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[jbags07]

Adding this, i am in search mode and just found this post from ksuromax when she attended a BV Showcase in Dubai….a Cabat plate sans number, like on the croc

 

[indiaink]

Thank you for your help V0N, i appreciate your input

One question, to clarify, there are special order Cabats w/o the tag attached to the bags, yes? And special orders would have plates w/o being numbered?

To reply to your questions….i assumed it was Espresso b/c its darker then my Ebano pieces. But, croc would take the dye differently so….that could explain the darker color?

The interior is as shiny as the exterior. The only pieces that are more matte are the pouch, and the bottom piece. But maybe a smoother part of the belly was used for these pieces? Or it was treated differently, since these are the only large single skin pieces used in the bag?

The skin is very thick and rough and heavy and definitely feels like croc. I do have one vintage croc bag to compare. And its definitely not embossed. I am positive its croc. And its a very heavy bag.

Plate. I gently peeled the plastic off, the plate looks exactly like my other plates. Minus the edition number. Which could be explained by it being a special order?

I do have a lot of Cabats When it arrived i did not compare it to my others, i actually only just did that now after i read your reply. Because as soon as i saw and felt it, i knew it was authentic. Everything about it feels ‘right’. I compared every detail just now to my Ottone Medium (which i know is authentic b/c its Mousses bag and this Cabat is the real deal imo. I know they’ve made some really good fake Cabats, but they could not have made this, would not have attempted to replicate a croc Cabat? The weave is so tight too. Its so beautifully made. Its like a piece of art.

I am just having a hard time actually believing it, w/o validation from one if you expert BVettes, b/c i paid the same price for this bag as i did for my Nero Mini Cabat I literally can’t believe TRR listed this bag as embossed, when its clearly the real deal, and for the price they did. And, it looks like its never been used. The interior of the pouch is pristine. The entire bag is pristine. No wear anywhere. Its stiff and creaky, b/c it sat folded in someones closet for all these years. Thats the only small issue, that crease line across the back. But a stiff bag organizer will take care of that.

I do not live near a BV boutique. But when i do have an opportunity to go to one, i will bring it.

Any input is appreciated!

Regarding the term ‘embossed’ - I’ve noticed it being used quite a bit; that saves the seller from any returns based on ‘real’ or ‘not real’. Also regular retail - I’ve found ‘embossed’ Ostrich BV items at both Nordstrom Rack and Saks Off 5th. I always think it’s so funny.

ETA: I’m getting goosebumps here...

 

[Nibb]

Snoop away! Any input is appreciated. I did see the duplicate listing, which means it was returned then?

I saw they listed as embossed. But its definitely not. And imo its definitely croc. Not leather embossed. I’ve had plenty of embossed bags, and i do have one vintage croc bag to compare, even tho that one is a structured bag.

Any thoughts?!

I think they may use the word embossed in order to sell to states that have bans on exotics. Congrats on the bag.

 

[jbags07]

I think they may use the word embossed in order to sell to states that have bans on exotics. Congrats on the bag.

That makes sense!

 

[indiaink]

I think they may use the word embossed in order to sell to states that have bans on exotics. Congrats on the bag.

Thank you - of course there would be a sensible explanation!

 

[jbags07]

Regarding the term ‘embossed’ - I’ve noticed it being used quite a bit; that saves the seller from any returns based on ‘real’ or ‘not real’. Also regular retail - I’ve found ‘embossed’ Ostrich BV items at both Nordstrom Rack and Saks Off 5th. I always think it’s so funny.

ETA: I’m getting goosebumps here...

Great points!

Goosebumps….so does that mean you have a good feeling on this one? You’ve seen and viewed far more Cabats then i…..any thoughts?

 

[indiaink]

Great points!

Goosebumps….so does that mean you have a good feeling on this one? You’ve seen and viewed far more Cabats then i…..any thoughts?

I do. I’ve never imagined having something so costly; that you’ve found something like this for this price is amazing. I did a Google search for 2013 Bottega Veneta Crocodile and there was a F/W men’s launch - had quite a few croc pieces going down the runway. I think you’ve got the real deal. How does the zipper feel on the pouch? And there’s a tie in the case of the Cabat, yes?

 

[Evergreen602]

I’ve never imagined having something so costly; that you’ve found something like this for this price is amazing.

I'm completely intrigued by this Cabat. @jbags07, I'm very happy for you! This has to be one of the best, if not the best, BV scores of all time.

 

[jbags07]

I do. I’ve never imagined having something so costly; that you’ve found something like this for this price is amazing. I did a Google search for 2013 Bottega Veneta Crocodile and there was a F/W men’s launch - had quite a few croc pieces going down the runway. I think you’ve got the real deal. How does the zipper feel on the pouch? And there’s a tie in the case of the Cabat, yes?

Same! I can’t believe i found this amazing piece at an insane price. Its like finding a Himalayan Birkin at the consignment shop

The zipper feels good. Its a RiRi, the zipper tab….the pouch, zipper, and bag all have that luxe feel to them. The zipper pull is a tie, not a tab. I’ve owned older venetas that had those same tie pulls….And yes, there is a tie/loop on the case, same as my others.

I could be wrong, but i can’t imagine it not being authentic!

 

[jbags07]

I'm completely intrigued by this Cabat. @jbags07, I'm very happy for you! This has to be one of the best, if not the best, BV scores of all time.

I am so intrigued too. I would love to know its origin. I can’t imagine the original owner just sending her off to TRR. Perhaps its from an estate, and whoever was sorting the bags had no idea of its value. Nor did TRR.

Thank you for sharing my joy (if its indeed authentic) , and if so, it will certainly be the score of my lifetime!

 

[jbags07]

@indiaink , zip and attachment

 

[jbags07]

Bottega Veneta Stuck to What It Knows for Spring 2016 Bags - PurseBlog

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One of the Cabats pictured here in the PB spring/summer 2016 article, looks like the same one, but in the large size….???

 

[V0N1B2]

Sorry for snooping but I find this Cabat fascinating. I have a question about the code. Hadn’t BV switched to a single line code by 2013?
It appears the bag was previously purchased and returned one other time. Also TRR has it listed as “crocodile embossed”.

Yes the authenticity tags changed to the alphanumeric ones for Spring 2012.
TRR don’t know sh!t. They mis-label so much stuff. Even callling something animal print when it’s clearly snakeskin or listing suede shoes as “fabric”. I mean, I’ve even seen them put clothing on sideways on the mannequins and I’m like WTF dressed this dummy?

Thank you for your help V0N, i appreciate your input

One question, to clarify, there are special order Cabats w/o the tag attached to the bags, yes? And special orders would have plates w/o being numbered?

To reply to your questions….i assumed it was Espresso b/c its darker then my Ebano pieces. But, croc would take the dye differently so….that could explain the darker color?

The interior is as shiny as the exterior. The only pieces that are more matte are the pouch, and the bottom piece. But maybe a smoother part of the belly was used for these pieces? Or it was treated differently, since these are the only large single skin pieces used in the bag?

The skin is very thick and rough and heavy and definitely feels like croc. I do have one vintage croc bag to compare. And its definitely not embossed. I am positive its croc. And its a very heavy bag.

Plate. I gently peeled the plastic off, the plate looks exactly like my other plates. Minus the edition number. Which could be explained by it being a special order?

I do have a lot of Cabats When it arrived i did not compare it to my others, i actually only just did that now after i read your reply. Because as soon as i saw and felt it, i knew it was authentic. Everything about it feels ‘right’. I compared every detail just now to my Ottone Medium (which i know is authentic b/c its Mousses bag and this Cabat is the real deal imo. I know they’ve made some really good fake Cabats, but they could not have made this, would not have attempted to replicate a croc Cabat? The weave is so tight too. Its so beautifully made. Its like a piece of art.

I am just having a hard time actually believing it, w/o validation from one if you expert BVettes, b/c i paid the same price for this bag as i did for my Nero Mini Cabat I literally can’t believe TRR listed this bag as embossed, when its clearly the real deal, and for the price they did. And, it looks like its never been used. The interior of the pouch is pristine. The entire bag is pristine. No wear anywhere. Its stiff and creaky, b/c it sat folded in someones closet for all these years. Thats the only small issue, that crease line across the back. But a stiff bag organizer will take care of that.

I do not live near a BV boutique. But when i do have an opportunity to go to one, i will bring it.

Any input is appreciated!

SO Cabats would (I assume?) have the person’s name or initials or something engraved on the plate.
Tags inside the pouch were specific to a particular year or season, just like how one year, they engraved the season on the LE plaque, only to not repeat it the following year - then do it again a couple of years later. I don’t know why some accessory pouches did not have their plaques numbered. To be honest, I don’t really know that much about Cabats.
The bottom of the bag is where the counterfeits usually fail. They never seem to line them up properly. You can tell by the feel and weight - and like you wrote above - the tightness of the intrecciato weave that it is most likely the real deal.
I’ve seen TRR list things for the most ridiculous prices, TBH. They’ll list an old vintage bag from 1990 for $750 and then on the next page, there’s an exotic from 2016 selling for $500. It’s whack. I bought a pair of never worn Aquazzura shoes for $56.

 

[jbags07]

Yes the authenticity tags changed to the alphanumeric ones for Spring 2012.
TRR don’t know sh!t. They mis-label so much stuff. Even callling something animal print when it’s clearly snakeskin or listing suede shoes as “fabric”. I mean, I’ve even seen them put clothing on sideways on the mannequins and I’m like WTF dressed this dummy?

SO Cabats would (I assume?) have the person’s name or initials or something engraved on the plate.
Tags inside the pouch were specific to a particular year or season, just like how one year, they engraved the season on the LE plaque, only to not repeat it the following year - then do it again a couple of years later. I don’t know why some accessory pouches did not have their plaques numbered. To be honest, I don’t really know that much about Cabats.
The bottom of the bag is where the counterfeits usually fail. They never seem to line them up properly. You can tell by the feel and weight - and like you wrote above - the tightness of the intrecciato weave that it is most likely the real deal.
I’ve seen TRR list things for the most ridiculous prices, TBH. They’ll list an old vintage bag from 1990 for $750 and then on the next page, there’s an exotic from 2016 selling for $500. It’s whack. I bought a pair of never worn Aquazzura shoes for $56.

Thank u for all of your input . I appreciate you entertaining all of my questions.

Its mind blowing how incompetent TRR is. But most of us keep looking/buying from them in spite of them being a hot mess, b/c even tho u have to kiss a lot of frogs, its worth it when u find your prince Like your shoes and my cabat!

I will attach pix of the bottom and then stop being a pest But i do think the bottom lines up well? Its just odd, as u said, no initials on the plate. But i’ve found others without too, like the one from BV’s own showcase, so its a thing….and the weave is tight, the bag is luxe and heavy, and i would be very surprised if its not the real deal!

 

[V0N1B2]

Thank u for all of your input . I appreciate you entertaining all of my questions.

Its mind blowing how incompetent TRR is. But most of us keep looking/buying from them in spite of them being a hot mess, b/c even tho u have to kiss a lot of frogs, its worth it when u find your prince Like your shoes and my cabat!

I will attach pix of the bottom and then stop being a pest But i do think the bottom lines up well? Its just odd, as u said, no initials on the plate. But i’ve found others without too, like the one from BV’s own showcase, so its a thing….and the weave is tight, the bag is luxe and heavy, and i would be very surprised if its not the real deal!


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Yeah, that bottom is really nice and neat looking. I’d say you found yourself a real treasure.