is sold out?
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soupsoup2018 said:
So, Ice Purple Cashin 22 buy now has arrived. The straps are rather delicate, which can be livable since it's a dainty (small) bag. I'm not sure about whether I would use as a crossbody. The interior lining leather is buttery soft and kind of my favorite thing about this bag, along with the lilac color. The website makes the ice purple look like it has a metallic sheen in the bag, but in real life, none, straight lilac. The exterior leather is smooth, but slightly plasticy feeling (and smelling), so that's a disappointment. It is supposed to be Original Glovetanned Leather.

The other issue is the interior glovetanned leather lining is badly :shocked::confused1: sewn to have excess leather flopping over on both wide inside walls, while the narrower walls are okay. Do you think Coach would resew this correctly if I took it to the retail store to ask for a repair, since the color is sold out?
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"Original Glove-tanned Leather" has no legal or official definition whatsoever. It can mean anything Coach wants it to mean including leather layered with or covered with plastic to the extent that US law allows. "Full-grain leather" on the other hand, is or was a legal definition for all natural skins with no plastic at all and is what almost all vintage pre-China leather Coach bags were made from.

Carefully read the very long but very informative Coach Screed for an explanation of Coach leather descriptions and what has changed over the years, and why so many of the modern bags feel and smell like plastic:



ETA - From The Coach Screed:

"WHAT IS GLOVE-TANNED?" Classic style vs. Fast Fashion

So old Coach bags were made from full-grain leather --the hide's natural surface-- vat-dyed with oil-based aniline dyes? Yes. And then the leather was glove-tanned in a special secret technical process known only to and used only by Coach? No. Some of the later Coach promotional material does kind of make it sound that way, as do many of the current silly puff pieces you encounter constantly on the web. But the truth is quite different. Understanding exactly what "glove-tanned" means just became more crucial, too, since more recent Coach/Tapestry marketing has elected to stretch (we feel, maybe even pollute) this branding concept as "GENUINE GLOVETANNED LEATHER," all run together as one word, and now printed on the bottoms or backs of certain reissued/'archival' bags (see ex. below) that are now being made of mere 'genuine leather.' Some of us have even begun to suspect that this move indicates a hope that young buyers may become (even more) confused, mistaking "glovetanned" for some known benchmark of leather quality, and thus failing to notice the switch from good full-grain leather to the lower-quality splits found in 'genuine leather.' For the record, full-grain actually is a benchmark of leather quality. "Glove-tanned" is not, and was always a branding concept. This recent use of the new GLOVETANNED makes a look at the origins and meaning of glove leather worthwhile...."
 
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Hyacinth said:
"Original Glove-tanned Leather" has no legal or official definition whatsoever. It can mean anything Coach wants it to mean including leather layered with or covered with plastic to the extent that US law allows. "Full-grain leather" on the other hand, is or was a legal definition for all natural skins with no plastic at all and is what almost all vintage pre-China leather Coach bags were made from.

Carefully read the very long but very informative Coach Screed for an explanation of Coach leather descriptions and what has changed over the years, and why so many of the modern bags feel and smell like plastic:

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I have read through parts of it from TPF posters sharing the link. It definitely is very helpful and educational. I think your point that Coach being inconsistent is one of the disappointments. I have the mini 17 rogue from the spring 2021 collection in Original Glovetanned Leather they've now coined (vs the usual genuine GL), and that 17 at least smells and feels better than some of their other current items, even though it may not be full grain. Since this spring 2022 item was touted to also be Original Glovetanned Leather, I thought they would use similar leather. Their new made to order rogues coming out also have an option for OGL leather (with an upcharge for that type of leather), so Coach makes it sound like it is somehow special leather. And it may be on the MTO rogues it is for sure. Coach just isn't being consistent in the type of leather it uses for its new OGL. And maybe it varies by batch or color. Maybe lilac is uses more chemicals to make the color and that's the smell really. Although, the interior leather is nice and doesn't smell chemically and is lilac colored too. So, it really is the different leathers they use on different parts of the bag. At this point, I think I will take it bag by bag with Coach :amuse::annoyed:.
 
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