What to you think: it this a good cut ?

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#1
Hello!

I just bought this ring,
S1, colour H, cut good.
the diamond is 0.36 ct.

What irritates me is the reflection of the table, it is reflective like glass.
(2nd pic) Do you ever notice this on your stone(s)?
Also according to the angle I look at it, there are "darker parts". Reading up and down through this forum, I found many stones showing similar darker parts. Not inclusions, but sort of darker parts. I wished it would sparkle more. First I was not sure if they were due to the setting (sort of cathedral setting).
Now I think it is probably due to the cut. the goldsmith only offers good cuts (he buys in antwerpen and does not sell anything above H/S1/good cut).

But the reflective table is even more ... disturbing to me.
Please be honest and tell me what you think! Does this look like a nice stone to you or is there something wrong with the (good) cut?

You can tell I am a bit nervous and tense, not knowing what to expect ... next time I buy the stone at bluenile, as long as I can't afford rings at tiffany's, that's for sure!

TYIA!

PS: you can tell ...I really worked hard on taking the best pics possible!
 

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#4
IMHO, it is very hard to tell how well a stone is cut based on a picture. If you are unhappy with its cut, can you bring it back? Maybe you dislike the setting of the stone, a Tiffany-style setting would allow more light to shine thru it.
 
#6
I would take it to an appraiser, to confirm it's cut quality, but if you are not happy with it and it sounds like you are not, I would just return it if possible.

From the FIRST photo, it doesn't look too poorly cut, but I don't think the setting does much for the stone.
 
#7
ame said:
I would take it to an appraiser, to confirm it's cut quality, but if you are not happy with it and it sounds like you are not, I would just return it if possible.

From the FIRST photo, it doesn't look too poorly cut, but I don't think the setting does much for the stone.
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thank you ame!

the goldsmith said to confirm the quality the stone would have to be removed from the setting!

I will take it to the goldsmith and see what I can do- maybe return it.
 
#8
Since it is bezeled I would agree that it needs to be removed for a real evaluation. Not having any of the details or cert information certainly isn't helpful for identifying possible cut quality.

But if you aren't in love with it, see about returning it.
 
#9
ame said:
Since it is bezeled I would agree that it needs to be removed for a real evaluation. Not having any of the details or cert information certainly isn't helpful for identifying possible cut quality.

But if you aren't in love with it, see about returning it.
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I feel so stupid - I could have left it there. Everything would be fine. I have had it for a week now. Lets see ...:huh:

I would even be willing to pay for "the week".

Do you know how unusual it is to return jewelry?
 
#10
Don't feel "stupid." You are no such thing. You probably saw the ring, liked the style, found a good deal, and bought it. It was only after owning it that you realized you were not satisfyed with the piece.

It is not unusual to return jewelry. However, depending on the store, they may only give you a credit. Did you pay a substancial sum for the ring?
 
#11
AntiqueShopper said:
Don't feel "stupid." You are no such thing. You probably saw the ring, liked the style, found a good deal, and bought it. It was only after owning it that you realized you were not satisfyed with the piece.

It is not unusual to return jewelry. However, depending on the store, they may only give you a credit. Did you pay a substancial sum for the ring?
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Dear AntiqueShopper,
thank you for your kind words!

The place where I bought it is a goldsmith who produces studs and rings for shops in Vienna. He also does remittance work. He told me that he does not work with models but with the "real ring" and if I don't like it I don't have to buy it.
You are right - at first it looked nice. Of course under the bright lamp over the desk.

I payed EUR 1050.

I told him that I expected the band to be less wide. He offered me to come back to reduce the width of the ring which is quite wide. (not the size of the ring but the wodth of the band). So he won't be totally surprised if I call him. Unfortunately I had only eyes for the design of the ring, not for the stone.

If it does not go smoothly (problems with a credit etc), I can say I learned a lesson: Never order jewelry with diamonds without having seen the diamond before! And never ever again buy good cut-diamonds.
 
#12
A new setting could make it look better more reflective, and there are many thinks that could contribute to the lack of sparkle, like the depth percentage and several other measurements, and of course the culet. Many "modern" diamonds don't have a culet at all. "Dark" spots could be problematic symmetry.
 
#13
If you can return it, go to bluenile.com. There are many stones, similar size, that range from 300-500 US dollars. Plus, settings range in price from 400 US dollars on up. It all depends on if you want platinum, 18K white gold, side stones, etc.
 
#14
lily25,
I just returned from the call, I will visit the goldsmith tomorrow morning.
I have various options:
#1 return the ring and get the money back! (this option makes me very very happy!)

#2 he has a 2nd stone, same size, If the other stone pleases me more, he could exchange the stone.

#3 change the setting: has has another ring with a "prong-setting" (i hope this is the right word, it is Krappen in German). If I notice any difference he would suggest to change the setting.

He was very friendly and patient and pointed out that it has to please me - through my eyes and he will never see through my eyes, so he can't say if I am pleased.

Only one things disturbed me: he says there is only one good way to cut a stone, 58 facets, symmetrical. I did not want to disagree on the phone but think he is wrong in this point.

I will keep you informed!
 
#15
I would take #1 option personally unless you would like to see other rings and stones. His price is not bad though, it is the standard retail price in N Europe from goldsmiths that buy their diamonds directly from Antwerp. The most important thing is that you like what you are wearing.

Prong setting is the right expression it looks like that

http://www.mariloff.com/images/display.php?id=5655

the one you have now is bezel setting
 
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