NÉONOÉ MM bicolor NO date code!

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Hi there. I recently acquired this NÉONOÉ MM bicolor in black. I got the last one in stock. I’ve carried it for a few days but started to have a weird, creeping suspicion about it. The first feeling I could not shake, was that this bag was a return. Upon closer inspection, it had no price tags. But, perhaps LV doesn’t have price rages on their bags? Not a big deal, as the bag was purchased for me anyway. But, if we’re being honest, I’m not thrilled I was sold a return. I’m skeptical this bag is a new one since it was premiered around 9/2020 and still on the shelf 6/2021? Perhaps the reason so long on the shelves is the pandemic, and not a return.

I decided to try and let that go. I don’t know if any of you have read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell…but he opens up the book with the story of kouros, about an Ancient Greek statue that was sold to the Getty Museum in California. The Getty did all the normal background checks to establish that the kouros was authentic. And after 14 months of due diligence, The Getty staff established it to be the real thing. The statue of kouros was sold for just shy of 10 mil.

However,


An art historian named Frederico Zeri was taken to see the statue and immediately felt it was fake. The Getty had done 14 months of authenticating. It had to be genuine. They had countless experts, geologists, etc look at the kouros. Another art historian looked at it- and while they agreed that while it had form of a proper classical statue…it lacked the spirit. A third art historian came to look at the statue of the kouros and felt a wave of “intuitive repulsion”.

Blink is a book about hunch power. And while, I swear, I’m not here to sell you a book, I thought about that book when I looked at this bag. When I really looked at it. It’s beautiful, but something is starting to feel off. I cannot find a date code in this bag and it has started to release a chemical scent. A scent I didn’t notice the first day out of the box. It just smelled like leather. Now it gets more chemical hydroxyfufu the longer it’s out. I was just handling the bag, and the chemical scent is on my fingers now too. I am not an expert but something seems off to me about this bag.

I looked on Fashionphile.com to see if I could find pictures of the date code for this bag. I did. Most of the date codes for this particular bag were just below the bag straps, tucked into the interior lining seam. I double looked inside my bag, nada. I came across one neonoe mm bicolor black that had a datecode tucked into the little zippy wristlet that came with the bag. I looked inside mine, and there indeed is a tiny black leather flap tucked into there but no date code on it. It is blank.

Stumped, I called LV’s 1-866 number, only to be told aggressively she could not tell me where it is in the bag.

I cannot, for the life of me, find a date code on this bag. Is there anyone with experience about this particular bag? I know it was a limited release so it may be different from other neonoe’s but something about this bag doesn’t seem right. I don’t know if it’s just because I’m inexperienced or something is legitimately up? Why was this bag on the shelves for so long? Why doesn’t it have a price tag on it? Why doesn’t it have a date code? And why does it stink of chemicals?

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I'm confused, why do you think it's been on the shelf since 9/2020? It's still for sale now on the website right? LV has recently changed to using microchips instead of date codes so it's possible you got a newer bag that has the chip instead of the date code. You can check this by downloading an NFC reader app on your phone and scanning your bag (the scan won't produce any useful information, just some serial codes). And no, LV does not have price tags on their bags. Sometimes you may get the item sticker barcode thing included but that is not standard as part of the packaging and it doesn't include price.
 
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I'm confused, why do you think it's been on the shelf since 9/2020? It's still for sale now on the website right? LV has recently changed to using microchips instead of date codes so it's possible you got a newer bag that has the chip instead of the date code. You can check this by downloading an NFC reader app on your phone and scanning your bag (the scan won't produce any useful information, just some serial codes). And no, LV does not have price tags on their bags. Sometimes you may get the item sticker barcode thing included but that is not standard as part of the packaging and it doesn't include price.
It’s not for sale on the website. It’s out of stock. I haven’t seen it on the shelves for months and all of a sudden I found one. The client advisor told me it was the last one in the country. It felt weird as I’m not in a major city, and this was such a coveted bag. This bag actually resells for more than it retails for…and I just had a hunch this bag was returned.

The zippy wallet inside has what looks like black speckled debris all inside it.

It also came with this little misaligned piece of paper with Louis Vuitton written on it in a wine color. It’s harder to tell in the pictures but the whole card is crooked, especially at the top. If I can find a protractor, I will put it up against it. It has a slant to it that can be seen with the blind eye in person. Seemed kind of odd for LV to throw something like that in that is so obviously misaligned.

How long ago did they start the chips? Thanks for reading, btw.
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Why do you care if it's a returned bag? Is it flawed? Are you willing to return the bag after you've carried it? That would be pretty hypocritical. If the bag is flawed or dirty upon purchase, that would be different. But it sounds like you got this feeling AFTER carrying it. Sounds like buyers remorse.

In your own words, you are an inexperienced buyer. Here are a few thoughts:

LV doesn't have price tags. LV is changing the way they do date codes vs the chip. Your bag could have sat there b/c you are in a small town and that bag is not monogram and perhaps too expensive. It's possible, but rare for an SA to go to the trouble to call other boutiques to find a product for a customer, therefore that bag sat in your small town until you walked in and asked for it.

What do you mean "acquired" and "purchased for you"? Did a personal shopped purchase this bag for you? And you don't trust the shopper? This is such an odd post.
 
How do you know if this bag was on shelf a long time or a return? You don't know the daily activity SA do everyday when your not there. Someone could have made a phone call to make a purchase. And a new shipment came in to replenish the same bag.

When there is no date code, this mean it was made very recent with new hidden microchip in place. :shrugs:

I have found that only shoes can show price tags with removable stickers.The rest of items offered do NOT offer price tags. You have to ask for curiosity.
 
Why do you care if it's a returned bag? Is it flawed? Are you willing to return the bag after you've carried it? That would be pretty hypocritical. If the bag is flawed or dirty upon purchase, that would be different. But it sounds like you got this feeling AFTER carrying it. Sounds like buyers remorse.

In your own words, you are an inexperienced buyer. Here are a few thoughts:

LV doesn't have price tags. LV is changing the way they do date codes vs the chip. Your bag could have sat there b/c you are in a small town and that bag is not monogram and perhaps too expensive. It's possible, but rare for an SA to go to the trouble to call other boutiques to find a product for a customer, therefore that bag sat in your small town until you walked in and asked for it.

What do you mean "acquired" and "purchased for you"? Did a personal shopped purchase this bag for you? And you don't trust the shopper? This is such an odd post.

oh, sorry, I thought it was pretty clear when I meant purchased for me. It was a gift, as in I didn’t pay for it.

I wouldn’t turn the bag if it was just a new return, to be clear. Why should I even bother, I got the bag for free. A small thing like it being returned isn’t enough for me to return it. It does have what looks like black debris inside the zippy, as I stated above. There are pictures and it is a large monorgram bag. I don’t live in a small town…I just don’t live in NY/LA/CHI/MIA/ATL. It seems odd of the most coveted bags would be the last one in the county in my city.
 
How do you know if this bag was on shelf a long time or a return? You don't know the daily activity SA do everyday when your not there. Someone could have made a phone call to make a purchase. And a new shipment came in to replenish the same bag.

When there is no date code, this mean it was made very recent with new hidden microchip in place. :shrugs:

I have found that only shoes can show price tags with removable stickers.The rest of items offered do NOT offer price tags. You have to ask for curiosity.
The LV where I go…it’s always busy. Always a line out the door. Not many bags were in there as people are snapping it up like crazy. I don’t know for sure. So you’ve got me there. I just feel it’s unlikely a bag this coveted happened to be the last one in the country and happened to be at this store, of all places. There’s hundreds of stores in this country with LV. Do you know when they started chipping NeoNoes? Because all the other Neonoe MM in bicolor that I’ve seen…seem to have a date code. They were released around September of 2020, I believe. Does anyone know for how long they were in production?
 
It’s not for sale on the website. It’s out of stock. I haven’t seen it on the shelves for months and all of a sudden I found one. The client advisor told me it was the last one in the country. It felt weird as I’m not in a major city, and this was such a coveted bag. This bag actually resells for more than it retails for…and I just had a hunch this bag was returned.

The zippy wallet inside has what looks like black speckled debris all inside it.

It also came with this little misaligned piece of paper with Louis Vuitton written on it in a wine color. It’s harder to tell in the pictures but the whole card is crooked, especially at the top. If I can find a protractor, I will put it up against it. It has a slant to it that can be seen with the blind eye in person. Seemed kind of odd for LV to throw something like that in that is so obviously misaligned.

How long ago did they start the chips? Thanks for reading, btw.
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I see, it's hard to tell on the site if it's still for sale since Out of Stock can mean it's really out of stock at the moment or it's actually discontinued, so I wasn't sure which it was. I wouldn't worry too much about the little card it came with. I checked the packaging of a SLG I got last year and mine is not exactly crooked but it's not centered. I'm guessing they just print a ton of these out on a sheet of cardstock and then a machine punches it out to the right size.
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I'm not sure of when they started microchipping, I just know it was started in 2021. But I think even some of the bags made at the start of this year still had date codes. If yours is missing the date code then I think it's safe to assume it has a microchip so it probably hasn't been sitting around since last year. Whether or not it's a return will probably be impossible to find out. If it really is no longer being sold then I suppose it's possible that it's a return. It could have also been the floor model that remained unsold but was tried on by customers. From your pictures the bag looks good though, so unless there is some sort of defect that really bothers you, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Edit: I purchased the Empreinte MPA last month which has the chip and used the NFC Tools app on my phone to scan the chip. So you can do the same if you want to confirm that there is a chip.
 
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As far as I acknowledge, out of stock on website at least in my town means they have it somewhere, you just need to call and ask where they have it.

I got my key pouch and Neverfull from a boutique when it showed out of stock on website.

Also I didn’t have price tag, I never really seen LV with price tag on. They do have product barcode, but does not mention the price.

I got my Neverfull almost 2 months ago, and no there was no date code.
 
As far as I acknowledge, out of stock on website at least in my town means they have it somewhere, you just need to call and ask where they have it.

I got my key pouch and Neverfull from a boutique when it showed out of stock on website.

Also I didn’t have price tag, I never really seen LV with price tag on. They do have product barcode, but does not mention the price.

I got my Neverfull almost 2 months ago, and no there was no date code.
Mine was the very last in the country. It was a floor model. The guy who sold it even showed me it was the last in all LV stock.

where was your neverfull produced?
 
As far as I acknowledge, out of stock on website at least in my town means they have it somewhere, you just need to call and ask where they have it.

I got my key pouch and Neverfull from a boutique when it showed out of stock on website.

Also I didn’t have price tag, I never really seen LV with price tag on. They do have product barcode, but does not mention the price.

I got my Neverfull almost 2 months ago, and no there was no date code.
Mine was the very last in the country. It is a floor model. The SA showed me his inventory for United States and mine was very last online or offline.
 
I see, it's hard to tell on the site if it's still for sale since Out of Stock can mean it's really out of stock at the moment or it's actually discontinued, so I wasn't sure which it was. I wouldn't worry too much about the little card it came with. I checked the packaging of a SLG I got last year and mine is not exactly crooked but it's not centered. I'm guessing they just print a ton of these out on a sheet of cardstock and then a machine punches it out to the right size.
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I'm not sure of when they started microchipping, I just know it was started in 2021. But I think even some of the bags made at the start of this year still had date codes. If yours is missing the date code then I think it's safe to assume it has a microchip so it probably hasn't been sitting around since last year. Whether or not it's a return will probably be impossible to find out. If it really is no longer being sold then I suppose it's possible that it's a return. It could have also been the floor model that remained unsold but was tried on by customers. From your pictures the bag looks good though, so unless there is some sort of defect that really bothers you, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Edit: I purchased the Empreinte MPA last month which has the chip and used the NFC Tools app on my phone to scan the chip. So you can do the same if you want to confirm that there is a chip.
I’ll have to download the app. Mine was a floor model, the very last in stock. Does it read the chip or just confirm there’s a cheap?
 
Offering a few thoughts here:
-The bag could be on shelf for a number of reasons, or a return or the SA might have even sourced it himself for you or someone else.
-The debris you mentioned could be something that happened after your purchase or could be from the black leather/canvas or the label inside against the lining. It’s not that uncommon for LV to sell out bags with minor quality defects.
-LV doesn’t do price tags
-The little paper you found is also common to all leather products
-Microchips were largely introduced March 2021 but were being tested late 2020 too so not uncommon for a 2020 produced bag to have one.
-You can used the NFC app as suggested that will bring up a serial number and some tech details but nothing LV related, this will just show the presence of a readable chip.
-However, since you found that small black tag I would suggest looking closer because the date code could be engraved slightly rather than printed and that’s why not so visible

Hope this helps!
 
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