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Here is my mini flamenco and the strap weirdness! I love the bag so much though! Also pictured with my mini puzzle:smile:
Thank you for this! I’m glad I’m not the only one with the problem. I also love mine and will deal with the strap or just use another strap to change it up. Btw, which do you reach for more? The mini flamenco or mini puzzle? I’m contemplating a puzzle too ... but unsure which size. I know the mini holds significantly less than the small.
 
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I have the first version of the XS military messenger, where it's actual buckles rather than the magnetic closures that you have on yours, and the strap is adjusted using two D rings on each side. It's a nice bag with great leather (as always for Loewe) but rather hard to get in and out of, so I think your version is a great improvement! Enjoy the bag!

I noticed the difference last night when I was trying to see how the other colors looked. I actually liked the old strap better as it made it look more unique. I definitely would’ve been annoyed though if I actually did have to use the buckles instead of the magnetic closure. I’m still undecided whether I want to keep the black or exchange it for the tan. Decision, decisions..
 
My order from 24S came much sooner than expected. Here’s my last bag purchase for the year! I wanted another puzzle and have been stalking a few websites this past week or so, but I figured I can’t go wrong with a different silhouette. I’m glad to have purchased this as it’s more utilitarian and totally gives a different vibe.

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Congratulations, it has an elegant, stylist but fresh and informal architecture for a medium size messenger. I think that should work fine from elegant to informal depending on the rest of the outfit. Moreover, it looks perfect for any gender and age. I actually were looking at the model but on messenger model, I use big sizes. Enjoy your new bag!
 
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The Flamenco colour is really lovely. Is this Warm Desert?
And I love seeing your Puzzle and Flamenco cousins together - Loewe classics :heart:
Hi! Yes, it is Warm Desert. So stunning in real life. The leather is amazing. Similar to the Bottega Veneta pouch smooshy leather<3
Yes, the two minis are fun! The colors are both fulfilling my craving for low key brown and Carmel bags.
 
Thank you for this! I’m glad I’m not the only one with the problem. I also love mine and will deal with the strap or just use another strap to change it up. Btw, which do you reach for more? The mini flamenco or mini puzzle? I’m contemplating a puzzle too ... but unsure which size. I know the mini holds significantly less than the small.
You’re welcome! I actually haven’t worn either yet because of all this new variant madness:)
I bought the small size, but sent it back. It is really great. It does stick out a bit when worn as a crossbody.
I ended up with the mini because it sticks out less, and I love mini bags. It actually holds quite a bit. My LV mini pochette or Chanel mini O case, cell phone, key case and probably one more small item.
 
Is yours an older model? I wonder why the changed the design of the strap To this weird style. :biggrin:

Yes mine is an older model from 2016-2017. It has similar adjustable straps to carry on shoulder or crossbody but the metal knobs are on both sides of the straps. It looks like this:

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I wonder too! The only reason I can think of is that they changed the strap to work with this new mini size but who knows!
 
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Does anyone have or used to have the older amazona 23? I really love the newly released amazonas but I’ve seen a few preloved ones in great condition and in more colours!
I have an Amazona 23 in the classic Golden suede and dark brown calfskin but it is not old. It is quite new from Dec 2020, last one year old. However, I tried for almost 6 months to get one available , calling Paris, Madrid and more when I started thinking that that classic model in 23 cm ( that is a very comfortable small size compared to the original bigger Amazona) will not be available very long. I just gave up when suddenly one piece arrived to my local Loewe shop. I could not be more happy when I saw it in Loewe when I was there in my way to buy a different model because I has accepted that I would never get my Amazona 23 golden brown. It was one of those serendipity moments.

I love that classic Amazona model, it is one the handbag design that I consider essential in a handbag collection. It is an unique reinvention from the doctorbag with a revolutionary view from the 70s. But it is not a 70s bag anyway, it is atemporal. It is made with this high quality suede that is only made in one place in the world and it made it flexible, light but lyxurious.

I have not tested the new models but I guess are a bit less flexible as are made in nappa calfskin or grainded calfskin. From those 2 leather types, I would prefer nappa. The advantage of those type of leathers is that are hard to get damaged. The colors are adorable, I think.

Regarding to the 23cm model and the shoulder strap that is adjustable and perfect for crossbody. Howevet I prefer to feel the handbag shorter under my arm so I passed the strap through the ring in one side and lock both closures to one side (the strap get as doubled) and perfect to my style.

I hope you would find one Amazona that fits you, new or pre-loved.
 
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I have an Amazona 23 in the classic Golden suede and dark brown calfskin but it is not old. It is quite new from Dec 2020, last one year old. However, I tried for almost 6 months to get one available , calling Paris, Madrid and more when I started thinking that that classic model in 23 cm ( that is a very comfortable small size compared to the original bigger Amazona) will not be available very long. I just gave up when suddenly one piece arrived to my local Loewe shop. I could not be more happy when I saw it in Loewe when I was there in my way to buy a different model because I has accepted that I would never get my Amazona 23 golden brown. It was one of those serendipity moments.

I love that classic Amazona model, it is one the handbag design that I consider essential in a handbag collection. It is an unique reinvention from the doctorbag with a revolutionary view from the 70s. But it is not a 70s bag anyway, it is atemporal. It is made with this high quality suede that is only made in one place in the world and it made it flexible, light but lyxurious.

I have not tested the new models but I guess are a bit less flexible as are made in nappa calfskin or grainded calfskin. From those 2 leather types, I would prefer nappa. The advantage of those type of leathers is that are hard to get damaged. The colors are adorable, I think.

Regarding to the 23cm model and the shoulder strap that is adjustable and perfect for crossbody. Howevet I prefer to feel the handbag shorter under my arm so I passed the strap through the ring in one side and lock both closures to one side (the strap get as doubled) and perfect to my style.

I hope you would find one Amazona that fits you, new or pre-loved.

Thank you this is so helpful! I haven’t seen the new models in person either but based on the photos I think you are correct as they do appear stiffer than the previous models. I’m so glad you found your bag!
 
Thank you this is so helpful! I haven’t seen the new models in person either but based on the photos I think you are correct as they do appear stiffer than the previous models. I’m so glad you found your bag!
I’ve not seen the older models of the Amazona, but I’ve tried the new 23 in store in sand color and it’s divine! The leather is substantial and thick without being stiff. It’s still a structured bag but feels smoosh to the touch. I love it too! Hence my dilemma of the Atlantic blue small puzzle vs the sand 23 Amazona. Help?! :biggrin:
 
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I’ve not seen the older models of the Amazona, but I’ve tried the new 23 in store in sand color and it’s divine! The leather is substantial and thick without being stiff. It’s still a structured bag but feels smoosh to the touch. I love it too! Hence my dilemma of the Atlantic blue small puzzle vs the sand 23 Amazona. Help?! :biggrin:

ooo it sounds lovely! I just checked Loewe’s site and I see they’ve added some “soft grained calfskin” amazonas like the sand one you’re describing! I can’t wait to see the new bags in person :D the older models are very soft and less structured. I do like the small updates JW has made to the bag. Both old and new look great. Here’s an example: https://www.thefifthcollection.com/products/loewe-bolso-amazona-23-bag

As for the dilemma, it’s definitely hard with Loewe’s choices! I’d say to go for the puzzle first :) the Atlantic blue is so pretty and the puzzle has become the classic Loewe bag. It’s such a functional, long lasting bag. I do like the amazona as well but I can’t say it offers more than the puzzle. I have a sand/mink puzzle and hope to add an avocado green one soon. Of course go with what you love, and both bags are awesome choices :D Have fun!
 
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I have an Amazona 23 in the classic Golden suede and dark brown calfskin but it is not old. It is quite new from Dec 2020, last one year old. However, I tried for almost 6 months to get one available , calling Paris, Madrid and more when I started thinking that that classic model in 23 cm ( that is a very comfortable small size compared to the original bigger Amazona) will not be available very long. I just gave up when suddenly one piece arrived to my local Loewe shop. I could not be more happy when I saw it in Loewe when I was there in my way to buy a different model because I has accepted that I would never get my Amazona 23 golden brown. It was one of those serendipity moments.

I love that classic Amazona model, it is one the handbag design that I consider essential in a handbag collection. It is an unique reinvention from the doctorbag with a revolutionary view from the 70s. But it is not a 70s bag anyway, it is atemporal. It is made with this high quality suede that is only made in one place in the world and it made it flexible, light but lyxurious.

I have not tested the new models but I guess are a bit less flexible as are made in nappa calfskin or grainded calfskin. From those 2 leather types, I would prefer nappa. The advantage of those type of leathers is that are hard to get damaged. The colors are adorable, I think.

Regarding to the 23cm model and the shoulder strap that is adjustable and perfect for crossbody. Howevet I prefer to feel the handbag shorter under my arm so I passed the strap through the ring in one side and lock both closures to one side (the strap get as doubled) and perfect to my style.

I hope you would find one Amazona that fits you, new or pre-loved.
I am not at home those days to check the size of my model and I thought that was mine the medium was the smallest in the market. I was wrong. Now I realized that the original Amazona is 36 cm, so I was wrong about the size of mine, my model should be 28 cm and not as small as 23cm, I guess they have not made the suede model in that small size. Sorry but the rest of the comments were correct. You should be correct that the size 23 cm were not in the market in last years. There is a video somewhere about a back amazona 23 cm,( now I remember) and it is from around 2018 summer and it is smaller than mine. Apologizes.
 
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I am not at home those days to check the size of my model and I thought that was mine the medium was the smallest in the market. I was wrong. Now I realized that the original Amazona is 36 cm, so I was wrong about the size of mine, my model should be 28 cm and not as small as 23cm, I guess they have not made the suede model in that small size. Sorry but the rest of the comments were correct. You should be correct that the size 23 cm were not in the market in last years. There is a video somewhere about a back amazona 23 cm,( now I remember) and it is from around 2018 summer and it is smaller than mine. Apologizes.

no need to apologize! Thank you for all the helpful info. I found an old fashionphile listing for the gold suede 23 so it does seem like they did produce it: https://www.fashionphile.com/p/loewe-suede-calfskin-amazona-23-gold-brown-402953
 
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