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Well what i do not understand is an Exotic Copernic is around 2.5 times higher in price then a normal Copernic. The Calvi is around 9 times higher.

I quite agree
If anyone were think it might be a nice entry level exotic, that would be a mistake. For so little (all things are relative) more, you have the Copernic MC2; much more useful and much more skilled workmanship.
It would be a desirable 'money no object' piece for someone who already has other exotic bags or slgs.

Regardless if it’s a calvi, copernic, or euclide it a requires a whole alligator hide.

If this is really so, and somehow I think it could be, because it uses that central belly part, it does make me feel uncomfortable.
 
I quite agree
If anyone were think it might be a nice entry level exotic, that would be a mistake. For so little (all things are relative) more, you have the Copernic MC2; much more useful and much more skilled workmanship.
It would be a desirable 'money no object' piece for someone who already has other exotic bags or slgs.

Regardless if it’s a calvi, copernic, or euclide it a requires a whole alligator hide.

If this is really so, and somehow I think it could be, because it uses that central belly part, it does make me feel uncomfortable.

You make a good point. I actually thought it was like any other SLG and bag charms usually made from scrap leather from bigger bags/goods, but I am certainly no expert on the topic. However, however I share your concern if it is true that it’s one hide per exotic SLG. Also extremely wasteful from a managing your resources POV so I simply cannot imagine them just scrapping the rest of the hide. Then the rest of it must be used for handles or fringes or god knows what it sold on to other work shops?
 
You make a good point. I actually thought it was like any other SLG and bag charms usually made from scrap leather from bigger bags/goods, but I am certainly no expert on the topic. However, however I share your concern if it is true that it’s one hide per exotic SLG. Also extremely wasteful from a managing your resources POV so I simply cannot imagine them just scrapping the rest of the hide. Then the rest of it must be used for handles or fringes or god knows what it sold on to other work shops?
This is why there’s Petit H and some Touch bags (the one with exotic parts and the rest regular leather), to upcycle the scraps
 
Yep, I can confirm that Calvi exotic does use one entire hide since it’s cut vertically.

Hermes is very much luxury by wastefulness, but at least you get the best hides and the best cut.

It’s why their exotic belts are so expensive (that and the name). Most exotic belts from other brands cut multiple horizontal cuts and piece together these cuts for a belt. You can get 4 to 8 yields depending on the hide. With Hermes they have one large hide (expensive) and cut vertically in one piece which yields at most 1 to 2 cuts. And they use Porosus croc (more expensive than alligator) for their belts.

Same with their wallets, other brands cut horizontally getting more yields for the hide, but not Hermes. They do the vertical cut basically using the prime part of the belly hide, even the Calvi is this cut.
 
I had a bespoke alli watch strap made at a French atelier and I was shown some skins and - there was a choice of which scale formation I preferred, hence the area to be used. I had a passing thought that surely they would get more than that from one skin, but how could they because such a limited area was suitable.

and yes, I know, I'm prejudiced in favour of digital
so I don't aspire to precision Swiss timepieces - fortunately

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Care to share which atelier? That's a beautiful color!

What I love the most about going to ateliers... Getting the full choice of leathers, materials and most colors, as well as talking to the craftsman and being involved in the process. Somtimes they have truly exotic skins as well, like hippo or elephant! :X
 
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