Michael Jackson (1958 - 2009)

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nikitadb said:
Martin's version of the interview is distorted. Watch "Living With Michael Jackson, Take Two". It's more complete.

After watching this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0vZwDkctFM&feature=related

I believe Michael is the biological father of Prince and Paris. No doubt. Absolutely no doubt.
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Thank you for posting this viedo. Michael is his children's biological father. There is no doubt about it.

There are many moms left their children behind. I don't know why people are so judgemental when this happend between Michael and Debbie? Debbie is Michael's true friend, and she wants Michael be happy. I wish Michael's children will be in good hand who will truly love them and raise them in a loving environment.

God bless Michael and his lovely children.
 
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LovinMyMulberry said:
Men in prison only have themselves to blame for being there - I dont think that can be used as a comparison.

As for Michael's friends ... have you ever felt completely alone, even in a room full of people? I have the most wonderful friends in the world (as far as Im concerned), but there have been times when I have felt SO completely alone. Times when I havent contacted my friends as I didnt want them to know how down I was etc etc. I do believe that Michael was the kind of person who also would generally hide his feelings, for the sake of others.
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I was responding to a very dramatic statement made by Latoya. I was saying that perhaps MJ wasn't really the loneliest man in the world. He had some good friends, a few close siblings and great kids. Somehow I think there are people without all that who might be lonelier.

As I wrote, I have mixed feeling about Latoya, I never know what to think of her.
 
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So sad. If someone has the money and wants to be on drugs... how do you get them off? They have to want to, you can't force them.
Jackson Targeted Dentists to Fuel Addiction

Posted Jul 12th 2009 8:57AM


Doctors aren't the only ones in the cross hairs of authorities who want to find out how Michael Jackson scored various drugs, including anesthesia -- turns out Jackson knew his way around various dental offices as well.

As we have already reported, medical professionals have told TMZ Jackson was an "anesthesia addict," who would would seek out Propofoland other drugs that would sedate him or knock him out. Law enforcement is aware of this, sources say, and dental offices are part of their investigation.

Several Los Angeles doctors have told TMZ it was known in medical circles that Jackson used dentists to feed his habit.

A story just published in the Las Vegas Review-Journal buttresses the stories we've been reporting -- that Jackson had "doctor shopping" down to a science. According to the report, in 2003, a doctor (who spoke on the condition of anonymity) was summoned to Jackson's suite at the Mirage in Vegas.

The doctor says Jackson complained of a sore throat and cough and quickly determined it was a ploy to score prescription drugs. The doctor said, "The whole thing was staged. It was all a lie. They just wanted drugs. They wanted me to call in all these pills under someone else's name."

The doctor says when he refused to go along, Jackson's handlers intimidated him, saying doctors always helped the singer. The MD says at one point he said, "I'll see what I can do," and the handler "came up to me and put a finger in my chest and said 'You do that.'"
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LovinMyMulberry said:
Men in prison only have themselves to blame for being there - I dont think that can be used as a comparison.

As for Michael's friends ... have you ever felt completely alone, even in a room full of people? I have the most wonderful friends in the world (as far as Im concerned), but there have been times when I have felt SO completely alone. Times when I havent contacted my friends as I didnt want them to know how down I was etc etc. I do believe that Michael was the kind of person who also would generally hide his feelings, for the sake of others.

Im not sure how else to put into words what Im trying to say ... but sometimes no matter the amount of wonderful friends you have, who love you for who you are ... you can still feel terribly alone in the world. Ive been there .. I know :sad:
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Amen. that is sooo true.

even if you have a big family. I know how it feels. Like you think that people wouldnt understand your feelings so you dont bother telling anybody. yup
 
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LovinMyMulberry said:
I dont think he was 100% responsible for what ended up in the final show to be honest .. but at the end of the days, what's done is done. No point in piling energy into something that cannot be changed.
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then why even comment on it in the first place?:confused1: Or even mention 99% of what is in this thread since it cannot be changed anyway?

I am one of the people who think what Bashir did was completely unethical and its his responsibility, and I wanted to understand why you think I should blame the editing team if Bashir himself rerecorded different questions from the ones that were really asked and made comments opposite to what he said during the interview - he is a professional after all, how possible is that he didnt know what the final cut was.
 
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nataliam1976 said:
then why even comment on it in the first place?:confused1: Or even mention 99% of what is in this thread since it cannot be changed anyway?

I am one of the people who think what Bashir did was completely unethical and its his responsibility, and I wanted to understand why you think I should blame the editing team if Bashir himself rerecorded different questions from the ones that were really asked and made comments opposite to what he said during the interview - he is a professional after all, how possible is that he didnt know what the final cut was.
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I meant I dont pile my energy into hating him - like I mentioned in another answer. (Perhaps you missed that one?!) Yeah its horrible - but whats the point in going after him like a hound when what's done is done. Plenty people made bad shows about MJ over the years - plenty people reported bad things in the press. His own sister said pretty shocking things about him in the past - do you hate her too?

I also mentioned I know his family, I know they are lovely & Im pretty sure that even though he is in the press, he still has some sort of conscience - as he was brought up in a very good, loving family. Im also pretty sure that even HE regrets what has happened. I cant go into what I know too much - purely cos I dont really want my ass getting sued thanks - but there are plenty of others involved in the editing & yes he may be partly responsible for it - but he isnt wholy responsible.

Where did I say that he didnt know what the final cut was? I dont recall saying that! (That'll be because I didnt!!) At the end of the day, the executives of TV companies will show what they want to show, cos they want the ratings!! The reporters/presenters get a fair amount of input but they dont get 100% say-so on what happens.

At the end of the day - this is a public forum, where everyone is going to have differing opinions. Im allowed mine .. as are you. Im just pointing out what I know.
 
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LovinMyMulberry said:
I meant I dont pile my energy into hating him - like I mentioned in another answer. (Perhaps you missed that one?!) Yeah its horrible - but whats the point in going after him like a hound when what's done is done. Plenty people made bad shows about MJ over the years - plenty people reported bad things in the press. His own sister said pretty shocking things about him in the past - do you hate her too?

I also mentioned I know his family, I know they are lovely & Im pretty sure that even though he is in the press, he still has some sort of conscience - as he was brought up in a very good, loving family. Im also pretty sure that even HE regrets what has happened. I cant go into what I know too much - purely cos I dont really want my ass getting sued thanks - but there are plenty of others involved in the editing & yes he may be partly responsible for it - but he isnt wholy responsible.

Where did I say that he didnt know what the final cut was? I dont recall saying that! (That'll be because I didnt!!) At the end of the day, the executives of TV companies will show what they want to show, cos they want the ratings!! The reporters/presenters get a fair amount of input but they dont get 100% say-so on what happens.

At the end of the day - this is a public forum, where everyone is going to have differing opinions. Im allowed mine .. as are you. Im just pointing out what I know.
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I never said I hated him (:confused1:) I just saw the documentary made by Povich and merely have an opinion about him, Im not sitting all day channelling bad thoughts, KWIM?;)


When I said that about the final cut, its because I feel that if he saw it and signed it with his name, then he is repsonsible for the content, Im sorry if I didnt make it clear.

I also never said that I do not allow you your opinion, I just asked for clarification, I believe that is different. And thank you for replying and giving more info about your point of view, I of course understand if you cant give all the details.
 
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