Vca new turquoise butterfly??

[AlexaKate]

Came across the below in IG, anyone has more intel?? I’m excited they add a gold hardware turquoise butterfly , despite I’m not really a double ring person this combo really got me tempted! But the pricing is way higher than even the pink sapphire one? Anyone has any more info?

 

[mikimoto007]

There's some discussion on the turquoise jewellery thread on the new pieces.

 

[glamourbag]

Came across the below in IG, anyone has more intel?? I’m excited they add a gold hardware turquoise butterfly , despite I’m not really a double ring person this combo really got me tempted! But the pricing is way higher than even the pink sapphire one? Anyone has any more info?

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I don't know if it is going to be much pricier than the white gold diamond/ rose gold pink sapphire one. Looking at the Euros converted to my currency (CDN) it is very close in price to that one. Doing basic currency conversion and taking into account small fluctuations at the time I converted, it looks like it is set to be a bit over 30K CDN for Turquoise vs a bit over 31K (31200 + tax) CDN for the wg diamond/ rg pink sapphire version here.

 

[mommafahionista]

I think these pieces are beautiful! I wonder if the turquoise is sourced from the Sleeping Beauty Mine as previous pieces or from somewhere different. If so, that could mean more turquoise options in the future?!?

 

[MsRuckus]

Turquoise has always been my favorite color and VCA my favorite jeweler. I received a lapis VCA butterfly pendant from my parents for my college graduation in 1998 (now lent indefinitely to my mom who bought herself the onyx but always regretted not getting the lapis.) And I have collected many VCA butterflies over the years, including these. Still, with these in my collection, I’m trying to figure out a way to justify for myself one of these new releases

 

[honeystitch]

I’m thinking of getting the earrings and pendant. Do you get many use out of the earrings? I’m a bit concerned that they are of different colors.

 

[MsRuckus]

I wear them frequently and love the unexpectedness of the contrast. Makes them kinda cooler and less serious so easier to wear casually.

 

[BigAkoya]

Turquoise has always been my favorite color and VCA my favorite jeweler. I received a lapis VCA butterfly pendant from my parents for my college graduation in 1998 (now lent indefinitely to my mom who bought herself the onyx but always regretted not getting the lapis.) And I have collected many VCA butterflies over the years, including these. Still, with these in my collection, I’m trying to figure out a way to justify for myself one of these new releases View attachment 5322654

You have got to see the BTF ring to add to your gorgeous butterfly collection.
There is as photo out now of the real pieces... This post is for you: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/vca-van-cleef-arpels-discussion-thread.867277/post-34998767

 

[honeystitch]

I’m in dilemma.. the turquoise ring is gorgeous but I already have the pink sapphire version.. too much temptation lol

 

[missie1]

Turquoise has always been my favorite color and VCA my favorite jeweler. I received a lapis VCA butterfly pendant from my parents for my college graduation in 1998 (now lent indefinitely to my mom who bought herself the onyx but always regretted not getting the lapis.) And I have collected many VCA butterflies over the years, including these. Still, with these in my collection, I’m trying to figure out a way to justify for myself one of these new releases View attachment 5322654

I absolutely love love your butterfly collection. So beautiful

 

[MsRuckus]

You have got to see the BTF ring to add to your gorgeous butterfly collection.
There is as photo out now of the real pieces... This post is for you: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/vca-van-cleef-arpels-discussion-thread.867277/post-34998767

Thank you for linking. I really like the color of this turquoise with the YG. So tempting! However, because I already have the pave butterfly ring in my collection, I am now eyeing the frivole btf rings too…

I absolutely love love your butterfly collection. So beautiful

Thank you! They do make me happy!

 

[jenayb]

Gah the earrings.

 

[SmokieDragon]

I wonder if the turquoise is sourced from the Sleeping Beauty Mine as previous pieces or from somewhere different.

When I started my VCA journey in September 2021, I had a chance to try on a Sweet Turquoise Butterfly bracelet. From pictures of Sleeping Beauty turquoise pieces I’d seen, I knew it had to come from that mine! But when I mentioned it to the SA, she couldn’t confirm. Glad to know I was right hehe

 

[Yssie]

Sleeping Beauty closed in 2012. In my opinion the possibility that these new pieces - or any other modern pieces - are being made from Sleeping Beauty material is remote.

The colour of the turquoise VCA uses varies hugely. VCA says they source from various locations and there are many active mines in these areas -

Turquoise - Van Cleef & Arpels

Characterized by an intense blue color, turquoise is among the first stones to be mined during Antiquity. Collections such as Alhambra®, Perlée™ and Bouton d’or feature turquoise in delicate harmonies of color, set off by white or yellow gold. Turquoise’s azure hue also features in the Maison’s...

www.vancleefarpels.com

Although colloquial zeitgeist does put a premium on “Sleeping Beauty”, trade value judgment does not. Value is determined by colour, clarity, presence or absence of matrix, and treatments, and geography within the Americas doesn’t factor in.

So it really doesn’t matter where any VCA turquoise is from! Clean and blemish-free material, absence of matrix, no treatments besides Zachery stabilization - these are guaranteed by VCA by default. And whilst yes, there is a trade preferred colour, most mines will output some material that matches the trade ideal, and of course preference for one’s own pieces is inherently subjective.

 

[BigAkoya]

Sleeping Beauty closed in 2012. In my opinion the possibility that these new pieces - or any other modern pieces - are being made from Sleeping Beauty material is remote.

The colour of the turquoise VCA uses varies hugely. VCA says they source from various locations and there are many active mines in these areas -

Turquoise - Van Cleef & Arpels

Characterized by an intense blue color, turquoise is among the first stones to be mined during Antiquity. Collections such as Alhambra®, Perlée™ and Bouton d’or feature turquoise in delicate harmonies of color, set off by white or yellow gold. Turquoise’s azure hue also features in the Maison’s...

www.vancleefarpels.com

Although colloquial zeitgeist does put a premium on “Sleeping Beauty”, trade value judgment does not. Value is determined by colour, clarity, presence or absence of matrix, and treatments, and geography within the Americas doesn’t factor in.

So it really doesn’t matter where any VCA turquoise is from! Clean and blemish-free material, absence of matrix, no treatments besides Zachery stabilization - these are guaranteed by VCA by default. And whilst yes, there is a trade preferred colour, most mines will output some material that matches the trade ideal, and of course preference for one’s own pieces is inherently subjective.

You are spot on. 100% agree. Sleeping Beauty mine closed a long time ago. The active sources for turquoise in South America are Chile and Mexico which is consistent with the VCA write up you posted that says Central and South America.

I had a chance to purchase a strand of “Persian” turquoise, but I chickened out as I did not know the designer and was not 100% sure of her source or how the turquoise was treated. The designer said she was from Iran and her family has been in the business for generations (but we have all heard that line). Hence I passed. I regret it a bit today.