i think why those sophias went crazy in prices was b/c Oprah gave them away on her favorties episode. I remember watching it and everyone in the audience got either the crimson sophia or the camel/nude color sophia. Patent is a hit or miss kinda bag as if you store it wrong you can get these marks on it and you cant get rid of itgood luck on yours.
What marks?
I love my large crimson patent Sophia and older style Sophia is nicer IMO