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I never thought that I would be loving the Hermes Fourre Tout style, I have 3 in the MM size and I've always been wanting the GM but I am not sure how big it would be for me. Though a canvas bag, it is not cheap nor easy to find (especially the GM).

Good thing I found the HFT GM, in a price that I can't say NO to. I would say it is a perfect size for a weekend or work bag if you have alot of things to bring!

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First post here, please be kind ;-)

I have been a long time Hermès collector, and am currently in the market for a 37cm Jypsiere. I came upon one lightly preloved, which gives me pause, as I've never purchased anything Hermès from anywhere but my local shop, but this seems authentic with box, dust cloth, receipt, etc.. That aside, I am posting about the color, bougainvillea..... is this a color one would consider too flamboyant for a man? I am a gay man, my wardrobe consist of many shades of blues, pinks/corals/muted brick colors, yellows, etc.. My husband hates the color, to be honest, but I am drawn to this bag in it, due to its flashiness, and uniqueness. What do others think? Are there others here who where Hermès Bougainvillea? Thanks in advance for any replies.
 
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First post here, please be kind ;)

I have been a long time Hermès collector, and am currently in the market for a 37cm Jypsiere. I came upon one lightly preloved, which gives me pause, as I've never purchased anything Hermès from anywhere but my local shop, but this seems authentic with box, dust cloth, receipt, etc.. That aside, I am posting about the color, bougainvillea..... is this a color one would consider too flamboyant for a man? I am a gay man, my wardrobe consist of many shades of blues, pinks/corals/muted brick colors, yellows, etc.. My husband hates the color, to be honest, but I am drawn to this bag in it, due to its flashiness, and uniqueness. What do others think? Are there others here who where Hermès Bougainvillea? Thanks in advance for any replies.

If you like the color, you should absolutely not be worried about what others think, or what might seem "too flamboyant" for a man. My daily bag is Rose Azalee, which isn't quite as loud as Boigainvillea, but it's still a bright pink and I've never struggled to tune the "masculinity of my look" in either direction (more masculine or more feminine) with it. I would note that the larger the bag, the more impact it's color has on your look, but if you're drawn to it and already have a lot of options in your wardrobe to play with, you'll be fine. And if your husband doesn't like it, it's totally ok, he doesn't have to wear it...and I'm sure he married you for who you are :biggrin:
 
First post here, please be kind ;-)

I have been a long time Hermès collector, and am currently in the market for a 37cm Jypsiere. I came upon one lightly preloved, which gives me pause, as I've never purchased anything Hermès from anywhere but my local shop, but this seems authentic with box, dust cloth, receipt, etc.. That aside, I am posting about the color, bougainvillea..... is this a color one would consider too flamboyant for a man? I am a gay man, my wardrobe consist of many shades of blues, pinks/corals/muted brick colors, yellows, etc.. My husband hates the color, to be honest, but I am drawn to this bag in it, due to its flashiness, and uniqueness. What do others think? Are there others here who where Hermès Bougainvillea? Thanks in advance for any replies.


You have expressed at least three reasons why you have not snapped it up.
Whatever others think, I believe that you know deep down what you really feel about those issues.
All of them suggest to me that it is not the bag for you today.
Ask yourself, if you left it for a few weeks to think about it and returned to the shop to discover that it had been sold, how would you feel? Would it confirm that it was a colour that you really wanted? Or would it be a sense of relief that the decision was made for you?

1 There is the authenticity concern - get a reliable authentication
2 There is the flamboyancy concern - once you have moved away from neutrals to colours,
you have passed the point if no return. I don't see where your sexual proclivity is relevant.
3 The opinion of your husband - if you choose to get married I think you should respect the opinion of
your spouse. That does not mean that either of you should be controlled or intimidated.
'respect' meaning having consideration for the thoughts, feelings or opinions of the other
What did you mean by 'hate'? Dislike or abhor?
 
You have expressed at least three reasons why you have not snapped it up.
Whatever others think, I believe that you know deep down what you really feel about those issues.
All of them suggest to me that it is not the bag for you today.
Ask yourself, if you left it for a few weeks to think about it and returned to the shop to discover that it had been sold, how would you feel? Would it confirm that it was a colour that you really wanted? Or would it be a sense of relief that the decision was made for you?

1 There is the authenticity concern - get a reliable authentication
2 There is the flamboyancy concern - once you have moved away from neutrals to colours,
you have passed the point if no return. I don't see where your sexual proclivity is relevant.
3 The opinion of your husband - if you choose to get married I think you should respect the opinion of
your spouse. That does not mean that either of you should be controlled or intimidated.
'respect' meaning having consideration for the thoughts, feelings or opinions of the other
What did you mean by 'hate'? Dislike or abhor?
There is a flamboyancy concern, and I raised being gay, because it might help explain my gravitation towards exuberant colors such as this is. My main, everyday bag at the moment is a Cityslide Messenger Bag in Colvert. While not bougainvillea level bright, it is a brighter teal color, especially contrasted against the dark indigo accents on the bag. I know numerous straight men, and I know none who gravitate towards a color such as bougainvillea. Furthest I've seen them go is pale pink shirts or pants, at the behest of their GFs or wives, but, yes, in the end, in a perfect world, that factor would not matter. We, however, live in a far from perfect world. Also, all of this is for only my little part of the world, and I'm curious if other men of any type wear this color bag in other parts of the world, so I can broaden my perspective and thinking.

I own pants, shorts, shirts, and other items in colors similar to this, as it is described to me, but a big 'ole leather bag in that sort of color is a whole different story, and has a different effect on ones appearance. Therein lies my hesitancy. While I own items in similar colors, I don't own accessories, especially ones as large as a 37cm wide bag, in this sort of a color.

I'm not tremendously concerned about the authenticity. I have enough Hermès, as its the only accessory producer of its type I purchase, that I feel I can spot a fake pretty easily, even the AAA quality fakes. There're always telltale signs, and a je ne sais quoi that sets off alarm bells of "this just isn't quite right." This item doesn't do that, and I've done due diligence on its provenance. What bothers me most is I do feel like I'm betraying my local Hermès boutique not buying a new bag from them. Unfortunately, my SA, Sally, abruptly left the company end of last year. Being a two time heart surgery survivor, even vaccinated, I'm advised to avoid enclosed spaces still until the pandemic further lessens, so I haven't been in the store to establish myself with a new SA. I'll miss Sally, I worked with her for almost a decade obtaining anything and everything :-/

As for my husband, he's a physician, he has that conservative, reserved, need to pry an opinion out of him with a crowbar, physician mentality, and even then, it usually isn't obtuse in its form. I used to think it just him, but all our friends who are doctors have a similar mentality. It's like they teach it in medical school, or something. I do know he truly hates the Jypsiere bag, but he also says since he won't be the one carrying it, his opinion of the style doesn't matter, what's important is do I like it. I respect that. As for the color, his exact response, when I showed him on my iPad before bed one night was, "Um, yeah, uh, that's a whole lot of wow right there..... that's a whole lot of everything there...." and that is all I've gotten out of him, despite subsequent efforts.

To answer your question about how I'd feel if the bag were sold while I was considering it, I'd be really disappointed, and in no way relieved that I no longer have the choice. That, however, doesn't help me decide if I think this color is one that may be too eccentric for me to wear as a bag. I've looked at the Jypsiere bag in the gamut of colors, and the only neutral color I even find it intriguing in is Graphite. I like it in Colvert, but I am already sporting that now, and want a change. I like the bag in Orange, but am inclined to think this bag style in orange would go less well with my wardrobe than the reddish-orangish-pinkish of bougainvillea, besides, I have a Evelyne III TGM bag in orange that I don't use often, but that doesn't, again, help me decide if bougainvillea is too bright and eccentric for me. That's the reason for posting here, to ask what others are doing, thinking, for this bag and color, so it broadens my vantage point, and hopefully in the process gives me ideas, and triggers a decision. Hopefully, sooner than later, so I don't miss the chance, should I deem it right for me.
 
Thanks
You have addressed and countered each of the issues I raised.
My reading of what you wrote suggests to me every time that you think (possibly 'know') it is not the right bag for you.
In all things if you miss one opportunity another will present itself.

There is one point I disagree with strongly.
You have obviously been a good customer to your local Hermes boutique.
If it cannot provide you with any item that you want and you source it elsewhere, it is the boutique that has failed you in the service it is providing to you; in no way are you betraying (such an inappropriate word - being disloyal, having an affair!) it.
 
There is a flamboyancy concern, and I raised being gay, because it might help explain my gravitation towards exuberant colors such as this is. My main, everyday bag at the moment is a Cityslide Messenger Bag in Colvert. While not bougainvillea level bright, it is a brighter teal color, especially contrasted against the dark indigo accents on the bag. I know numerous straight men, and I know none who gravitate towards a color such as bougainvillea. Furthest I've seen them go is pale pink shirts or pants, at the behest of their GFs or wives, but, yes, in the end, in a perfect world, that factor would not matter. We, however, live in a far from perfect world. Also, all of this is for only my little part of the world, and I'm curious if other men of any type wear this color bag in other parts of the world, so I can broaden my perspective and thinking.

I own pants, shorts, shirts, and other items in colors similar to this, as it is described to me, but a big 'ole leather bag in that sort of color is a whole different story, and has a different effect on ones appearance. Therein lies my hesitancy. While I own items in similar colors, I don't own accessories, especially ones as large as a 37cm wide bag, in this sort of a color.

I'm not tremendously concerned about the authenticity. I have enough Hermès, as its the only accessory producer of its type I purchase, that I feel I can spot a fake pretty easily, even the AAA quality fakes. There're always telltale signs, and a je ne sais quoi that sets off alarm bells of "this just isn't quite right." This item doesn't do that, and I've done due diligence on its provenance. What bothers me most is I do feel like I'm betraying my local Hermès boutique not buying a new bag from them. Unfortunately, my SA, Sally, abruptly left the company end of last year. Being a two time heart surgery survivor, even vaccinated, I'm advised to avoid enclosed spaces still until the pandemic further lessens, so I haven't been in the store to establish myself with a new SA. I'll miss Sally, I worked with her for almost a decade obtaining anything and everything :-/

As for my husband, he's a physician, he has that conservative, reserved, need to pry an opinion out of him with a crowbar, physician mentality, and even then, it usually isn't obtuse in its form. I used to think it just him, but all our friends who are doctors have a similar mentality. It's like they teach it in medical school, or something. I do know he truly hates the Jypsiere bag, but he also says since he won't be the one carrying it, his opinion of the style doesn't matter, what's important is do I like it. I respect that. As for the color, his exact response, when I showed him on my iPad before bed one night was, "Um, yeah, uh, that's a whole lot of wow right there..... that's a whole lot of everything there...." and that is all I've gotten out of him, despite subsequent efforts.

To answer your question about how I'd feel if the bag were sold while I was considering it, I'd be really disappointed, and in no way relieved that I no longer have the choice. That, however, doesn't help me decide if I think this color is one that may be too eccentric for me to wear as a bag. I've looked at the Jypsiere bag in the gamut of colors, and the only neutral color I even find it intriguing in is Graphite. I like it in Colvert, but I am already sporting that now, and want a change. I like the bag in Orange, but am inclined to think this bag style in orange would go less well with my wardrobe than the reddish-orangish-pinkish of bougainvillea, besides, I have a Evelyne III TGM bag in orange that I don't use often, but that doesn't, again, help me decide if bougainvillea is too bright and eccentric for me. That's the reason for posting here, to ask what others are doing, thinking, for this bag and color, so it broadens my vantage point, and hopefully in the process gives me ideas, and triggers a decision. Hopefully, sooner than later, so I don't miss the chance, should I deem it right for me.

You’re overthinking this! If you like the color, get it. I can understand that you might be apprehensive because of what others might think but a color is just a color. It’s our cultural conceptions attached to colors that determine whether one is considered more “masculine” or “feminine” at any point in time. Take a look at this video:


What you’re essentially afraid of is how people will perceive you for wearing this color. I think it might be best to wear your orange Evelyne more often in order to gain the confidence of wearing a brightly colored bag and go on from there! Then get the Bougainvilla Jypsière - that way you’ll be able to fully enjoy it as much as you’d like, whenever you’d want to!
 
You’re overthinking this! If you like the color, get it. I can understand that you might be apprehensive because of what others might think but a color is just a color. It’s our cultural conceptions attached to colors that determine whether one is considered more “masculine” or “feminine” at any point in time. Take a look at this video:


What you’re essentially afraid of is how people will perceive you for wearing this color. I think it might be best to wear your orange Evelyne more often in order to gain the confidence of wearing a brightly colored bag and go on from there! Then get the Bougainvilla Jypsière - that way you’ll be able to fully enjoy it as much as you’d like, whenever you’d want to!

Thank you. You're absolutely right, I am overthinking it. I've been known to do that. I'm leaning towards buying it. I asked the seller a couple more questions, and contacted bababebi to do a review, just to ensure my own eyes didn't overlook something. Counterfeiters are sneaky creatures, and we all are want to overlook signs something isn't as it is, and is rather what we want it to be when we like, and want something. Assuming I like the answers, and bababebi confirms my own findings, I'll most likely proceed with the purchase. Having never purchased any luxury item, especially an Hermès item, from anywhere except the manufacturer, I'm super nervous about this entire scenario. Thinking things over while waiting to fall asleep last night, I realized it's that, more than color, or anything that keeps me from moving on to purchase.

This whole process has highlighted one thing, and that's I need to get to my local H boutique, as soon as my cardiologist clears me to be in enclosed indoor settings, and get established with a new SA, since mine moved on. Like finding a new contractor, doctor, veterinarian, etc., it will be trial an error at first to find the person I click with. It took me a couple months to connect with Sally, years ago. Not looking forward to the process again.

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First post here, please be kind ;)

I have been a long time Hermès collector, and am currently in the market for a 37cm Jypsiere. I came upon one lightly preloved, which gives me pause, as I've never purchased anything Hermès from anywhere but my local shop, but this seems authentic with box, dust cloth, receipt, etc.. That aside, I am posting about the color, bougainvillea..... is this a color one would consider too flamboyant for a man? I am a gay man, my wardrobe consist of many shades of blues, pinks/corals/muted brick colors, yellows, etc.. My husband hates the color, to be honest, but I am drawn to this bag in it, due to its flashiness, and uniqueness. What do others think? Are there others here who where Hermès Bougainvillea? Thanks in advance for any replies.

Color is a very personal thing... If you are drawn to that color, and you would feel sad if it was sold, then get it and try it out. If it ends up not working out, you can always sell it down the line. I personally prefer neutrals for bags because even though I love bright happy colors, I struggle to work them seamlessly into my wardrobe. I learned this from having purchased a bright bag that never looked quite right with my clothes.
 
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First post here, please be kind ;)

I have been a long time Hermès collector, and am currently in the market for a 37cm Jypsiere. I came upon one lightly preloved, which gives me pause, as I've never purchased anything Hermès from anywhere but my local shop, but this seems authentic with box, dust cloth, receipt, etc.. That aside, I am posting about the color, bougainvillea..... is this a color one would consider too flamboyant for a man? I am a gay man, my wardrobe consist of many shades of blues, pinks/corals/muted brick colors, yellows, etc.. My husband hates the color, to be honest, but I am drawn to this bag in it, due to its flashiness, and uniqueness. What do others think? Are there others here who where Hermès Bougainvillea? Thanks in advance for any replies.

The colour is very beautiful and chic. My only concern is, that your husband is not too pleased with the colour. I think you will be happy when your husband gives you compliment whenever you carry the bag, right?
Our of the topic, I wanted to get a pair of Valentino heel but my husband hates it, he said he would not go out with me if I wear the shoes. Then he went online and ordered a pair of CL heels for me which he approves. At the end, I got so many compliments from strangers when I wear the CL heels..... And I am happy because my husband is happy.
 
@urbanextant I don't think that color is that flamboyant. At least from my perspective, it sits right outside of the "neutrals" circle, but compliments the neutral colors that you mentioned (blues). Isn't it in the same color family as brique, which is the color of red bricks? I would consider yellow or pink more "flamboyant" than this color and coming from my personal perspective, which may not be so relevant to you of course, I would probably wear this color on a bag or (the bottom of) a shoe, or some detail on clothing.
 
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