Treatment in Hermes Stores

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Oh dear Im so so sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience with a flagship store, no less!

And yes I have to agree with the part of snobbish sales behaviour. I have never had anything more than water offered to me at my local store and yes, Chanel & LV always readily sends champagne even though I end up buying just a necklace or a pair of shoes. :/


Thank you so much for your kind support dolly chick - I completely agree - there have been times when I have bought nothing or very little but the courtesy and care of the Chanel and LV staff on each visit has meant I very happily return each time :) x
 
I'm not familiar with the UK Disability Act, but from what has been stated above, sounds similar to the ADA (American with Disabilities Act). I wonder if any commenced legal action would be fruitless because the company could respond by saying conditions are temporary and we tried to be accommodating (I.e bring whatever Georgiegirl wanted to see directly to her)?

It's a real shame that the manager didn't become involved and be more forthcoming with info or state that he/she would find out from corporate when the store would be accessible to everyone.
 
I had thought that in the US (I realize this would not affect Hermes UK), the ADA Title III, requires that all "public accommodations"--which include private entities such as retail stores--must make reasonable efforts to enable disabled persons to access their goods and services.
Common sense dictates this, if nothing else. Of course a lift can break down, but the indifference and cluelessness of the staff in making ANY effort to compensate the poster shocks me to the core.
 
So sorry you experienced this! Not only should be lift have been sorted in time for their opening but the manager should have at least come over to you in person, offered you a seat and drink while they were trying to sort things for you. What a shame! I am in London the first weekend in April and wanted to make a visit but I certainly don't want to get any snobbish behaviour.

I hope you get an apology somewhere down the line that you deserve! Enjoy the rest of your time in London xx

Thank you so much Emily, I completely agree with you - let's hope they fit to address this urgently xx

That's terrible! I would be very upset indeed especially after such a trek! The SA and manager seem to have no common sense or courtesy either. I really hope you get much more than an apology. Hope you can enjoy the rest of your stay in London :flowers:

Thank you so much CoutureCoco :) xx
 
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I had thought that in the US (I realize this would not affect Hermes UK), the ADA Title III, requires that all "public accommodations"--which include private entities such as retail stores--must make reasonable efforts to enable disabled persons to access their goods and services.
Common sense dictates this, if nothing else. Of course a lift can break down, but the indifference and cluelessness of the staff in making ANY effort to compensate the poster shocks me to the core.

Yes, in the US, any place of business, including retail stores must be ADA compliant.

I think someone above said private entities are not subject to the UK Act but I think she/he meant private residences/dwellings? I can't imagine the UK not having a law that gives equal rights.
 
You're describing the chanel counter at my local department store. Many many years ago, I went there to see the infamous reissue. By the SA's attitude, you'd think she was helping a gnat and handing over the Ark of the Covenant (Raiders of the Lost Ark). I never returned there since

To the OP, I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hope that they do something to rectify the situation soon. I'm really glad you filed a complaint with your SA and emailed a detailed account. Snubby towards the disabled? Geez, for shame. No bueno.

Thank you Hermes_lemming, I really do appreciate your kind support - I will let you know what response I get (if any), to my communication! xx

georgiegirl I'm really really sorry you were made to feel this way. Your story really hits a raw nerve for me. Frankly, you're taking it a lot better than I imagine I would. I sincerely hope you copy and paste the bulk of your post in an email to head office in Paris with a CC to your store in Manchester, as well as your country MD. This behaviour of the SM is beyond shameful. Sending hugs your way and hope you enjoy whatever nice souvenirs you picked up from LV and Chanel :hugs:

What a lovely post - thank you so much for your support and encouragement Gixxer. I did try to play it down at the time but it definitely wasn't a nice experience :( - let's hope my email gets a good and satisfactory response! X

What a horrible experience, I'm so sorry for you, these things should NOT happen, EVER!

On the bright side, I'm glad you had a good experience at Chanel and LV! Unfortunately good or bad customer service is very different from one store to the next, of the same brand. For example the customer service at Chanel, in my neck of the woods (always in Europe) is appalling! I was in there a few times and they totally ignore you: last time I went, a few years ago, I waited quite a while to see some shoes, nobody took any notice, so I just walked out, and have never been there since!

Thank you for your kind wishes Duna. I am so sorry that you too have experienced customer service that is under par - I will keep you up to date with news here and hope the CS at your local store improves too! :) xx

I am so sorry this happened to you, I can imagine how very disappointed you were and I hope you get some satisfaction when you voice your complaint.

Thank you Suzie, I will let you know what happens x

Georgiegirl, I'm really really horrified by the way you were treated. It's really a shame - What should've been a great and fun experience, didn't turn out be. I'm sorry you were unable to enjoy the newly renovated space, it does leave a bad taste in your mouth without a desire to return. Good to hear that your LV and Chanel experiences were wonderful.

Do keep us updated with the progress of your complaint, and enjoy the remainder of your trip to London!

Thank you so much Maseml - I will certainly keep you updated - Thank You :) xx

I am unfamiliar with disability access laws in the UK, but in the US, the store could face significant trouble with the federal government, as certain accommodations for the disabled are mandated. You absolutely should not only pursue this with Hermes, but with the appropriate governmental agency, as this situation is very possibly illegal. It is shameful that you experienced this and I am so sorry, but happy that other luxury retailers gave you the service you deserve.

Thank you for your support Mindi B - I have heard on this thread since that the lift is still out of order today and that a lady on two crutches was having to negotiate the stairs. I really do think this is so unreasonable considering the amount of time and money Hermes have had to get these essentials ready for the opening and find it even more upsetting that someone hasn't been rushed out to deal with the 'small glitch' xx

I am so sorry to hear about your disappointing experience with the Hermes store. I have mobility issues so I can relate. The doorman should have helped you right away with the door especially if he could see that you have a physical disability that might make opening a door difficult (even if there was someone with you). I agree glitches can happen at anytime, things can breakdown, but the Manager at the very least should have come over and appologized and they should have offered to phone you to let you know when the lift was fixed so you could arrange a return visit at some point. I agree that Hermes did not intentionally set out not to welcome you. My experience is that alot of people and retailers just don't think about people with disabilities - we're just invisible to them. If there is an elevator, its way at the back of the store down some dark hallway or its a service elevator. At my local LV and Hermes stores, there are hardly any proper chairs to sit (I tire easily). Same is true of most shopping malls. As a result I do alot of on line shopping. But I miss the experience of shopping in-store. Just because I have a physical disability doesn't mean I don't enjoy wearing clothes and handbags and jewellery that I like. In fact I probably have spent more than I did before in compensation. I feel better about myself if I put on nice Hermes scarf or shawl and carry a nice bag with some nice jewellery and feel people won't notice my ugly cane, my orthopedic Frankenstein shoes and the loose trousers I wear to hide my knee brace.

Anyways, I'm glad the rest of your shopping trip was more enjoyable. If you go back to the Hermes store, I hope they treat you like royalty to make up for the previous experience. You deserve it.:smile1:

I agree with everything you have said here CanuckBagLover and the suggestion that they could have offered to ring me to let me know when the lift was repaired is an excellent idea - yet their only comment was that it was not able to be used and they didn't know how long it would be out of action - full stop! You also make an excellent point re the shopping experience. I too do s great deal of shopping online which is partly why this visit and this shopping personal experience was so important to me, since it WAS so rare. You detail the way wearing nice things makes one feel so much better about the less attractive side of disability such as (for me), the cane, the sometimes awkward walk and clumsy manner :( xx

Mindi B, I have to disagree with you on this one. The legislation covers the facility being provide in certain establishments. But facilities can breakdown and sometimes can't be fixed by certain time frame and in a situation like this, I highly doubt that it's illegal.

I agree that the store manager and staff should have treated the situation much much better and be more attentive and apologetic to you.

Thank you so much - xiangxiang - let us hope they respond in a much more understanding manner :) x

unfortunately, the Disability Act states that buildings that were built with federal or public money should be compliant. Private businesses aren't bound to these rules.

GeorgieGirl, I am very very sorry this has happened to you. While glitches might happen, certainly the attitude of the SA and Manager cannot be condoned.

Thank you so much for your support MadMadCat - I have to admit that it upset me far more than I think I realised at the time so I have really appreciated all the kind support here on the forum xx
 
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I am so sorry to hear this georgiegirl27 😔😔😔. This treatment is completely unacceptable from the house of Hermes. Hermes is the most expensive leather house maker compare to diff brand Maison. I just can believe they open the store with a non working elevator, that does not make sense to me. I agree with you, with all the money they spent they should have everything ready. This is very unprofessional from Hermes, being one of the most luxurious brand.
The SM should come and apologize to you. They should serve you much better period. I'm so proud that you could keep your composure, coz I will be completely filled with anger.
I hope H corporate will fix this for you and hopefully they will not just send you a letter but more as a gesture of their bad service. 🙏🙏🙏
 
I am so sorry to hear about your disappointing visit. I was there today and the lift still isn't working, I saw one poor customer who had to climb the stairs with 2 crutches! I hope you had a fabulous time again today at Chanel and this does not take away you future enjoyment of Hermes.


Thank you so much Periogirl28 - This is very sad to hear - if the entrance door was not working or the staircase couldn't be used I feel sure they would have pulled out all the stops to get engineers and workmen there as a matter of great urgency so that customers were able to access the store and spend money, so it makes me feel even more sad that Hermes do not value their disabled customers to the same degree :( xx
 
Hello ladies,

I was looking forward to telling you all about my exciting trip to the unveiling of the newly refurbished flagship store in New Bond Street, London, but sadly things did not go as well as expected!

I arrived at the store after a 5 hour drive and was so excited that I couldn't wait another minute! 😄

The visit didn't start well with the doorman only bothering to open the door for me after a short wait and then us trying to open the door for ourselves...

However, that aside, when we did get in, we were greeted by two lovely ladies who spent a minute or two chatting with us and saying how they thought we would LOVE what the newly refurbished store had to offer! 😄

Sadly, this is where the problems really began...

I explained that I wanted to look at the much acclaimed Maison department and also to look at a couple of items of jewellery, shawls, shoes and a summer handbag and was directed to the first floor.

I asked if one of the SA's could show me where the lift was please and was told that the lift was not available and that I would have to use the stairs. I explained that I could not use the stairs (for those on the forum who do not know, I am disabled).

The SA went to speak to her manager and came back to say there was a 'minor glitch' with the lift so it was not possible to use it.

I said that I completely understood how new store openings often came with teething troubles so I asked if they knew when the lift would be fixed saying that I would happily come back the following day to make my purchases.

The SA again went to speak to her manager (who glanced over the SA's shoulder at my son and I) and she returned saying she had been told the lift was out of order and they had no idea when anyone was coming to look at it OR when it would be fixed.

This was not the corner shop in a small village out in the countryside and this was not a run of the mill day where the lift just happened to develop a 'small glitch', this was the FLAGSHIP store of Hermes on their grand re-opening after many months of work and after a great deal of money had been spent getting the store ready for opening... surely the lift should have been one of the items on the 'this MUST be ready' list for a store like Hermes?

Instead of feeling we were part of a special day and treated with the great attention and courtesy expected from a high end boutique, we were made to feel dismissed and disregarded with the general feeling being one of welcome to the store and all we have to offer, but if you cannot make the stairs then you have to leave... :(

I do not for a second think that Hermes were not wanting to welcome disabled people into the store, but once in through the front door they had made it impossible to access the store any further and in effect, sadly, really didn't seem to care very much at all about me as a customer...it was all very disappointing.

The SA did say that she could ask her manager if she was allowed to bring something down for me to look at in the entrance if I knew what I wanted, but shopping - for me at least - is as much about looking round at the lovely displays etc and soaking up the atmosphere of the store as it is about making a purchase, not being sat in a corner on the ground floor and shown one or two items chosen by the SA's who had no more than 2 minutes knowledge of me as a customer... :(

The manager did not come over to me at any point to explain or to apologise for the situation (despite the store being very quiet - the ground floor was in fact almost completely empty).

Also, despite them knowing that I had travelled 5 hours to be there for the opening, I was not even offered a seat let alone a glass of water or a celebratory glass of champagne.

By way of comparison, we left and went next door to Chanel where we were immediately greeted with the usual enthusiasm and welcome, where we were waited on from department to department and where we were immediately served champagne, sparking water and snacks. We were attended to wonderfully for a couple of hours and also have a private appointment arranged there for today.

We then went on to Louis Vuitton who were also wonderfully helpful and attentive - we were again offered Champagne and were attended by a lovely lady who showed us the exotics bags with great enthusiasm and obvious enjoyment. What a stark contrast in both cases to the lack of care felt in Hermes?

I told both Chanel and LV what had happened at Hermes (at the end of my visit with them) and both were appalled at what had happened. I also telephoned my SA's in Manchester who have asked me to put it in writing to them so that they can escalate it to senior managers at the highest level.

Having gone to the expense of booking a few days here to be part of the opening and to be able to browse and shop at leisure from all Hermes had to offer, I was left unable to get more than a couple of metres inside the store and made to feel both unwelcome and unwanted and was actually left feeling quite upset that no one really seemed to care one way or the other :(

I shall update you with what happens ladies, but meanwhile what a very great shame and what a missed opportunity all round... 😔 xx










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As the wife of a husband with mobility issues I was so saddened to read your post. That this should happen to you in 2015 is unforgivable yet I am not surprised that it happened at Hermes.. I think that as a company Hermes promotes a luxury lifestyle yet on many levels fails to deliver the experience I would expect from a high street brand let alone a highly profitable luxury brand. I so hope that you get a sincere apology and that they go out of their way to make a repeat visit everything it really should be.

Ps I agree with you about Hermes Manchester. Thank goodness that's our home store.
 
I am so sorry to hear this georgiegirl27 😔😔😔. This treatment is completely unacceptable from the house of Hermes. Hermes is the most expensive leather house maker compare to diff brand Maison. I just can believe they open the store with a non working elevator, that does not make sense to me. I agree with you, with all the money they spent they should have everything ready. This is very unprofessional from Hermes, being one of the most luxurious brand.
The SM should come and apologize to you. They should serve you much better period. I'm so proud that you could keep your composure, coz I will be completely filled with anger.
I hope H corporate will fix this for you and hopefully they will not just send you a letter but more as a gesture of their bad service. 🙏🙏🙏


Thank you so much for your kind support doves75 - I really appreciate it. Harrods said exactly the same today - that Hermes really should not have opened without a fully working elevator to provide the same access for disabled shoppers as able bodied shoppers. Let's hope Corporate deal with this in a truly exemplary manner - as one would expect from the House of Hermes xx

As the wife of a husband with mobility issues I was so saddened to read your post. That this should happen to you in 2015 is unforgivable yet I am not surprised that it happened at Hermes.. I think that as a company Hermes promotes a luxury lifestyle yet on many levels fails to deliver the experience I would expect from a high street brand let alone a highly profitable luxury brand. I so hope that you get a sincere apology and that they go out of their way to make a repeat visit everything it really should be.

Ps I agree with you about Hermes Manchester. Thank goodness that's our home store.

I have to admit that I cannot think of another store where I have been treated with such lack of care and consideration - and I say this not just for me but also for the other people with mobility issues who have been denied access and put at risk being made to navigate the very slippy non carpeted double flight of stairs in the newly opened, fully refurbished, heavily invested in store!

I will keep this thread updated and thank you so much xx
 
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I am unfamiliar with disability access laws in the UK, but in the US, the store could face significant trouble with the federal government, as certain accommodations for the disabled are mandated. You absolutely should not only pursue this with Hermes, but with the appropriate governmental agency, as this situation is very possibly illegal. It is shameful that you experienced this and I am so sorry, but happy that other luxury retailers gave you the service you deserve.

This^! I am so sorry you had this awful experience, GeorgieGirl!
 
Geogiegirl...I am so sorry this happened to you. As you said, things happen and break down (although I would have imagined that for such a grand opening, Hermes would have done better and fixed something so necessary as an elevator). The problem is the lack of consideration on the part of the doorman, the SA, and the manager. An apology and simple acknowledgement goes a long way, and it's perplexing to me that some people in the service industry forget that. I wished the doorman would have opened the door for you right away, before you even reached it, that the SA and manager would have been apologetic for the situation, acknowledged your feelings, offered better solutions to the problem, and made you feel comfortable and welcomed. Shame on them.
Please keep us posted on the situation. I hope they do something to fix this. 💐💐💐
 
Thank you so much for your kind support dolly chick - I completely agree - there have been times when I have bought nothing or very little but the courtesy and care of the Chanel and LV staff on each visit has meant I very happily return each time :) x

Really sorry for what happened to you especially you rode 5 hours to visit the store. I've to shake my head because it is another classic story of Hermes. It seems that while there are happy customers, the ratio to bad service is pretty high and I too feel that the other French luxury houses have better service especially LV. Their sales reps go out of their way to show me the bags and are trained well with a lot of knowledge of their product. As much as I like H products, I've to take a deep breath every time I go in.

I hope that you hear from management very soon. Like other US members said, we've very strict laws in the US but I've noticed that H is one of those stores that are hardly thoughtful of those situations.

Keep us posted.
 
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