I know I’m late to the party but have to add my 2 cents worth. I got the Sorrento in Mauve. After trying to live with its imperfections I returned it. This is the first bag I’ve received “made in Vietnam”. I didn’t think the quality of workmanship was there compared to other bags, and for this price .. I expected more. The corners which show the green and mauve together .. the cut was verryyy jagged.., and coming apart in some areas. There was some glue residue on the bag itself .. in the smile fold . But not suppose to be there (should have been on that leather separating.) it’s all I could see when I looked at the bag. I would never try another because of that.
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Wow not good. Lots of mass production for the holidays and rush after the pandemic I think. I have issues with quality control too. Good you returned it. If you aren't satisfied, RETURN it.
I’m happy I started this back up!!! I can only speak for myself .. mine wasn’t good. I returned it & didn’t get a replacement! C~
thanks for the input! I’m interested in it because it just looked like a different texture pebble. Maybe if it ever went on a really good deal I’ll consider it
I hope it works out for you! I think the days of our really good deals has passed! But my problem wasn’t the leather quality.. rather the jagged cute, the separating materials and the glue residue! I wish you the best of luck with it!!! C~thanks for the input! I’m interested in it because it just looked like a different texture pebble. Maybe if it ever went on a really good deal I’ll consider it
Ohhh me too! I don’t have 1 in natural .. but I want one .. a mini satchel. I got my first mini (in Aqua. My unicorn) and I love it.
I’m resurrecting this thread because I just saw the satchel on Dooney. I didn’t see it last weekend. Lots of great colors. However the reviews don’t look promising. 
Thanks for the info. I want to understand more about the different leathers.
If Sorrento puddles, then it means it's a soft leather. Might work for some styles
better than others.
I personally prefer more structure in my handbags. But I do
like fine leathers. Taht's often a challenging combination.
I've seen structured handbags made with thin leathers that wrinkled, and
the bags looked terrible.
I agree. I want to know more too. The main site is seriously lacking in information about the different kinds of leather.
I like the feel of soft leather. But for everyday purses, I’m not too confident in that holding up. I’ve got a Kate Spade that’s soft leather, I really like the bag, but it has absolutely no structure.
Saffiano is their poly-coated line? I watched a video by the leather guy who rips up LV, YSL, etc luxury brands; he said a lot of companies are doing this coated covering.
As for the drooping, I was considering buying the Dawson city bag off Goodwill, and noticed it was soft leather too. I wonder if that bag droops..?
Kitty: this whole leather thing is very complex. The more I have tried to research
leather, the more I learn but the more confusing it becomes. We have to understand
if the leather is full grain, top grain, just 'genuine leather' or even some
composite (I call that baloney leather.... leather bits mixed with chemicals and
extruded into sheets of leather.)
Even withing full grain, there are differences in quality and thickness.
Then there is the processing of the leather.... is the surface smoothed or sanded?
Is it embossed to look pebbled or like ostrich or crosshatched like in saffiano/
Then is it coated in some way?
Very often leather is softened in processing.... it can be stretched, tumbled,
or chemically treated. So a thin piece of leather, may be like glove leather,
may seem lux, but it may not be well suited to handbag use in terms of
durability or function. A thicker piece of soft leather might be just fine
in some handbag designs.
i think that most of the coated leathers I have seen, like saffiano and some
of the smooth leathers, are thinner pieces of leather (top grain?).
That makes them lighter. But what does it say about the quality of the leather?
And very few handbag brands give us enough info. Lots of the descriptions,
where they exist, use marketing terminology or generic language.
Foe example, pebbled leather just describes the surface of the leather.
It doesn't tell you what kind of leather it is, or how it has been processed,
or if the pebbling is an embossing. Dooney original All Weather Leather
was pebbled. But they achieved the texture by shrinking the leather.
The result was a very thick and heavy piece of leather. A very durable
leather. Much of the pebbled
leather collections today achieve the pebbled texture by embossing pieces
of leather. That leather can be thick (as in the Dillion collection) or much
thinner, as in the styles just identified as pebbled leather.
Even when I try to understand some of the top handbag brands, like Hermes,
I don't get a clear picture of the difference of the different leathers.
Maybe they are all the highest quality? Maybe some are better
than others? I am very much a novice in this area.
On top of all of that, there is the question of individual taste and
functional requirements. I've had beautiful thick soft leather
slouchy handbags that didn't work for me. Friends who inherited them
think they are fabulous. I agree, the leather was great and soft and the
style was beautiful.... it just didn't work for me!
Regarding the Dawson, it is a smooth leather, but I don't think it's a
smoushy leather. The design is very much like the Brenna and the Barlow,
which have also been done in many different leathers. The pliability of
the leather allows it to be adapted to the design of the bag. The structure
bag comes from the construction. I don't think the thickness or thinness of the
leather will affect the slouchyness of the bag very much.
The leather in the Dawson may be waxed or lightly coated, I don't remember.
But it's not heavily coated and doesn't feel plasticy like some coated canvas
or saffiano.
Most leather soften with use, even coated leather like saffiano.
Disclaimer: These days I rotate thru a large number of different handbags so
none of them get enough use to show the benefits or ravages of
lots of wear.
I admit to being a geek about specifications and details.... in jewelry
and diamonds and handbags to understand these things.
Many of my friends say if they like the look and think it's worth the price,
then it's not important to delved into the specs. (These are highly educated
and generally very smart people). With so much misinformation and the
difficulty of getting 'the facts' and the complexity of these subjects it's
easy to go down the rabbit hole and either end up confused or only wanting
to buy the very, very, very best. Since most of us don't have that kind
of budget, we all need to evaluate things in the way that makes the most
sense to us.
In any class of products there is always a range of quality. If you know what the
top is, but can't or won't buy it due to cost, are you disappointed when you get
something you know isn't the best, but is very good? Or would you rather just
get what you like and can afford, and not delve into the underlying quality
and value? I've seen this go both ways when someone is shopping for an engagement
ring. Everyone has to make trade-offs between cost and size of stone and quality
of the diamond, not to mention style preferences.
Handbags can be even more confusing, since there are no industry standards to
judge quality of the leather objcetively, like there are for diamonds.
leather, the more I learn but the more confusing it becomes. We have to understand
if the leather is full grain, top grain, just 'genuine leather' or even some
composite (I call that baloney leather.... leather bits mixed with chemicals and
extruded into sheets of leather.)
Even withing full grain, there are differences in quality and thickness.
Then there is the processing of the leather.... is the surface smoothed or sanded?
Is it embossed to look pebbled or like ostrich or crosshatched like in saffiano/
Then is it coated in some way?
Very often leather is softened in processing.... it can be stretched, tumbled,
or chemically treated. So a thin piece of leather, may be like glove leather,
may seem lux, but it may not be well suited to handbag use in terms of
durability or function. A thicker piece of soft leather might be just fine
in some handbag designs.
i think that most of the coated leathers I have seen, like saffiano and some
of the smooth leathers, are thinner pieces of leather (top grain?).
That makes them lighter. But what does it say about the quality of the leather?
And very few handbag brands give us enough info. Lots of the descriptions,
where they exist, use marketing terminology or generic language.
Foe example, pebbled leather just describes the surface of the leather.
It doesn't tell you what kind of leather it is, or how it has been processed,
or if the pebbling is an embossing. Dooney original All Weather Leather
was pebbled. But they achieved the texture by shrinking the leather.
The result was a very thick and heavy piece of leather. A very durable
leather. Much of the pebbled
leather collections today achieve the pebbled texture by embossing pieces
of leather. That leather can be thick (as in the Dillion collection) or much
thinner, as in the styles just identified as pebbled leather.
Even when I try to understand some of the top handbag brands, like Hermes,
I don't get a clear picture of the difference of the different leathers.
Maybe they are all the highest quality? Maybe some are better
than others? I am very much a novice in this area.
On top of all of that, there is the question of individual taste and
functional requirements. I've had beautiful thick soft leather
slouchy handbags that didn't work for me. Friends who inherited them
think they are fabulous. I agree, the leather was great and soft and the
style was beautiful.... it just didn't work for me!
Regarding the Dawson, it is a smooth leather, but I don't think it's a
smoushy leather. The design is very much like the Brenna and the Barlow,
which have also been done in many different leathers. The pliability of
the leather allows it to be adapted to the design of the bag. The structure
bag comes from the construction. I don't think the thickness or thinness of the
leather will affect the slouchyness of the bag very much.
The leather in the Dawson may be waxed or lightly coated, I don't remember.
But it's not heavily coated and doesn't feel plasticy like some coated canvas
or saffiano.
Most leather soften with use, even coated leather like saffiano.
Disclaimer: These days I rotate thru a large number of different handbags so
none of them get enough use to show the benefits or ravages of
lots of wear.
I admit to being a geek about specifications and details.... in jewelry
and diamonds and handbags to understand these things.
Many of my friends say if they like the look and think it's worth the price,
then it's not important to delved into the specs. (These are highly educated
and generally very smart people). With so much misinformation and the
difficulty of getting 'the facts' and the complexity of these subjects it's
easy to go down the rabbit hole and either end up confused or only wanting
to buy the very, very, very best. Since most of us don't have that kind
of budget, we all need to evaluate things in the way that makes the most
sense to us.
In any class of products there is always a range of quality. If you know what the
top is, but can't or won't buy it due to cost, are you disappointed when you get
something you know isn't the best, but is very good? Or would you rather just
get what you like and can afford, and not delve into the underlying quality
and value? I've seen this go both ways when someone is shopping for an engagement
ring. Everyone has to make trade-offs between cost and size of stone and quality
of the diamond, not to mention style preferences.
Handbags can be even more confusing, since there are no industry standards to
judge quality of the leather objcetively, like there are for diamonds.
Watch some of this guys videos. He goes into detail about these luxury companies. He tried to get an Hermes, but the company wouldn't respond to him LOL. He bought one off of TRR.