My Journey with Back of Head Augmentation in Korea

[ero]

@ashk

Wow, the results were better then I thought, overall i was just very worried and paranoid what if this or that, if anyone has a similar case as mine id recommend jogak

idk if your still active here but can you post a picture of the back of your head not a side view pic please

 

[ero]

So this was a journey that I definitely need to detail because I see no surgery reviews for head augmentation. But it’s a very powerful surgery that changes your head shape and can even affect hairstyles.


A bit about me: I live in California, USA. I’m 25 and male. I’m Indian, and quarter Middle Eastern…so I’m the other kind of Asian. Unfortunately I was born with a stupid skull shape officially called occipital plagiocephaly.


September 2017 – I wanted this surgery done. So I did research online and found 3 local options.


1) Barry Eppley – He offered a free video consult, so I took it. He seemed too positive, which is not a good sign. Also, he’s got a lot of complaints online which scared me. Just look it up on Google and you’ll see entire threads with a bunch of people complaining about botched results. Also a girl called Lucille Lacovelli filled a lawsuit against him, lost, and then committed suicide. So I didn’t want anything to do with him.

2) Youssef Tahari – He offered a free video consult too. His method didn’t seem too good for me. He suggested a bicoronal approach and inserting a silicone implant. This was bad because I didn’t want a scar over my head like that and I didn’t want a massive silicone implant in the back of my head.

3) Deschamps Braly – I called to set up an appointment, but their consultants appeared very snotty. They were quoting prices at $15,000 minimum and averaging at about $22,000. WTF. Also they refused to show any before and after pics due to BS reasons like “to protect the emotional state of their patients from the public”. They said I’d have to come into the consultation, which would cost me $600.


Basically all these options were too expensive and did not have convincing before and after results or testimonials.


October 2017 – I found out about purse forum. But they also didn’t have solid reviews detailing about this procedure. But I did find out some people mentioning ITEM clinic. They claimed that they could make a 2 inch incision and use bone cement (which is a lot safer than silicone) to reshape the head like a sculpture. I did a bit more research and I had my Korean Airbnb host Tony to help me out. I’ll write a separate post on Tony and how AMAZING he was in helping me. I booked the Korea Trip from Dec 21 2017 – Jan 1st 2018

I was able to find 4 clinics that offered to do the back of the head augmentation with bone cement.


1) Dec 22 2017 – Banobagi – Not very impressed. The doctor just said he could do it and didn’t go into further details. I also remember waiting for SO long but I felt let down in the actual meeting. Also, he did not show me any before and after pics. I crossed it off my list.


2) Dec 23 2017 – ITEM – I didn’t like the clinic itself, but Dr Jung was great. I enjoyed meeting him and he speaks very good English. I was close to choosing him but ITEM quoted at 8 mil KRW when over email they said it would be 6 mil KRW. They said they can reduce it to 7 mil KRW if we paid in hard cash. I wasted a lot of time trying to get this to work because, my bank had auto protect--I couldn’t withdraw such a large amount outside of America. This pissed both me and my Airbnb host Tony who acted as my translator off. So we crossed ITEM off. Also, I noticed a Youtube comment by a girl (Aja Ly) on Item’s YT video that didn’t like her results from Dr Jung. This was a bit upsetting.


3) Dec 26 2017 - BONEPS (Doctorbone) – Here’s a link to their site. http://doctorbone.co.kr/index.php?idx=hb/7

They are a local clinic that is not exposed to the outside. I found this out via Tony. The doctors were nice, but I didn’t like the before and after results.


4) Dec 27 2017 – JOGAK – This was it! I met Dr. Song. I liked this guy, his style, and his before and after. I immediately went for surgery. I paid around 6 million KRW. This clinic is a small clinic that SPECIALIZED in head augmentation. I love specialized clinics, so I knew this was the right place.



Surgery was easy. It was under local anesthesia. It’s literally like sculpting with clay. I wore a head cast and I was able to walk about. I went for Korean barbecue right after because I was so hungry.


I hope this helps! I know quite a few people who are following me through this journey. While I don’t have super perfect results, its still greatly improved. I look and feel normal now. I feel no difference texture wise. I’m so happy.

(Note, I usually don't wear my hair so short. I keep it long. I shave it sometimes but this time I kept it shaven just so I could help the surgeon out with the best possible outcome.)

Before: (Sorry for inverting these 2 pics, but it gives you a good sense of the asymmetry)

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Here are my results:

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Do you have a picture of the back of your head, the back view

 

[ero]

I am having this surgery next month in LA for building up the volume in my flat back of the head. Been dealing with it a long time, decided its now or never. Had some pretty good vibes from the Doctor doing the procedure using MMA. I have a very uniformally flat back of the head, braciocephaly. Hoping to achieve a desired result. Hope to see more posts from people here, I hope to update everyone assuming all goes well.

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Lineplastic?

 

[supdawg]

I am having this surgery next month in LA for building up the volume in my flat back of the head. Been dealing with it a long time, decided its now or never. Had some pretty good vibes from the Doctor doing the procedure using MMA. I have a very uniformally flat back of the head, braciocephaly. Hoping to achieve a desired result. Hope to see more posts from people here, I hope to update everyone assuming all goes well.

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Amazing I didn’t know they are using PMM now for this, but how much are they charging?

 

[donewithit2021]

I had the surgery today, I am fixed! Currently my head is wraped up for 3 days, but this is the immediate photo taken post op before they wrapped my head. I literally got done less than an hour ago and now back at my hotel. If you want to see the before just scroll up, but here is the after. I think i look normal now!

 

[supdawg]

does anyone know what are jogak latest prices ?

I had the surgery today, I am fixed! Currently my head is wraped up for 3 days, but this is the immediate photo taken post op before they wrapped my head. I literally got done less than an hour ago and now back at my hotel. If you want to see the before just scroll up, but here is the after. I think i look normal now!

I don’t see any difference in the mid part of the back which is the aesthetic of a perfectly round head, BUUUUUT it could be the haircut because is longer in the top! I swear when I get this done i’m getting a buzz cut , surgeons say it does not matter but it does!

Congrats! this must feel amazing, accomplishing something that bothered you for so long!

you have to tell us HOW MUCH they charge you!!! this was LA right? literally the main demographic for this procedure is man early 20s mid 30s who still in college or junior at a company who cannot afford JOGAK 6,000usd price tag, not adding to the fact you have to quarantine in Korea for 10 days before seeing then doctor adding extra to the cost!

How much did you pay? PMA right? no one cement ?

 

[donewithit2021]

does anyone know what are jogak latest prices ?


I don’t see any difference in the mid part of the back which is the aesthetic of a perfectly round head, BUUUUUT it could be the haircut because is longer in the top! I swear when I get this done i’m getting a buzz cut , surgeons say it does not matter but it does!

Congrats! this must feel amazing, accomplishing something that bothered you for so long!

you have to tell us HOW MUCH they charge you!!! this was LA right? literally the main demographic for this procedure is man early 20s mid 30s who still in college or junior at a company who cannot afford JOGAK 6,000usd price tag, not adding to the fact you have to quarantine in Korea for 10 days before seeing then doctor adding extra to the cost!

How much did you pay? PMA right? no one cement ?

I see a difference. And my hair is wet too, look at the before. I can live like this now. This is great and the main thing is i now look normal. They used MMA and the price was under 9 grand

 

[donewithit2021]

does anyone know what are jogak latest prices ?


I don’t see any difference in the mid part of the back which is the aesthetic of a perfectly round head, BUUUUUT it could be the haircut because is longer in the top! I swear when I get this done i’m getting a buzz cut , surgeons say it does not matter but it does!

Congrats! this must feel amazing, accomplishing something that bothered you for so long!

you have to tell us HOW MUCH they charge you!!! this was LA right? literally the main demographic for this procedure is man early 20s mid 30s who still in college or junior at a company who cannot afford JOGAK 6,000usd price tag, not adding to the fact you have to quarantine in Korea for 10 days before seeing then doctor adding extra to the cost!

How much did you pay? PMA right? no one cement ?

Also keep in mind that you need to be realistic about this procedure expecting perfection is expecting too much.. it all is based on how much your skin can stretch my skin was enough to accommodate 50 ML of MMA. From what I see so far I’m satisfied but when the gauze comes off in three days I’ll know the full result and eventually plan on shaving my head. But to be honest I think judging from a before picture I’m looking at the after, I feel that the result is actually way better than I expected and now my head shape is at least within normal range which is what I wanted, to look normal. Thank you!

 

[dpnot]

I had the surgery today, I am fixed! Currently my head is wraped up for 3 days, but this is the immediate photo taken post op before they wrapped my head. I literally got done less than an hour ago and now back at my hotel. If you want to see the before just scroll up, but here is the after. I think i look normal now!

Great results, congratulations! Wish you a speedy recovery

 

[donewithit2021]

Great results, congratulations! Wish you a speedy recovery

Thanks so much!

 

[supdawg]

9 grand WHAAAT? SCREW THAT/THEM!!!!!!!! The kilo of MMA costs them $0.23 cents of a dollar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no joke! the import price of PMMA is 3,840 U.S. dollars per ton… TON!!!!!! they insert you 3 pennie’s worth of it and charged you 9 grand, im sorry but even tho I feel happy for you and glad you achieved this we all want is time to expose this abusive pricing point by place like JOGAK & LINE, and I know I really know there’s a procedure involved maybe a nurse, but the process is like the cousin of getting botox and IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HAVING A CHILD AT AN HOSPITAL!?

If you guys defend these clinics for charging this much and being okay with it you either filthy rich, can’t understand the prices they should be doing when working with such wide known material or are borderline delusional, and it’s sad.

I would say this procedure everywhere should not pass $2,000 usd EVER.

 

[dpnot]

9 grand WHAAAT? SCREW THAT/THEM!!!!!!!! The kilo of MMA costs them $0.23 cents of a dollar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no joke! the import price of PMMA is 3,840 U.S. dollars per ton… TON!!!!!! they insert you 3 pennie’s worth of it and charged you 9 grand, im sorry but even tho I feel happy for you and glad you achieved this we all want is time to expose this abusive pricing point by place like JOGAK & LINE, and I know I really know there’s a procedure involved maybe a nurse, but the process is like the cousin of getting botox and IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HAVING A CHILD AT AN HOSPITAL!?

If you guys defend these clinics for charging this much and being okay with it you either filthy rich, can’t understand the prices they should be doing when working with such wide known material or are borderline delusional, and it’s sad.

I would say this procedure everywhere should not pass $2,000 usd EVER.

Dude.. you're paying for skills and knowledge not just for the material. Do you know how long it took for them and how much it cost to graduate med school? Right. We are not filthy rich, but there's not much you can do about it.

 

[donewithit2021]

9 grand WHAAAT? SCREW THAT/THEM!!!!!!!! The kilo of MMA costs them $0.23 cents of a dollar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no joke! the import price of PMMA is 3,840 U.S. dollars per ton… TON!!!!!! they insert you 3 pennie’s worth of it and charged you 9 grand, im sorry but even tho I feel happy for you and glad you achieved this we all want is time to expose this abusive pricing point by place like JOGAK & LINE, and I know I really know there’s a procedure involved maybe a nurse, but the process is like the cousin of getting botox and IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HAVING A CHILD AT AN HOSPITAL!?

If you guys defend these clinics for charging this much and being okay with it you either filthy rich, can’t understand the prices they should be doing when working with such wide known material or are borderline delusional, and it’s sad.

I would say this procedure everywhere should not pass $2,000 usd EVER.

I dont make the prices, and ultimately I dont care. I think that I would pay double that amount if I had to, because money comes and goes. But being self confident and having this problem fixed is worth more than any amount of money to me. You cant put a price on peace of mind and finally correcting a defect which I had to live with for 36 years of my life. The politics of the medical or plastic surgery business is what it is, we do not control that. Either you have the money or you dont. Thats a separate issue. Also, going to Korea and paying $6000 for this procedure in my opinion is a good price, but having to deal with quarantine and having this procedure in another country is far more complicated than having it done within my own country and being back home with my family soon is priceless to me. I paid less than $8000 for this to be done. Sure, it’s expensive. But going to Korea, buying plane tickets, the amount of time to fly there and then have to sit in quarantine for almost 2 weeks until you can even see the doctor is a whole lot more complicated to save the extra 2K vs just getting the surgery done stateside. I flew from Florida to LA and in my opinion a 4 hour flight, no quarantine, and having the surgery done same day allows me to have more peace of mind and get back home to my family with this behind me and over with. Nothing is cheap in this world, and especially beauty. Beauty is pain and expensive, but having this situation resolved is worth every penny I spent.

 

[donewithit2021]

9 grand WHAAAT? SCREW THAT/THEM!!!!!!!! The kilo of MMA costs them $0.23 cents of a dollar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no joke! the import price of PMMA is 3,840 U.S. dollars per ton… TON!!!!!! they insert you 3 pennie’s worth of it and charged you 9 grand, im sorry but even tho I feel happy for you and glad you achieved this we all want is time to expose this abusive pricing point by place like JOGAK & LINE, and I know I really know there’s a procedure involved maybe a nurse, but the process is like the cousin of getting botox and IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HAVING A CHILD AT AN HOSPITAL!?

If you guys defend these clinics for charging this much and being okay with it you either filthy rich, can’t understand the prices they should be doing when working with such wide known material or are borderline delusional, and it’s sad.

I would say this procedure everywhere should not pass $2,000 usd EVER.

Also, I made this post and even uploaded my photos without hiding anything to give anyone suffering from this condition hope in knowing that it can be fixed. I did not hide anything including my face. I hid for 36 years because of this condition, and Im so thankful that I dont have to hide anymore and can be proud and hold my head high knowing that this is now over. For anyone who reads this, just know that there is hope and it can be fixed. Just be realistic about the results, don’t expect perfection, but know that all it takes is some money and some patience and you can have this fixed!

 

[donewithit2021]

9 grand WHAAAT? SCREW THAT/THEM!!!!!!!! The kilo of MMA costs them $0.23 cents of a dollar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no joke! the import price of PMMA is 3,840 U.S. dollars per ton… TON!!!!!! they insert you 3 pennie’s worth of it and charged you 9 grand, im sorry but even tho I feel happy for you and glad you achieved this we all want is time to expose this abusive pricing point by place like JOGAK & LINE, and I know I really know there’s a procedure involved maybe a nurse, but the process is like the cousin of getting botox and IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HAVING A CHILD AT AN HOSPITAL!?

If you guys defend these clinics for charging this much and being okay with it you either filthy rich, can’t understand the prices they should be doing when working with such wide known material or are borderline delusional, and it’s sad.

I would say this procedure everywhere should not pass $2,000 usd EVER.

Also, if you think 8-9 grand is expensive, go to Barry Eppley in Indiana and have him screw an implant in your head for $25,000 which is 3 times the price. Just dont forget that with him, its not a simple procedure, and you have to walk around with a damn balloon in your head for almost 2 months to expand the tissue before you can even have the surgery. And then you have to hope he even places that cheap silicone implant in your head correctly. Its a far more complicated and way more costly procedure than the one I had done. Whatever you decide though, goodluck to you.