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#811
CinthiaZ said:
Actually, that is not the case. Companies like Michael Kors and most designer brands, are government regulated. All their materials are government approved, So are labor conditions, ALL of it! Counterfeits on the other hand are NOT restricted or monitored by ANY government agencies. They use lead based dyes, and all kind of poisonous materials that have not been approved by any government agencies! Why do you think designer handbags cost so much, and fakes don't??? It's because the counterfeiters do not have to use the same regulated high quality products, that the designers do! They also don't have to pay at least minimum wage. Michael Kors are most CERTAINLY NOT, using child slave labor. I suggest you do some research about the difference. It is huge!
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Which government? The US government has no jurisdiction over Chinese factories. And what agencies? What's the name of them?
Michael Kors source their leather from factories where people get sick from the production of the leather.
 
#812
nexiv said:
Which government? The US government has no jurisdiction over Chinese factories. And what agencies? What's the name of them?
Michael Kors source their leather from factories where people get sick from the production of the leather.
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I guess you didn't open the links i sent you. The names of the government agencies are listed, and since MK is an American company, they still have to meet USA standards for materials and labor, or they can not legally sell they products in this country. The counterfeiters are selling their goods here, ILLEGALLY. Many are arrested, all the time.

I see you are correct, the links wouldn't open for some reason. Try these


http://investors.michaelkors.com/fi...ments/Code-of-Business-Conduct-and-Ethics.pdf

http://investors.michaelkors.com/files/doc_downloads/Code-of-Conduct-(as-of-July-17-2014).pdf


In case you can't open the second one which directly relates, I have copied and pasted the information for you below. It specifically addresses child labor.



MICHAEL KORS HOLDINGS LIMITED AND SUBSIDIARIES
CODE OF CONDUCT FOR BUSINESS PARTNERS
(As of July 17, 2014)
Michael Kors Holdings Limited and its subsidiaries are dedicated to conducting their operations throughout the world on principles of
ethical business practice and recognition of the dignity of workers. We expect our business partners to respect and adhere to the same
standards in the operation of their business, and we will utilize these criteria to evaluate our relationships with customers and suppliers.
This Code of Conduct is available on the Supply Chain Disclosure page of our website at www.michaelkors.com and may be updated from
time to time.
WAGES/BENEFITS/WORKING HOURS. Our business partners must comply with all laws regulating local wages, work hours and
benefits. Wage and benefit policies must be consistent with prevailing national standards, and also be acceptable under a broader
international understanding as to the basic needs of workers and their families. We will not work with companies whose wage structure
violates local law or prevailing industry practice.
CHILD LABOR. Our business partners must not use child labor, defined as school-age children. Our business partners will not employ
workers under the age of 15. This provision extends to all partner facilities.
HEALTH & SAFETY. Our business partners must ensure that their workers are provided a safe and healthy work environment, and
are not subject to unsanitary or hazardous conditions.
FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION. Our business partners should respect the legal rights of employees to freely and without harassment
participate in worker organizations of their choice.
PRISON OR FORCED LABOR. Our business partners will not work with or arrange for purchase of any materials from business
partners who utilize prison or forced labor in any stage of the manufacture of our products.
DISCIPLINARY PRACTICES. Our business partners will not employ or conduct any business activity with partners who employ any
form of physical or mental coercion or punishment against workers.
DISCRIMINATION. Our business partners will not practice nor do business with business partners who practice any form of improper
discrimination in hiring and employment, including on the basis of age, race, color, gender, or religion.
ENVIRONMENT. Our business partners must embrace a fundamental concern for environmental protection and conduct their
operations consistent with both local and internationally recognized environmental practices.
LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. Our business relationship must be built on a mutual respect for and adherence to legal requirements. Our
business partners will observe both local and applicable international standards.
ETHICAL STANDARDS. We intend to conduct all our business in a manner consistent with the highest ethical standards, and we will
seek and utilize partners who will do likewise, as this contributes directly to our corporate reputation and the collective success of our
organization and selected business partners.
CONFLICT MINERALS. We encourage our suppliers that use conflict minerals ─ cassiterite (tin), columbite-tantalite (tantalum), gold
and wolframite (tungsten) ─ that are necessary to the functionality or production of products that Michael Kors manufactures or contracts
to manufacture to source product in a socially and environmentally responsible manner and in accordance with the separate Conflict
Minerals Policy of the Company available on the Investor page of our website at www.michaelkors.com.
SUBCONTRACTING. Our business partners may not subcontract all or any part of the work on our products without our express
written consent, which will not be given unless each subcontractor meets all of the criteria set forth herein.
ANTI-BRIBERY. It is illegal and against Company policy for our business partners to offer, pay, promise to pay or authorize the
payment of money or anything else of value to any government or administrative official (whether directly or through an agent or other
intermediary) for the purpose of influencing an act or decision or securing an improper advantage for the Company.
GIFT GIVING. Our business partners are prohibited from giving to our employees or agents, or receiving from our employees or agents,
gifts in excess of US$100.00 and no gifts may be given or received in cash or its equivalent. Furnishing or receiving meals, refreshments
and entertainment in conjunction with business discussions is permitted.
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. Our business partners are expected to avoid conflicts of interest or potential conflicts of interest with
our employees. A conflict of interest may arise when an employee or a member of his or her family or any of his or her affiliates receives
improper personal benefits (in the form of money, gifts, personal favors or anything else of value) as a result of his or her position in the
Company (other than in accordance with the Company’s gift giving policy referred to above.)
IMPLEMENTATION. We will apply these criteria in all business partner determinations, and will continue to implement these policies
in the conduct of all activities. This will include our business partners sharing information on production facilities and procedures, with
the objective of improving our collective service to customers in a responsible manner. Failure by a business partner to meet these
standards, will result in our taking appropriate actions, up to and including cancellation of existing orders
 
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#813
melbo said:
Luxury brands cost more because of the materials AND the brand name. You can't say that CinthiaZ is spreading "misinformation " without looking at your previous statement regarding child workers making both counterfeit/original handbags. That is a wide based assumption.
Let's stick to what's important here. Counterfeiting any object, from phones to purses, isn't a victimless crime. We report links because it is criminal behaviour. This thread is dedicated to reporting counterfeit MK product.
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Thank you, Melbo. Well said! As we well know, Michael Kors is not using child slave labor. Seems many think there is no difference between counterfeit fakes and the real thing. And that is exactly the problem , and why fakes will always exist. Where there is demand, their will always be a supply. As long as people continue to justify buying from these criminals, we will always have the counterfeit market. Sad, because that is the only way it will ever stop, is when the consumers, quits buying them.
 
#814
Seem the only thing you're focusing in on with regards to what I said is "kids". So lets take that word away so it doesn't cloud the point I am making. Which is do not think that by paying out more money you are buying into a better quality product or production line. Chinese factories where people sit side by side making stuff for the designers, and stuff for the counterfeits. That is why you will not get the uprising from designers to shut down these places and stick a cork in the counterfeiters. They use the same places.
 
#821
trefusisgirl said:
Thank you. I am sure as those go, others are getting listed. It's like a never ending battle.
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It is a never ending battle and so few of us even bother with it. Did you notice how many of us even post them here?? I wonder if folks know about the old 'bait and switch' routine, where people put their fake in place of the real ones in Macy's and most other retailers. Perhaps when they get ripped off with one, they might start helping to report?? NO ONE is immune to it. I don't care where you go!

Here is yet another one! I think we may have reported it already, but it is still up!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-KOR...5234&clkid=8991828914201871915&_qi=RTM2067268
 
#823
CinthiaZ said:
It is a never ending battle and so few of us even bother with it. Did you notice how many of us even post them here?? I wonder if folks know about the old 'bait and switch' routine, where people put their fake in place of the real ones in Macy's and most other retailers. Perhaps when they get ripped off with one, they might start helping to report?? NO ONE is immune to it. I don't care where you go!

Here is yet another one! I think we may have reported it already, but it is still up!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-KOR...5234&clkid=8991828914201871915&_qi=RTM2067268
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Wow no I didn't about the bait and switch. Do u mean that people go to places like Macy's with a fake bag and then swap it for a real one? How can someone have the audacity and no sense of moral compass to do that? I had heart palpitations on Sunday when I got too close to the door in TK Maxx with a bag and it set the door alarms of. I was mortified. That has shocked me that someone could/would do that. Disgusting.
 
#824
CinthiaZ said:
It is a never ending battle and so few of us even bother with it. Did you notice how many of us even post them here?? I wonder if folks know about the old 'bait and switch' routine, where people put their fake in place of the real ones in Macy's and most other retailers. Perhaps when they get ripped off with one, they might start helping to report?? NO ONE is immune to it. I don't care where you go!

Here is yet another one! I think we may have reported it already, but it is still up!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-KOR...5234&clkid=8991828914201871915&_qi=RTM2067268
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Reported that was not a plesant item at all!
 
#825
These are all current listings for counterfiets on ebay UK:-

I know one has been reported previously and has popped up on there again, people have no scruples!!!


141769900569
271978352161
191690973190
321864367815
151816070328
201428625032
141774643747
 
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