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I have learned so much from everyone here. I have yet another question. Can anyone tell me the color of this Campana bag from the number on the tag? I know it's a shade of dark brown, but I'm not sure which one:
Style/Serial/Authenticity: 125787 V0016 2072 EPEV 2010 7142 A

Thank you very much
 
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HereToLearn said:
I have learned so much from everyone here. I have yet another question. Can anyone tell me the color of this Campana bag from the number on the tag? I know it's a shade of dark brown, but I'm not sure which one:
Style/Serial/Authenticity: 125787 V0016 2072 EPEV 2010 7142 A

Thank you very much
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this brown is called EBANO
 
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skye1989 said:
Thank you all who have responded - I appreciate your comments! :biggrin:

To answer Indiaink's question: actually, some goat leathers (especially those used by premium brands like Hermes) do sport a characteristic spine. It isn't unique to reptilian leathers. I've appended screenshots of some articles i found on the net describing this below, for your reference. :smile:

Also, yes the words "Bottega Veneta" are embossed/heatstamped on the inside of the bag. I've also seen this style sold before in other colours and leathers (calf, specifically) in the boutiques so i'm sure it's a style carried by BV. It's just that I've never seen one in this leather.
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We'll have to agree to disagree on the spine thing. Perhaps it's a language issue.

Can you post a pic of the heatstamp in the mystery BV bag? I'm really curious now! :heart:
 
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indiaink said:
We'll have to agree to disagree on the spine thing. Perhaps it's a language issue.

Can you post a pic of the heatstamp in the mystery BV bag? I'm really curious now! :heart:
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Sure - you'll see the heatstamp in the pic below.

As for our discussion on the spine, I'm not sure what you mean by language issue...? The screenshots in my earlier post were extracted from US websites (one being Yoogiscloset), so it's not a translation error for sure, if that's what you mean.

Also, "Spine" is an oft-used term amongst TPFers in the Hermes discussion forums (which i frequent as well :p), where it's widely understood that depending on the provenance of the goathide, the leather can exhibit different characteristics, some of which include spine-like veins running down the centre of the bag. You'll see screenshots where TPFers have used that term below :smile: You'll also notice they don't use the term with Apostrophes because well, it's a thing and is quite well understood amongst Hermes fans (including me) so I don't blame you for not being familiar with it :smile:

I've also provided a clearer picture (I hope) of the spine in a brown goatskin Hermes HAC bag in case you didn't catch it earlier (see the pattern running down the centre?).
 

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skye1989 said:
Sure - you'll see the heatstamp in the pic below.

As for our discussion on the spine, I'm not sure what you mean by language issue...? The screenshots in my earlier post were extracted from US websites (one being Yoogiscloset), so it's not a translation error for sure, if that's what you mean.

Also, "Spine" is an oft-used term amongst TPFers in the Hermes discussion forums (which i frequent as well :p), where it's widely understood that depending on the provenance of the goathide, the leather can exhibit different characteristics, some of which include spine-like veins running down the centre of the bag. You'll see screenshots where TPFers have used that term below :smile: You'll also notice they don't use the term with Apostrophes because well, it's a thing and is quite well understood amongst Hermes fans (including me) so I don't blame you for not being familiar with it :smile:

I've also provided a clearer picture (I hope) of the spine in a brown goatskin Hermes HAC bag in case you didn't catch it earlier (see the pattern running down the centre?).
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The heat stamp looks good on the BV.

I've worked with leather for many decades so to me the term 'spine' either refers to a book or to a bag or other item made from the hide of a reptile. With a spine. Screen shots from discussions are meaningless to me. It matters not the brand when discussing leather, in the leather world. Of course, brand is all there is here, so I can understand your POV.

I thought it was perhaps a translation issue, but I see not - your reference to 'spine' is a reference to 'grain', to me. As a leather person. And goatskin certainly has a very marked grain! Also one of the more tough hides. I prefer Cervo myself, for sturdiness, as I feel it can be more 'feminine'. :) Having had goatskin bags, I find them a bit ... heavy.

It will be most interesting to find out more about the BV; I do hope you have access to a good BV SA who will be able to assist you with that all-important serial number.
 
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IMG_2046.JPG @skye1989 - I must offer my humble apologies for my goat ignorance - after a close and dear friend explained to me about the leather from the spine area of the goat, and how it's done in such a way as to be the centerpiece of the bag, I finally (duh) understood what you were trying to tell me.

I offer this photo of myself, from 1975, as my only (heretofore) experience of working with goats - and that was purely from a wrestling point of view.

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indiaink said:
The heat stamp looks good on the BV.

I've worked with leather for many decades so to me the term 'spine' either refers to a book or to a bag or other item made from the hide of a reptile. With a spine. Screen shots from discussions are meaningless to me. It matters not the brand when discussing leather, in the leather world. Of course, brand is all there is here, so I can understand your POV.

I thought it was perhaps a translation issue, but I see not - your reference to 'spine' is a reference to 'grain', to me. As a leather person. And goatskin certainly has a very marked grain! Also one of the more tough hides. I prefer Cervo myself, for sturdiness, as I feel it can be more 'feminine'. :smile: Having had goatskin bags, I find them a bit ... heavy.

It will be most interesting to find out more about the BV; I do hope you have access to a good BV SA who will be able to assist you with that all-important serial number.
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indiaink said:
View attachment 3599724 @skye1989 - I must offer my humble apologies for my goat ignorance - after a close and dear friend explained to me about the leather from the spine area of the goat, and how it's done in such a way as to be the centerpiece of the bag, I finally (duh) understood what you were trying to tell me.

I offer this photo of myself, from 1975, as my only (heretofore) experience of working with goats - and that was purely from a wrestling point of view.

:smile:
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That's a beautiful photo - thank you so much for sharing it with us! I must say i envy you very much; i live in a small city-state with no country-side to speak of, and most definitely no means to interact with farm animals (other than at a zoo). You're very fortunate.

Also, pls don't apologise. I think we all have something to learn from each other - for instance, i take great personal interest in leather (in and of itself, and not only when a label is put on it) and very much admire people who've first hand experience working with it. I probably have a lot more to learn from you!

Thanks also for somewhat surreptitiously authenticating this bag. I purchased it from a reputable local reseller whom i trust, but thought i'd verify its origins from BV experts like yourself at TPF. Your uncertainty is making me doubt my own judgment. Specifically, you mentioned that the tag would be an important tell-tale sign - does the picture of the tag i posted earlier look off? Is that why you aren't sure about its authenticity?

PS: I love cervo too; in fact before i was introduced to goat leathers (and their many variations), deer leather was my favourite and go-to leather for bags. They're probably one of the most supple and squishy hides i've ever owned :biggrin:
 
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skye1989 said:
That's a beautiful photo - thank you so much for sharing it with us! I must say i envy you very much; i live in a small city-state with no country-side to speak of, and most definitely no means to interact with farm animals (other than at a zoo). You're very fortunate.

Thanks also for somewhat surreptitiously authenticating this bag. I purchased it from a reputable local reseller whom i trust, but thought i'd verify its origins from BV experts like yourself at TPF. Your uncertainty is making me doubt my own judgment. Specifically, you mentioned that the tag would be an important tell-tale sign - does the picture of the tag i posted earlier look off? Is that why you aren't sure about its authenticity?
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You are welcome. I didn't realize how lucky I was at the time, being a teenager at the height of her importance in the world. But I digress...

I and our most knowledgeable BV expert haven't seen this chevre bag before, and I think, for her vast encyclopedic knowledge, that is a rare thing indeed. So, as she (and myself) have suggested, please check the tag with a BV SA that you've worked with. They are the only ones to tell you about this bag now. I will say the heat stamp is perfect! So no worries, please! We are just very careful here, as you can imagine; I'm sure the same holds true with Hermes authenticators. :flowers:
 
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It looks like someone took a sandblaster to a Resort '09 Anemone Spazzolato Cabat.
I've never seen a treatment like this and there are very few Cabats with patent handles that I can think of, off the top of my head.
What does the authenticity tag say? That will tell you everything you need to know.
 
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