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The one on the left (the one they sent you recently? Imma just give my opinion using my eyeballs XD) is grained calf leather and the right is what Loewe calls "classic calf" - don't worry about the serial numbers too much, they've changed a lot and depend on the artisan (most recent Puzzles only have one tag, older have had two but I haven't gotten one with two in a hot minute).

What's weird to me is...they're honestly completely different products, because of the leather, this is very weird of Saks. What also throws me is the left is obviously a used and returned bag, judging from the handle and slouch? I'd keep the right (classic calf) as the structure is nice, the handle looks right and the stamping can change as they are handmade. If you use a conditioner, you won't get scratches/Loewe has care centres or will recommend one in your area if asked.

Anyone else have ideas? I'm running to look at my Puzzles now...XD


Thanks for your thoughts! When I said second, I was referring to the second order. I’m sorry I made this so confusing! In the picture with both bags, the one on the right is the used one. Which is also the classic calf. The one on the left is the new and pristine one, that looks like a grained leather. I’m puzzled as to how they are the same bags, but the leather looks so different! Another question is, is the handle of your puzzle stiff and maintains its shape? Or does it flatten out once you lay the on a flat surface?
 
Thanks for your thoughts! When I said second, I was referring to the second order. I’m sorry I made this so confusing! In the picture with both bags, the one on the right is the used one. Which is also the classic calf. The one on the left is the new and pristine one, that looks like a grained leather. I’m puzzled as to how they are the same bags, but the leather looks so different! Another question is, is the handle of your puzzle stiff and maintains its shape? Or does it flatten out once you lay the on a flat surface?

They tend to make the single colour bags in different leathers as people prefer different finishes (ie I HATE the epi leather LV and Ferragamo use), so it's literally a different bag (as in the Saks stock number would be different! /ex luxe retail), which is boggling to me. I think they may have just grabbed it without actually cross-checking, due to the colour.

My handles are slightly slouched but they haven't "deflated" as much as the one in your picture, the grained leather. I wear mine crossbody, though - the grained leather just screams "return" to me. The leather is softer with grained, but the handle is very structured and just looks off to me. I'm sorry if this seems nit-picky!! You should go with whichever you like better, but I'd def have a word with Saks as they did send you a completely different leather/product. This is just from my experience in luxury retail (rhymes with...flannel LMAO), where all leathers were inventoried differently.

I'm sure the rest of the gang here will chime in and give advice! I hope! XD

EDIT: these were the only two I could find without going through boxes (no comments that we moved in November ok....), the orange is from late last year? Pink is about two years old. Both are well used, the orange is probably my go-to bag so has been used a lot.
 

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I think I saw an Amazona (one of the smaller sizes), an Elephant Mini bag, and they had the medium or large Electric Blue with Black Hammock.

I think there was another style too, but I can’t remember. I should have taken a few spy photos!

The Puzzle, T Crossbody, Amazona, og Flamenco and Vega all came in Electric Blue, and there were a few animals in both sizes. Last year, maybe? Or 2017. There was an electric blue bunny in the Macrame collection, too.

EDIT: whoops @enshogirl beat me to the punch! Ignore XD
The Puzzle, T Crossbody, Amazona, og Flamenco and Vega all came in Electric Blue, and there were a few animals in both sizes. Last year, maybe? Or 2017. There was an electric blue bunny in the Macrame collection, too.

EDIT: whoops @enshogirl beat me to the punch! Ignore XD
 
The one on the left (the one they sent you recently? Imma just give my opinion using my eyeballs XD) is grained calf leather and the right is what Loewe calls "classic calf" - don't worry about the serial numbers too much, they've changed a lot and depend on the artisan (most recent Puzzles only have one tag, older have had two but I haven't gotten one with two in a hot minute).

What's weird to me is...they're honestly completely different products, because of the leather, this is very weird of Saks. What also throws me is the left is obviously a used and returned bag, judging from the handle and slouch? I'd keep the right (classic calf) as the structure is nice, the handle looks right and the stamping can change as they are handmade. If you use a conditioner, you won't get scratches/Loewe has care centres or will recommend one in your area if asked.

Anyone else have ideas? I'm running to look at my Puzzles now...XD
I agree with you about the different leather (left-grained calf, right-classic calf). I would also go with the right as I like smooshy leather. Of course, you could also call Saks and see if you could get a replacement of the left grained calf bag if structured leather is more your thing.

By the way, piecesofalice, do you have a leather conditioner you recommend?
 
Found a Loewe concession in a department store near me. Was finally able to look at several bags with the help of a very patient S.A.

As I’ve discovered there is a massive variety between individual basket bags. There were three larges in the shop - no other sizes. All quite different from each other but all smaller than the large I’d received. I’ve now got 3 and need to send both the medium and large bought online back.

I’ll be keeping the middle one bought in store as it’s a better size and the weave is good. Both it and the one on the right are the “same” size - a large. My advice is to avoid buying online as these really are unique pieces! I’m happy at last!

That so cool. And amazing to see the differences within the same size! I am always considering the M (playing it against the Dior book tote right now, I know, huge difference specially in price! :P). To me the M is the more proportionate and versatile, in terms of using it beyond the beach and also in the city to go to the market or whatever. But I agree with you on the necessity of a big basket for the beach if you have a family. I keep a humongous one in my Summer place and it is so much easier, but it is a drag to take it traveling, and I like to travel light.
 
I agree with you about the different leather (left-grained calf, right-classic calf). I would also go with the right as I like smooshy leather. Of course, you could also call Saks and see if you could get a replacement of the left grained calf bag if structured leather is more your thing.

By the way, piecesofalice, do you have a leather conditioner you recommend?

It’s only the flap that seems like it’s grained. The body of the bag seems to be classic calf. It’s so weird! And about asking Saks for a replacement, it’s the last piece in the country! So no chance I can get another one, and have to decide between the two. Here is a picture of the “deflated” handle, like piecesofalice said. I certainly do not like the feel of how the leather bounces back downwards everytime I lay it down. I prefer a stiffer handle, it feels more substantial. The last pic shows the flap of the “grained calf” to have some warping. I’m not sure if this is normal and will ease up after some use. Also, “classic calf” one has some scratches, and the logo seems to have a scratch on it! Which is bothering me, and I’m not sure if I will be able to get past that. Both bags have issues but I’m leaning towards the “classic calf”. Thanks for reading and tending to me indecisive nature!
 

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They tend to make the single colour bags in different leathers as people prefer different finishes (ie I HATE the epi leather LV and Ferragamo use), so it's literally a different bag (as in the Saks stock number would be different! /ex luxe retail), which is boggling to me. I think they may have just grabbed it without actually cross-checking, due to the colour.

My handles are slightly slouched but they haven't "deflated" as much as the one in your picture, the grained leather. I wear mine crossbody, though - the grained leather just screams "return" to me. The leather is softer with grained, but the handle is very structured and just looks off to me. I'm sorry if this seems nit-picky!! You should go with whichever you like better, but I'd def have a word with Saks as they did send you a completely different leather/product. This is just from my experience in luxury retail (rhymes with...flannel LMAO), where all leathers were inventoried differently.

I'm sure the rest of the gang here will chime in and give advice! I hope! XD

EDIT: these were the only two I could find without going through boxes (no comments that we moved in November ok....), the orange is from late last year? Pink is about two years old. Both are well used, the orange is probably my go-to bag so has been used a lot.
Sorry this comes in so many posts. I’m still getting the hang of posting replies. Beautiful bags, piecesofalice!! I love both of them!! The colors are so yummy. I want an orange one like that. Is that the grained leather? Which leather do you prefer more? I really dislike epi leather too. I usually prefer grained leather, but Loewe’s classic calf looks so buttery, I’m just worried about scratches since my 1 year old has been taking a liking to my bags!!
 
It’s only the flap that seems like it’s grained. The body of the bag seems to be classic calf. It’s so weird! And about asking Saks for a replacement, it’s the last piece in the country! So no chance I can get another one, and have to decide between the two. Here is a picture of the “deflated” handle, like piecesofalice said. I certainly do not like the feel of how the leather bounces back downwards everytime I lay it down. I prefer a stiffer handle, it feels more substantial. The last pic shows the flap of the “grained calf” to have some warping. I’m not sure if this is normal and will ease up after some use. Also, “classic calf” one has some scratches, and the logo seems to have a scratch on it! Which is bothering me, and I’m not sure if I will be able to get past that. Both bags have issues but I’m leaning towards the “classic calf”. Thanks for reading and tending to me indecisive nature!
I'd return both and find the perfect bag. I received so many crappy scratched/returned bags from Saks that I stopped buying from them. There are more Loewe in the world and I'm sure you can find a great deal somewhere. My point is for the price the bag should be perfect and make you happy, nothing should bother you.
 
I'd return both and find the perfect bag. I received so many crappy scratched/returned bags from Saks that I stopped buying from them. There are more Loewe in the world and I'm sure you can find a great deal somewhere. My point is for the price the bag should be perfect and make you happy, nothing should bother you.
I agree. You absolutely deserve to get a bag in perfect condition as you are buying new. Sorry you had such a bad experience.
 
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I'm feeling very confused.

This tan puzzle bag is described as classic calf, which looks to be more of a smooth leather with a slight texture. The soft grained leather looks like it's more textured and has slight pebbling. However, upon looking at the mini puzzle bag, all of which are described to be classic calf leather, it looks a lot more textured and similar to the soft grained leather, unlike the first link of the tan puzzle bag in "classic calf".

Does anyone know if the "classic calf" used for the bigger puzzle bags and the mini are the same? Is it just the pictures that are misleading? I looked on different sites and the classic calf on the bigger puzzle bags definitely looked smoother to me.
 
By the way, piecesofalice, do you have a leather conditioner you recommend?

The one Coach sells is awesome! Idk what is in it, but it's never ruined a bag and it's pretty cheap!

Sorry this comes in so many posts. I’m still getting the hang of posting replies. Beautiful bags, piecesofalice!! I love both of them!! The colors are so yummy. I want an orange one like that. Is that the grained leather? Which leather do you prefer more? I really dislike epi leather too. I usually prefer grained leather, but Loewe’s classic calf looks so buttery, I’m just worried about scratches since my 1 year old has been taking a liking to my bags!!

Thank you!! The orange is my baby as I love orange and have waaaaayyyy too many orange bags, but I use them at least! I saw it while in Hong Kong, but my regular SA already had it for me when I got home XD I like both the grained and the calf but most of my collection seems to be the classic calf or classic napa so I guess maybe subconsciously I have a preference?? And I honestly haven't had many issues with scratches that are of a massive deal - I'm thinking to some of my much older bags, like the very soft OG Flamencos and they even look like I bought them yesterday (and I am ROUGH on my bags). Loewe became #1 in my book probably for this reason.

I'd return both and find the perfect bag. I received so many crappy scratched/returned bags from Saks that I stopped buying from them. There are more Loewe in the world and I'm sure you can find a great deal somewhere. My point is for the price the bag should be perfect and make you happy, nothing should bother you.

Preach!

I'm feeling very confused.

This tan puzzle bag is described as classic calf, which looks to be more of a smooth leather with a slight texture. The soft grained leather looks like it's more textured and has slight pebbling. However, upon looking at the mini puzzle bag, all of which are described to be classic calf leather, it looks a lot more textured and similar to the soft grained leather, unlike the first link of the tan puzzle bag in "classic calf".

Does anyone know if the "classic calf" used for the bigger puzzle bags and the mini are the same? Is it just the pictures that are misleading? I looked on different sites and the classic calf on the bigger puzzle bags definitely looked smoother to me.

This is def classic calf, the cobbling in textured calf is very noticeable. And I'm pretty sure they are the same leather, Loewe is pretty consistent with Puzzles (and most things, except for the handwoven baskets of late!).
 
The one Coach sells is awesome! Idk what is in it, but it's never ruined a bag and it's pretty cheap!



Thank you!! The orange is my baby as I love orange and have waaaaayyyy too many orange bags, but I use them at least! I saw it while in Hong Kong, but my regular SA already had it for me when I got home XD I like both the grained and the calf but most of my collection seems to be the classic calf or classic napa so I guess maybe subconsciously I have a preference?? And I honestly haven't had many issues with scratches that are of a massive deal - I'm thinking to some of my much older bags, like the very soft OG Flamencos and they even look like I bought them yesterday (and I am ROUGH on my bags). Loewe became #1 in my book probably for this reason.



Preach!



This is def classic calf, the cobbling in textured calf is very noticeable. And I'm pretty sure they are the same leather, Loewe is pretty consistent with Puzzles (and most things, except for the handwoven baskets of late!).
Thank you for confirming!
 
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