William and Catherine, Prince and Princess of Wales

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Oh lord I’m just watching the royal carol service and so far I think it’s weirdly amateurish.

I don’t understand why they didn’t re-record some of the performances when they hit so many wrong notes.

I mean that athlete reading the gospel and flubbing desperately needed another take. Then theyve got a Samantha Barks a famous dramatic mezzo singing the treble song ‘walking in the air’ and it doesn’t sound good pitched down at all.

Just seems a little cheap. Though Kate looked amazing in the dark red.

The setting is stunning too of course and the decorations and the choir but as annoyed as I get by kings college weird rearrangements of carols I think that this show isn’t a very good representation of British standards of music at all.
This is a carol service. That’s what happens at carol services. I certainly didn’t think Nicola Adams needed a retake.
I don’t need to see perfection, it certainly didn’t feel cheap to me. It seemed warm and personal.
 
This is a carol service. That’s what happens at carol services. I certainly didn’t think Nicola Adams needed a retake.
I don’t need to see perfection, it certainly didn’t feel cheap to me. It seemed warm and personal.
Well it’s personal taste but I don’t think they are doing any of them any favours by not getting their best take. Especially Sam Barks she’s a professional singer and she was having issues that could be resolved with direction and a retake.

My secondary point would be that the other broadcast carol services, like Kings, have a very high standard of music - it’s Westminster abbey not the village church.
 
Well it’s personal taste but I don’t think they are doing any of them any favours by not getting their best take. Especially Sam Barks she’s a professional singer and she was having issues that could be resolved with direction and a retake.

My secondary point would be that the other broadcast carol services, like Kings, have a very high standard of music - it’s Westminster abbey not the village church.
Of course, but I don’t think this needs to be like Kings. I go to Kings if I want a traditional carol service. This is different. I would rather something authentic in one take, rather than something perfect in multiple takes.
 
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Of course, but I don’t think this needs to be like Kings. I go to Kings if I want a traditional carol service. This is different. I would rather something authentic in one take, rather than something perfect in multiple takes.
I wouldn’t say authenticity and perfection are mutually exclusive in singing.

There are many professional singers who would love to be paid to rehearse and perform a solo and would be perfect at the first take and every take. Most classical singers exclusively perform live at a high standard but they aren’t perceived have the illustrious draw of over the hill celebs.

So yeah, I did think it came across as a bit cheap. I mean if they don’t sound good and you want people to tune in to see these celebs get them to do another take so they actually sound worth listening to.
 
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I wouldn’t say authenticity and perfection are mutually exclusive in singing.

There are many professional singers who would love to be paid to rehearse and perform a solo and would be perfect at the first take and every take. Most classical singers exclusively perform live at a high standard but they aren’t perceived have the illustrious draw of over the hill celebs.

So yeah, I did think it came across as a bit cheap. I mean if they don’t sound good and you want people to tune in to see these celebs get them to do another take so they actually sound worth listening to.
Not mutually exclusive, but if you're having someone do the same thing over and over then I do think it becomes just another take.

I don't believe any performers were paid as part of this - I could be wrong in that, though.
 
I particularly liked the hat and honestly hope the period of the fascinator is coming to a close. Some of them looked really stupid. I have always liked Camilla’s hat selections. I did like the symbolism of her wearing green as well.
I always thought that only the Brits could carry off those fascinators. But I do agree with you, Camilla can wear a hat and she can wear that jewellery.

What did I miss about the symbolism of wearing green?
 
Happy New Year to All!:drinkup:

Mr Knauf (right) has been recognised in the New Year Honours…

He has been made a Lieutenant of the Royal Victorian Order, which is conferred for extraordinary services to the monarch or members of the Royal Family. A lieutenant is the second of the five grades of membership and will allow Mr Knauf, who will receive his gong at either Buckingham Palace or Windsor Castle, to put the letters LVO after his name.

Mr Knauf said last night: ‘Working for the Prince and Princess of Wales was the honour of a lifetime.



 
I was wondering, is that thing about royals not wearing dark nails true? I wouldn’t mind the money and prestige and the praise but I do love a black nail….
Me too!! I just wish I could do them better at home.

I think I said this before, but I honestly don't believe there's protocol around this type of thing. Possibly unwritten about shoulders being covered in some instances and hats, but not nail polish.
 
I always thought that only the Brits could carry off those fascinators. But I do agree with you, Camilla can wear a hat and she can wear that jewellery.

What did I miss about the symbolism of wearing green?
I think fascinators are a very mixed bag. They’ve got to be exactly the right size to your head or the proportion is way off. If someone like Stephen Jones is fitting your fascinator it’ll look interesting and fit but they do not thrive off the rack. A hat is much easier to get right and they usually look much more sophisticated.

I usually love a hairband everyday but I don’t like a headband for formal events - it’s far too casual and can look like you are wearing a scaled up child’s outfit.
 
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