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I had both but returned the Vavin PM and purchased the Pochette Metis in black empreinte leather. I loved the Vavin but found that the chains on top pulled on the body of the bag, creating a V-shape on the top flap. I know that it would only get worse with time. I feel that any bag with the chain strap built in the flap of the bag would cause this problem, unless the flap is very firm. You can see the stress on the top, in the picture that was previously posted of the Passy.