Alexander Wang rocco vs coco

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nope, they just had to change names for copyright reasons i believe

Yes that is correct, there was information posted (somewhere) in the AW forum that was incorrect about the name changes. They were NOT different bags, AW had to change the name "Coco" to "Rocco" because of copyright reasons (that of the Coco Chanel brand)

But yeah- the bags are EXACTLY the same- same size, same colour, same material, same studs, etc...

Newer versions now have different studs so buyers have the options of the original ridged studs or the tiered "cupcake" studs but BOTH are Rocco bags,

Hope this helps :D
 
This was the information that i was referring to in the "Welcome to Alexander Wang! Please read me FIRST for AW Basics & FAQs!" as written by a mod which is (unfortunately) incorrect:

Q. What is the difference between a Rocco and a Coco?
The "Coco" was the original AW duffel bag. It came in black and has brass studs. The "Rocco" came out shortly after and had silver hardware. Now there is a new Rocco on the market with Black studs. In the beginning Brass = Coco // Silver/ Black= Rocco. Now they are all called Rocco due to legal reasons.

I don't believe there was ever a "Rocco" name until they had to change the name as a whole due to copyright reasons...
 
^ Nope, that's not true. The Rocco came out while the Coco was still being released. The difference was the hardware.. Then they changed them all to Rocco.

ETA: I bought my Coco long after the Rocco was being released both on AW websites and other boutiques. If you look back to the beginning of the AW threads you'll see that both bags were being released. The silver hardware is what made them different.
 
^ Nope, that's not true. The Rocco came out while the Coco was still being released. The difference was the hardware.. Then they changed them all to Rocco.

Was that fact or just speculation? I don't see anywhere that the brass studs version was Coco and silver studs version was Rocco... :confused1:

Infact during the transition of changing the name from Coco to Rocco and the websites attempting to catch up with the name change i only ever saw a few confused posters GUESSING that it was different names for different studs but that was just guesswork and not proven fact, no?

I only ask because i like stated facts rather than guesses so if there is any documentation to prove it then i would be so glad so i can have my own piece of mind, lol! :flowers:
 
^ Do you have any documentation proving your theory? I'm going off of what I saw for months, not only on the AW website but all others as well. I could be wrong and don't have facts, such a letter from the company obviously, but this is the info that all the websites, magazines etc.. gave us for months.

Why do you assume that all the posters are confused and that you are right? Do you have inside knowledge or are you just guessing as well?
 
I don't see anywhere that the brass studs version was Coco and silver studs version was Rocco... :confused1:

Well, I can't point it out to you now that all of the bags are called Rocco (obviously) but in the beginning the gold studded bags were always listed as Coco (on all websites/ stores) and the silver studded bags were called Rocco. The Rocco was introduced in the 2nd season. The Coco was still being produced in the 2nd season as well.
 
Back in the "Alexander Wang Rocco duffle bag" on page 28 poster "gidramom" informed posters that website "Mick Margo" was doing pre-orders for the COCO duffle bag.
On page 29 poster "imlvholic" posted information that the particular COCO on the Mick margo site for pre-order was black with SILVER studs...

Seriously- i didn't mean to be rude to you, i only know of what i read- which seemed to be a lot of speculation regarding the name change and posters seemed inclined to think it was because the silver studded version had a different name but then became confused again when all sites re-listing the original black/brass version called it ROCCO also...
I just like clarification for my own piece of mind....

There is seriously no need for a huge debate or even sarcasm, i am just one of those people that like to know things for sure rather than just ASSUME something, that's all :D
 
^ I did not speak with any sarcasm, I was genuinely curious if you had info. If you read any tone in my posts it probably has to do with your using of caps. It comes off as shouting.

Anyway, I've sent an email to AW for clarification as well as to the top authenticators. All I am going off of was the info listed on the AW website many months back, which was gold studded bags were Cocos and silver were Roccos. Perhaps they didn't have their stock organized :shrugs:

ETA: Also, you say that you don't like to "ASSUME" anything yet you're answering posts above as fact based off "what you read". How is that any different that what I am doing? All we can do here is answer people to the best of our ability. Sometimes we're wrong and hopefully more often then not, we're correct. There is no reason to shout or insinuate that people are confused or guessing. We're all trying to figure it out together.
 
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Hey, I guess it is all apples and oranges, we can both have differing opinions and still get along, right?

I use caps when i emphasize words :D

I think that all that matters is that ALL of the duffle bags are now "Roccos" so at least the poster has had her original question answered unanimously.
 
Ps on Aug 25th 2009 (page 35) poster "fashion1sta" posted that Mick Margo had the "Coco" duffle for sale (black with silver studs) and only 2 were left, so maybe it was just an error with Mick Margo then, who knows....
 
^ I am hoping that AW will not ignore my question and get back to us so we can know the truth once and for all. I never saw anything that specifically stated which bag was which but when I was shopping around for my first Coco bag I scoured the internet for months and would often look on aw.com daily, to drool over the bags. At this time they had both cocos and Roccos listed and the only difference I could see was the studs.

I would have to imagine that if the Rocco name was born from a legal battle they would have switched everything at the same time.. Not sure why they'd release the Coco and the Rocco simultaneously. Who knows why anyone does anything though :shrugs:

I'll let y'all know what I hear back.
 
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