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#2,956
septembersiren said:
Post a pic of the tag and we will be able to give you a definitive answer
But Ink came with a purple lining
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Sorry for the confusion, I just reread my post and realized it’s not clear.

I meant that muchstuff’s Cookie must not be ink if it’s a different shade from the ink Cabat... my Montaigne was confirmed Ink somewhere on this thread a while back...
the Cookie bag looks like Ink in photos but we know those are very deceiving. Still pretty, though, whatever blue it is!!! [emoji4]
 
#2,957
Hershey'sKisses said:
Sorry for the confusion, I just reread my post and realized it’s not clear.

I meant that muchstuff’s Cookie must not be ink if it’s a different shade from the ink Cabat... my Montaigne was confirmed Ink somewhere on this thread a while back...
the Cookie bag looks like Ink in photos but we know those are very deceiving. Still pretty, though, whatever blue it is!!! [emoji4]
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septembersiren said:
Post a pic of the tag and we will be able to give you a definitive answer
But Ink came with a purple lining[/QUOTE
Yes my Cabat pouch also has a purple lining. The fortune cookie however does not. Just a cloth lining in beige. @septembersiren if you were referring to my post the tag is a one liner, what year did they start? Is there any point in posting a pic?
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#2,959
Made for outlet bags are done in whatever colour the factory feels like making. They do colours that sell. They do not follow seasonal colours. They make bags like Capri Totes in Hot Pink (presumably but not necessarily Rosa Shock) for sale in outlets every single year. Same thing for the Tote bags with the intrecciato sides that have the zipper on top. The boutique version of the bag came in whatever seasonal colour was offered - the outlet version (with the zipper) is available in colours that sell well in outlets. Unless you are buying what I would call a boutique transfer - as in bags that were left over at the end of the season - there is little guarantee of knowing what season/colour a made for outlet bag is, since those bags don't technically come to boutiques seasonally.
All anyone can say with absolute certainly is that your bag was made after Spring 2012 and its some shade of blue. What country it was actually purchased in, for what price, and what colour, is only something Bottega Veneta inventory control can answer with a scan of the authenticity tag. :flowers:
 
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#2,960
V0N1B2 said:
Made for outlet bags are done in whatever colour the factory feels like making. They do colours that sell. They do not follow seasonal colours. They make bags like Capri Totes in Hot Pink (presumably but not necessarily Rosa Shock) for sale in outlets every single year. Same thing for the Tote bags with the intrecciato sides that have the zipper on top. The boutique version of the bag came in whatever seasonal colour was offered - the outlet version (with the zipper) is available in colours that sell well in outlets. Unless you are buying what I would call a boutique transfer - as in bags that were left over at the end of the season - there is little guarantee of knowing what season/colour a made for outlet bag is, since those bags don't technically come to boutiques seasonally.
All anyone can say with absolute certainly is that your bag was made after Spring 2012 and its some shade of blue. What country it was actually purchased in, for what price, and what colour, is only something Bottega Veneta inventory control can answer with a scan of the authenticity tag. :flowers:
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septembersiren said:
[emoji106]
I think they went to the new tag in 2011
Ink was from 2010
I think
I am not at home so I can’t tell you right now but single # tags don’t tell us anythingk
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Thanks ladies. Can you clarify for me then how you tell an outlet fortune cookie from a non-outlet fortune cookie? V0N you said the outlet ones have a zipper, do you mean the dividing one inside the bag, that divides it into two sections? Does the non-outlet bag have the suede lining and no divider inside or what? (I'd also call it purple rather than blue if I had to name it).
 
#2,961
There's no such thing to my knowledge as a non-outlet "Fortune Cookie" bag. This silhouette is made specifically for the outlet and sold nowhere but a Bottega Veneta outlet store.
 
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#2,962
V0N1B2 said:
There's no such thing to my knowledge as a non-outlet "Fortune Cookie" bag. This silhouette is made specifically for the outlet and sold nowhere but a Bottega Veneta outlet store.
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At the risk of hijacking the ID thread, can you please educate me re: outlet? Having never been an outlet person I confess to a complete lack of understanding. Would I be correct tin assuming that BV makes the outlet bags to reach and wider (and shallower-pocketed) audience? Do they compromise on quality with the outlet bags? (as I mentioned, my fortune cookie has a cloth lining). Do they make styles that are sold in both outlet and non-outlet? (I could have sworn in my research that a comment was made that the FC bag wasn't an outlet bag, I'll try to find it again. Not disputing your vast knowledge V0N, just commenting).
 
#2,963
V0N1B2 said:
Made for outlet bags are done in whatever colour the factory feels like making. They do colours that sell. They do not follow seasonal colours. They make bags like Capri Totes in Hot Pink (presumably but not necessarily Rosa Shock) for sale in outlets every single year. Same thing for the Tote bags with the intrecciato sides that have the zipper on top. The boutique version of the bag came in whatever seasonal colour was offered - the outlet version (with the zipper) is available in colours that sell well in outlets. Unless you are buying what I would call a boutique transfer - as in bags that were left over at the end of the season - there is little guarantee of knowing what season/colour a made for outlet bag is, since those bags don't technically come to boutiques seasonally.
All anyone can say with absolute certainly is that your bag was made after Spring 2012 and its some shade of blue. What country it was actually purchased in, for what price, and what colour, is only something Bottega Veneta inventory control can answer with a scan of the authenticity tag. :flowers:
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This is excellent info! I thought made for outlet bags followed the seasonal colors... I probably only make it to the outlet a couple of times a year, but never know which pieces are made for outlet items vs past season items from the boutiques...
 
#2,964
I have been meaning to sit down and start comprehensive threads on all of the popular bag styles for posterity. When they were introduced, in what colours they were available, when they were discontinued (if applicable). For now, all of that is just in my head, and a few notes here and there on my iPad. There are many many ladies here with a vast wealth of knowledge (much greater than mine) and while I can't speak for them, I can say that I will not be around here forever.

muchstuff said:
At the risk of hijacking the ID thread, can you please educate me re: outlet? Having never been an outlet person I confess to a complete lack of understanding. Would I be correct tin assuming that BV makes the outlet bags to reach and wider (and shallower-pocketed) audience? Do they compromise on quality with the outlet bags? (as I mentioned, my fortune cookie has a cloth lining). Do they make styles that are sold in both outlet and non-outlet? (I could have sworn in my research that a comment was made that the FC bag wasn't an outlet bag, I'll try to find it again. Not disputing your vast knowledge V0N, just commenting).
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There are, probably, about a hundred threads about BV outlets in the Shopping Subforum.
The "Fortune Cookie", Pyramid, Capri, and many other bags were all once sold exclusively in boutiques. They were at one time or another, discontinued. They then were manufactured again and sold exclusively in Bottega Veneta outlets. The Capri bag for example, was discontinued around 2010-ish (?) and popped up in outlets shortly after with a change to the lock, the design of the handles, and a switch of the interior lining material. Same goes for the Pyramid. There were once different versions of the Pyramid. It disappeared from boutiques and popped up later in outlets. You can often buy it in past seasonal colours. The "Fortune Cookie" bag has been seen on the runway back around 2003/2004 or somewhere around there. It can in plain Nappa, a Suede with embellishments, full Intrecciato, partial Intrecciato... For now, the outlets offer one version. Perhaps they will change that in the future or decide to discontinue it altogether. The Nappa Ayers tote seen in boutiques and department stores has an outlet cousin, as does the "Iron" Bag as we call it. Outlet bags are Made in Italy, I would assume alongside items being shipped to boutiques. In my experience, the finishing and stitching is no different. Many bags are made with a cotton lining I guess to keep costs down, although a lot of the Men's collection of bags seen in stores are also made with cotton lining. As far as I know, they don't make the same bags for both outlet and retail stores BUT, I believe they offer the same silhouette in outlets in alternate materials and a tweak to design.
I would not be surprised if Bottega Veneta decides to discontinue what most of us here would call "Classic BV" and sell those intrecciato bags exclusively in outlets - I'm thinking the Montaigne, Parachute, Campana etc... - and focuses on more seasonal, trendy, youthful bags. But, I am not a fortune teller and can't predict the future direction of the brand, it's just my opinion.

Hershey'sKisses said:
This is excellent info! I thought made for outlet bags followed the seasonal colors... I probably only make it to the outlet a couple of times a year, but never know which pieces are made for outlet items vs past season items from the boutiques...
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1. Some do. You will find a lot of bags made in past seasonal colours. You will find bags still being being made in colours that have not been made in 3-4 years. Does Bottega Veneta have a bunch of dyed leather left over from previous seasons? I have no idea. Possibly.
2. I think that is kind of the point. I doubt very much that Bottega as a luxury brand wants you to know that certain styles are made specifically for the outlet. I think generally, a "Made for Outlet" bag has a certain negative connotation to it for some people. The fact is, Bottega couldn't have enough boutique transfers to keep the outlets stocked, so bags are made to be sold only in outlets - just like Gucci does, and Coach, and ALMOST every other brand that has a presence at outlets.
 
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V0N1B2 said:
I have been meaning to sit down and start comprehensive threads on all of the popular bag styles for posterity. When they were introduced, in what colours they were available, when they were discontinued (if applicable). For now, all of that is just in my head, and a few notes here and there on my iPad. There are many many ladies here with a vast wealth of knowledge (much greater than mine) and while I can't speak for them, I can say that I will not be around here forever.


There are, probably, about a hundred threads about BV outlets in the Shopping Subforum.
The "Fortune Cookie", Pyramid, Capri, and many other bags were all once sold exclusively in boutiques. They were at one time or another, discontinued. They then were manufactured again and sold exclusively in Bottega Veneta outlets. The Capri bag for example, was discontinued around 2010-ish (?) and popped up in outlets shortly after with a change to the lock, the design of the handles, and a switch of the interior lining material. Same goes for the Pyramid. There were once different versions of the Pyramid. It disappeared from boutiques and popped up later in outlets. You can often buy it in past seasonal colours. The "Fortune Cookie" bag has been seen on the runway back around 2003/2004 or somewhere around there. It can in plain Nappa, a Suede with embellishments, full Intrecciato, partial Intrecciato... For now, the outlets offer one version. Perhaps they will change that in the future or decide to discontinue it altogether. The Nappa Ayers tote seen in boutiques and department stores has an outlet cousin, as does the "Iron" Bag as we call it. Outlet bags are Made in Italy, I would assume alongside items being shipped to boutiques. In my experience, the finishing and stitching is no different. Many bags are made with a cotton lining I guess to keep costs down, although a lot of the Men's collection of bags seen in stores are also made with cotton lining. As far as I know, they don't make the same bags for both outlet and retail stores BUT, I believe they offer the same silhouette in outlets in alternate materials and a tweak to design.
I would not be surprised if Bottega Veneta decides to discontinue what most of us here would call "Classic BV" and sell those intrecciato bags exclusively in outlets - I'm thinking the Montaigne, Parachute, Campana etc... - and focuses on more seasonal, trendy, youthful bags. But, I am not a fortune teller and can't predict the future direction of the brand, it's just my opinion.


1. Some do. You will find a lot of bags made in past seasonal colours. You will find bags still being being made in colours that have not been made in 3-4 years. Does Bottega Veneta have a bunch of dyed leather left over from previous seasons? I have no idea. Possibly.
2. I think that is kind of the point. I doubt very much that Bottega as a luxury brand wants you to know that certain styles are made specifically for the outlet. I think generally, a "Made for Outlet" bag has a certain negative connotation to it for some people. The fact is, Bottega couldn't have enough boutique transfers to keep the outlets stocked, so bags are made to be sold only in outlets - just like Gucci does, and Coach, and ALMOST every other brand that has a presence at outlets.
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Thanks for the info V0N. Sorry for not doing a more in depth look into the various threads before posting the question, my bad.
 
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#2,969
V0N1B2 said:
Other Made for Outlet bags:
(first photo; previously available in boutiques)
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I must be dim... this is bringing up more questions in my mind. If the outlet prices are so much less than retail but the finishing and stitching are no different where are they saving on manufacturing cost? Quality of leather? And if the fortune cookie was on the runway at some point why did it never go to retail but only outlet? I guess I don’t get the concept of outlet in general. Doesn't it just cheapen the brand name?
 
#2,970
V0N1B2 said:
I’m happy to help answer questions anytime, doll. The shopping sub is big and there’s a lot of info in there, but I don’t think anyone really goes into it very often :lol:
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Oh Gawd I’m in the sub forums on a regular basis but sometimes there’s just so much info it’s hard to find exactly what you need :huh:
 
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