Scarves: Ironing/Framing Question

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#16
Thank you ladies for all of your help. Wow the museum textile mount sounds very expensive indeed. Perhaps I should have thought this project through before purchasing all the scarves :thinkin: Well I will definitely have to ask my framer too see if they have ever done such a thing and how much this is going to set me back since I want to have all 5 scarves individually framed.
 
#17
Dreamdoll thanks for posting the DIY link. It looks really great and cost effective. Does anyone know if magnets are bad for silk? Odd question I know. Perhaps I can back the magnet with a thin piece of felt so that it doesn't touch the silk. I will have to look into this.
 
#18
Most welcome! That's an excellent idea to back it with a thin piece of felt, and it's easy to glue it right on :smile1:

AnythingHermes said:
Dreamdoll thanks for posting the DIY link. It looks really great and cost effective. Does anyone know if magnets are bad for silk? Odd question I know. Perhaps I can back the magnet with a thin piece of felt so that it doesn't touch the silk. I will have to look into this.
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#20
I went to a few framers with regards to framing silks and didn't like the idea of them potentially gluing or ripping my pochette in any way. In the end I did it myself. I bought a frame from ikea, an acid free mount (cut to size) from an Art shop and some acid free backing paper. I then carefully ironed out just the creases in the pochette by placing a muslin cloth over the top. I took a needle and thread and gently tacked the pochette to the backing paper gently stretching it out as i go. I made sure the tacks were actually just under the rolled hems so you can't see the stitches. The last step is to put the whole thing in a frame with the mount around the edges and voila! Call me cheap but I think it looks pretty good and my pochette is just fine with no potential rips and marks!
 

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#21
What a lovely idea and it looks amazing! Will be great if you can post this in the DIY thread too :smile1:

Syma said:
I went to a few framers with regards to framing silks and didn't like the idea of them potentially gluing or ripping my pochette in any way. In the end I did it myself. I bought a frame from ikea, an acid free mount (cut to size) from an Art shop and some acid free backing paper. I then carefully ironed out just the creases in the pochette by placing a muslin cloth over the top. I took a needle and thread and gently tacked the pochette to the backing paper gently stretching it out as i go. I made sure the tacks were actually just under the rolled hems so you can't see the stitches. The last step is to put the whole thing in a frame with the mount around the edges and voila! Call me cheap but I think it looks pretty good and my pochette is just fine with no potential rips and marks!
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#22
Good job, Syma!

Look great!! :flowers:

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#24
dreamdoll said:
Most welcome! That's an excellent idea to back it with a thin piece of felt, and it's easy to glue it right on :smile1:
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oh NO!! Please don't put glue anywhere near the silk. Not unless you know for sure that it won't cause problems for the fabric. Most glues aren't archivally suitable at all.

And DIY is okay if you don't want to keep the scarf long-term. If you put the glass within a half an inch of the textile, you're risking the textile rotting fairly quickly. If you don't care, if you're planning on tossing the scarf in a few years anyway, then go for it. If you want to preserve the textile, though, you have to keep the glass and the fabric from coming in contact with each other.
 
#25
Opps, I meant glue the felt right on to the magnet, before holding the silk up with 2 magnets, and definitely not have the glue anywhere near the silk! :p

Thanks for the tip on the glass, which is why I used the Ikea frame that had the glass an inch away from the board...

gga said:
oh NO!! Please don't put glue anywhere near the silk. Not unless you know for sure that it won't cause problems for the fabric. Most glues aren't archivally suitable at all.

And DIY is okay if you don't want to keep the scarf long-term. If you put the glass within a half an inch of the textile, you're risking the textile rotting fairly quickly. If you don't care, if you're planning on tossing the scarf in a few years anyway, then go for it. If you want to preserve the textile, though, you have to keep the glass and the fabric from coming in contact with each other.
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dreamdoll said:
Opps, I meant glue the felt right on to the magnet, before holding the silk up with 2 magnets, and definitely not have the glue anywhere near the silk! :p

Thanks for the tip on the glass, which is why I used the Ikea frame that had the glass an inch away from the board...
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I guess maybe I'm not envisioning what you're saying? What I think you're saying is to glue the felt to the magnets, then put the glued-felt magnets on either side of the silk twill to hold it. If so, then the glue will be close enough to the silk to potentially rot or discolor it, even though the glue is on the magnet side, not the silk side. Even fumes or off-gassing can do major damage. It's why I never let my collectors keep their silver in ziploc bags. The plastic off-gasses and seriously discolors (and in some cases disfigures) the metal. Textiles are far more fragile than silver, and silk can be exceptionally susceptible to breakdown.

That being said, I do realize that in this case we're talking about items produced in reasonably decent quantities that don't cost the earth. With that in mind, as long as the buyer knows the risks she's taking in framing, this isn't something that requires the same level of care as a 16th c. sampler, say.

Good to know about the Ikea frame. Thanks!
 
#29
Well, I haven't tried out what the OP has said about the felt being glued to the magnets then putting two such magnets to either side to hold it, what I have done previously was simply to use two main magnets to hold up my silk. Imho, it has been fine.

I suppose a good disclaimer would be that I am no expert on framing, and I did my DIY just in the name of fun (so that I could change my gavroches anytime I wanted through various Ikea frames round my small apartment).

I do appreciate you highlighting the risks, thank you, and a good point regarding silver in ziploc bags. :tup:
An exquisite framing method could work, the H fixation kit could work, a cheap fun DIY way can also work...To each its own :flowers:


gga said:
I guess maybe I'm not envisioning what you're saying? What I think you're saying is to glue the felt to the magnets, then put the glued-felt magnets on either side of the silk twill to hold it. If so, then the glue will be close enough to the silk to potentially rot or discolor it, even though the glue is on the magnet side, not the silk side. Even fumes or off-gassing can do major damage. It's why I never let my collectors keep their silver in ziploc bags. The plastic off-gasses and seriously discolors (and in some cases disfigures) the metal. Textiles are far more fragile than silver, and silk can be exceptionally susceptible to breakdown.

That being said, I do realize that in this case we're talking about items produced in reasonably decent quantities that don't cost the earth. With that in mind, as long as the buyer knows the risks she's taking in framing, this isn't something that requires the same level of care as a 16th c. sampler, say.

Good to know about the Ikea frame. Thanks!
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