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Thanks all!
Be careful of that one on eBay, there is a stain on it. This is super fragile leather. The only reason I bought it is that it wasn't that expensive (though pricey) and because apple spray is so amazing protecting leather.
A lovely, lovely, Caroline NWT for $330 - retail was $1000 I looked at this one in the store over and over again. The issue it it's White Nubuck type leather. It's not going to last long I don't think, but now that my Vechetta made it through with lots of apple spray and magic eraser, I thought this one might live a long life with me.