Please help me identify these 2 bags!

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Hi everyone,
I was wondering if you'd all be so kind as to help me identify what these 2 bags are. The first is the brown one Gemma Ward has, and the second is a blue (Balenciaga?) bag that Kate Moss has. I'd appreciate it if anyone could give me any more details on them, because I'm lusting after both! Thanks!
 

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gemma's bag is miu miu. she carries that bag a lot...
kate's balenciaga courier or hobo from year '02 or before that because the hardware is still flat unlike the '03 and above with studded hardware
 
a girl from balenciaga forum found one on ebay some times ago.
i think it's worth a try to search on ebay regularly but maybe the price would be high as it's quite a coveted bag :p
good luck!
 
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