Thinking about this a bit more, CeeJay, with all your infinite knowledge, would you mind naming the reds that you've found to have great leather? And the ones you've found to be lacking? It'd be a hugely appreciated PSA for those of us scouring evilbay and other sites for the perfect red BalI have seen Black Cherry, and it's BEAUTIFUL!! I would definitely say that the Black Cherry looks like a rich Bordeaux! Poupre was nice, but the leather was IMO .. thin. Of course, if you want a Wine color, there is always the '05 Burgundy or the '06 Grenat.

Thanks.