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Hi Ladies. I am based in Europe and currently have a luxury bag stuck with a friend in the US. Long story short, it was bought in Fashionphile during the pandemic, right before International Shipping services were temporarily suspended. I had my friend who resides in the US, receive the bag on my behalf. Now I am asking my friend to mail the bag to me via DHL or FedEx. Has anyone have recent experiences, shipping used, but expensive bags from US to EU? I am still considering returning it, might be less hassle than holding my breath while I wait for the delivery van to arrive in my doorstep. I am willing not to have full value declared at shipping as I know I will have to pay hundreds, even close to a thousand Euro for taxes. I am aware of the risks also.
 
DHL, UPS and a bunch of others seem to operate as usual, due to less people traveling, there is actually more space available in planes, the only hurdle you could run in would be if it is exotic leather
 
DHL is the shipper for lots of European businesses who ship to the US. And I have found them to be very reliable, both to the US and returns to Europe.
 
Hi Ladies. I am based in Europe and currently have a luxury bag stuck with a friend in the US. Long story short, it was bought in Fashionphile during the pandemic, right before International Shipping services were temporarily suspended. I had my friend who resides in the US, receive the bag on my behalf. Now I am asking my friend to mail the bag to me via DHL or FedEx. Has anyone have recent experiences, shipping used, but expensive bags from US to EU? I am still considering returning it, might be less hassle than holding my breath while I wait for the delivery van to arrive in my doorstep. I am willing not to have full value declared at shipping as I know I will have to pay hundreds, even close to a thousand Euro for taxes. I am aware of the risks also.

Don't know if the bag is an easy find, but if the option to have your friend return the bag I'd consider that. JMO
 
Hi!

If you use any of the couriers (DHL, FedEx, UPS, (...) ) your friend needs to provide the original receipt of the purchase while creating the shipping label, so the parcel can clear customs while en route. (Not saying they are not going to inspect it, tough - but it's smoother with all paperwork submitted while creating & buying the shipping label)

Declaring lower value will most likely result in an interruption of service until the correct paperwork is submitted. Also, whatever you (your friend) declare is the amount you will get from insurance if something happens to the parcel. You can insure higher, but a) they won't pay, b) ask a lot of questions. ...

Be careful when shipping via UPS to an (business)-address that is connected to an existing UPS customer account. They will charge that account with the import fees/ customs duties automatically, and send the corresponding invoice to the account holder ... That can be a pain in the a** when your boss calls you and want's to know why they were billed your import fees/ customs duties.

Besides being "unlawful", this whole declaring lower value game does nothing good if you want fast & secure shipping. I put unlawful in "" because I think in the US it can land you in serious trouble if they go full extent, where as in Germany, on a private parcel, they don't care about it and simply ask for the original invoice/ proof of payment to calculate the correct amount ... I guess this varies from country to country.

To make it short, not a good idea for various reasons.

My advise:

DHL, submit all paperwork, declare correctly, pack well. One thing, use a term less specific than "handbag" on the customs form. Simply go with "Merchandise" or "leather goods". It's not a lie/ wrong declaration per se but it's unspecific enough to not necessarily catching the eye of parcel thieves. Using "handbag" and XXXX(X) Euro/USD is asking for the parcel being stolen.

If you don't feel comfortable with the whole ordeal, return.

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
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Thought about this intensively and it still is an option but Fashionphile will only refund about 85% :’( and no, almost cant find a bag in that price point here ..

There are many factors to be considered.. You mention that you possibly will have to spend $$$$$
does that all seem to be worth it to you considering that your friend will have to complete the paperwork
appropriately & accurately??
You are only getting the buyback of 85% because the time has passed for a return?
 
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You honestly shouldn't have much of an issue then, I would skip UPS (had a ton of issues with them) but FedEx, DPD and DHL are totally fine
Thank you :smile: i think ill go with DHL
Hi!

If you use any of the couriers (DHL, FedEx, UPS, (...) ) your friend needs to provide the original receipt of the purchase while creating the shipping label, so the parcel can clear customs while en route. (Not saying they are not going to inspect it, tough - but it's smoother with all paperwork submitted while creating & buying the shipping label)

Declaring lower value will most likely result in an interruption of service until the correct paperwork is submitted. Also, whatever you (your friend) declare is the amount you will get from insurance if something happens to the parcel. You can insure higher, but a) they won't pay, b) ask a lot of questions. ...

Be careful when shipping via UPS to an (business)-address that is connected to an existing UPS customer account. They will charge that account with the import fees/ customs duties automatically, and send the corresponding invoice to the account holder ... That can be a pain in the a** when your boss calls you and want's to know why they were billed your import fees/ customs duties.

Besides being "unlawful", this whole declaring lower value game does nothing good if you want fast & secure shipping. I put unlawful in "" because I think in the US it can land you in serious trouble if they go full extent, where as in Germany, on a private parcel, they don't care about it and simply ask for the original invoice/ proof of payment to calculate the correct amount ... I guess this varies from country to country.

To make it short, not a good idea for various reasons.

My advise:

DHL, submit all paperwork, declare correctly, pack well. One thing, use a term less specific than "handbag" on the customs form. Simply go with "Merchandise" or "leather goods". It's not a lie/ wrong declaration per se but it's unspecific enough to not necessarily catching the eye of parcel thieves. Using "handbag" and XXXX(X) Euro/USD is asking for the parcel being stolen.

If you don't feel comfortable with the whole ordeal, return.

Kind regards,
Oliver
Thanks Oliver, this is very helpful. And what about declaring it as a ‘gift’? Thoughts?
 
Hi!

Depends on where you are located and local customs regulations. In Germany (as recipient/addressee) gifts can be subject to 13% fixed rate (duty) instead of the otherwise applicable rate based on what product it is. Let's say you get a "goodie bag" from your friend for Christmas that exceeds the applicable threshold of 150 Euro for import duty: A T-Shirt, a bottle of wine, a coffee table book, some (importable) snacks/foodstuff ... Instead of finding out what the T-Shirt costs, adding the approx. 29% rate, and so on. They can simply go with the 13% over the total amount + VAT. In some cases this will be significantly cheaper.

The problem is proving it (getting customs to believe you ;) ), especially with pricey merchandise. This is really meant for close relatives/family sending you a real gift.

With an invoice in your name - this is born to fail. They treat it the same way as if you would have declared 100$ on a 1000$ item. They ask for the correct amount/invoice and proceed by treating it as the merchandise it is. Some try to go the "I don't have a invoice." route, which then leads to them researching the value. So if you bought this at a better price than what customs will find as MSRP, it's in your best interest to provide that invoice. ;) (Speaking solely for Germany!)

In the end, declaring it a gift, while it isn't/wasn't one - same situation as with under or not declaring. It will absolutely do no good in the process of shipping an item that will result in an anticipated four figure import fee.




I'm sorry, but over the years I've seen and heard it all - and that's what it comes down to. In the very early days of my intl. shipping I had established a good business relationship with an officer at my local customs office. There were a lot of things that we managed to "square away" by me being honest/ proving correct paperwork to my best ability, and the officer not nit picking to any painful extent. So this meant that if out of the many parcels I had, one would have "****ty paperwork" or - because of the relationships build abroad through the business I conducted - was a gift, she wouldn't make it any harder on me than absolutely necessary and/or give me a pass on it - based on my verbally declared (correct!) amount. She loved Oreos, so from time to time, my shipments from the US would contain a package or two, or new flavors/styles that weren't available in Germany. And they would magically stay at the customs office break room. In other words, it was a human experience and we knew each other by name. And just for the record, nothing unlawful ever happened.

With the raise of intl. shipping this is pretty much unthinkable these days - besides another customs office being responsible for my area now. And there, the officers go by the "full extent of the book" down to the last dot - any and every time. And I've witnessed the people the recipients trying: "it's a gift", "it's only worth 30 Euro", "but it's a genuine product" and other lengthy arguments that lead to nothing for the recipient. ... But I also witnessed customs officers nit picking to a painful extent, when merchandise was destroyed while inspecting it without any probable cause ...

That's why I simply rely on couriers now, for the few shipments I deal with these days, that deal with customs on my behalf and while the parcel is en route. No more headaches for me. ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
Hi!

Depends on where you are located and local customs regulations. In Germany (as recipient/addressee) gifts can be subject to 13% fixed rate (duty) instead of the otherwise applicable rate based on what product it is. Let's say you get a "goodie bag" from your friend for Christmas that exceeds the applicable threshold of 150 Euro for import duty: A T-Shirt, a bottle of wine, a coffee table book, some (importable) snacks/foodstuff ... Instead of finding out what the T-Shirt costs, adding the approx. 29% rate, and so on. They can simply go with the 13% over the total amount + VAT. In some cases this will be significantly cheaper.

The problem is proving it (getting customs to believe you ;) ), especially with pricey merchandise. This is really meant for close relatives/family sending you a real gift.

With an invoice in your name - this is born to fail. They treat it the same way as if you would have declared 100$ on a 1000$ item. They ask for the correct amount/invoice and proceed by treating it as the merchandise it is. Some try to go the "I don't have a invoice." route, which then leads to them researching the value. So if you bought this at a better price than what customs will find as MSRP, it's in your best interest to provide that invoice. ;) (Speaking solely for Germany!)

In the end, declaring it a gift, while it isn't/wasn't one - same situation as with under or not declaring. It will absolutely do no good in the process of shipping an item that will result in an anticipated four figure import fee.




I'm sorry, but over the years I've seen and heard it all - and that's what it comes down to. In the very early days of my intl. shipping I had established a good business relationship with an officer at my local customs office. There were a lot of things that we managed to "square away" by me being honest/ proving correct paperwork to my best ability, and the officer not nit picking to any painful extent. So this meant that if out of the many parcels I had, one would have "****ty paperwork" or - because of the relationships build abroad through the business I conducted - was a gift, she wouldn't make it any harder on me than absolutely necessary and/or give me a pass on it - based on my verbally declared (correct!) amount. She loved Oreos, so from time to time, my shipments from the US would contain a package or two, or new flavors/styles that weren't available in Germany. And they would magically stay at the customs office break room. In other words, it was a human experience and we knew each other by name. And just for the record, nothing unlawful ever happened.

With the raise of intl. shipping this is pretty much unthinkable these days - besides another customs office being responsible for my area now. And there, the officers go by the "full extent of the book" down to the last dot - any and every time. And I've witnessed the people the recipients trying: "it's a gift", "it's only worth 30 Euro", "but it's a genuine product" and other lengthy arguments that lead to nothing for the recipient. ... But I also witnessed customs officers nit picking to a painful extent, when merchandise was destroyed while inspecting it without any probable cause ...

That's why I simply rely on couriers now, for the few shipments I deal with these days, that deal with customs on my behalf and while the parcel is en route. No more headaches for me. ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver
Really appreciate this explanation Oliver, thank you! The thing is, the item is a used, velvet handbag and it wont come with any invoice because my friend received it around 8 mos ago. Long story short, she had to move to another state over the summer and had to discard the packaging. The merchant sent me an electronic copy of the receipt so i told my friend she can discard. She now literally only has the purse and will be sending it with small items because my birthday is coming up in a few weeks. Haha thank you!
 
I have found that DHL is very strict with paperwork. I have had 2 items held up coming from Europe to the US (both in the past week) because there was a discrepancy in the declared value vs the invoice. This is from a huge professional company who should know better (the problem both times was that the invoice included shipping and customs fees), while the declared value was for the item alone. Both times the item almost was sent back despite my protests because my copy of the invoice was not sufficient to clear up the issue. So perhaps do not count on a safe arrival via DHL unless your documentation is extremely accurate.
 
Hi!

Depends on where you are located and local customs regulations. In Germany (as recipient/addressee) gifts can be subject to 13% fixed rate (duty) instead of the otherwise applicable rate based on what product it is. Let's say you get a "goodie bag" from your friend for Christmas that exceeds the applicable threshold of 150 Euro for import duty: A T-Shirt, a bottle of wine, a coffee table book, some (importable) snacks/foodstuff ... Instead of finding out what the T-Shirt costs, adding the approx. 29% rate, and so on. They can simply go with the 13% over the total amount + VAT. In some cases this will be significantly cheaper.

The problem is proving it (getting customs to believe you ;) ), especially with pricey merchandise. This is really meant for close relatives/family sending you a real gift.

With an invoice in your name - this is born to fail. They treat it the same way as if you would have declared 100$ on a 1000$ item. They ask for the correct amount/invoice and proceed by treating it as the merchandise it is. Some try to go the "I don't have a invoice." route, which then leads to them researching the value. So if you bought this at a better price than what customs will find as MSRP, it's in your best interest to provide that invoice. ;) (Speaking solely for Germany!)

In the end, declaring it a gift, while it isn't/wasn't one - same situation as with under or not declaring. It will absolutely do no good in the process of shipping an item that will result in an anticipated four figure import fee.




I'm sorry, but over the years I've seen and heard it all - and that's what it comes down to. In the very early days of my intl. shipping I had established a good business relationship with an officer at my local customs office. There were a lot of things that we managed to "square away" by me being honest/ proving correct paperwork to my best ability, and the officer not nit picking to any painful extent. So this meant that if out of the many parcels I had, one would have "****ty paperwork" or - because of the relationships build abroad through the business I conducted - was a gift, she wouldn't make it any harder on me than absolutely necessary and/or give me a pass on it - based on my verbally declared (correct!) amount. She loved Oreos, so from time to time, my shipments from the US would contain a package or two, or new flavors/styles that weren't available in Germany. And they would magically stay at the customs office break room. In other words, it was a human experience and we knew each other by name. And just for the record, nothing unlawful ever happened.

With the raise of intl. shipping this is pretty much unthinkable these days - besides another customs office being responsible for my area now. And there, the officers go by the "full extent of the book" down to the last dot - any and every time. And I've witnessed the people the recipients trying: "it's a gift", "it's only worth 30 Euro", "but it's a genuine product" and other lengthy arguments that lead to nothing for the recipient. ... But I also witnessed customs officers nit picking to a painful extent, when merchandise was destroyed while inspecting it without any probable cause ...

That's why I simply rely on couriers now, for the few shipments I deal with these days, that deal with customs on my behalf and while the parcel is en route. No more headaches for me. ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver
Not from Germany, but very very very close :smile:
I have found that DHL is very strict with paperwork. I have had 2 items held up coming from Europe to the US (both in the past week) because there was a discrepancy in the declared value vs the invoice. This is from a huge professional company who should know better (the problem both times was that the invoice included shipping and customs fees), while the declared value was for the item alone. Both times the item almost was sent back despite my protests because my copy of the invoice was not sufficient to clear up the issue. So perhaps do not count on a safe arrival via DHL unless your documentation is extremely accurate.

Thank you for this info. Still weighing on whether to push through or not. The handbag will be sent as is, no packaging nor invoice. It’s a secondhand bag that ive purchased last February and my friend who currently has it, has moved, therefore, had to get rid of the packaging and invoice. I only have the soft copy of the invoice. Still considering having it sent as a gift, together with a few personal items she will send me.
 
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Really appreciate this explanation Oliver, thank you! The thing is, the item is a used, velvet handbag and it wont come with any invoice because my friend received it around 8 mos ago. Long story short, she had to move to another state over the summer and had to discard the packaging. The merchant sent me an electronic copy of the receipt so i told my friend she can discard. She now literally only has the purse and will be sending it with small items because my birthday is coming up in a few weeks. Haha thank you!

Go with velvet bag and since your bday is coming up, tell her to make sure to put in card, with your bday on file, other goods and it all, it is very plausible. People do send presents all the time, whenever I was in the US I often bought mom handbags and sent them as gifts, I usually took them out of the packaging and included a t-shirt or something like that, mom is in Germany, we never had an issue. I was chancing it a bit as if they would have disappeared, it would have been lost with no compensation.
 
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