I mentioned this to my SA since I wanted to purchase the small pave frivole and she said it’s she has get manager to approve it , which they can decline and will cost me around $1k or more.Hi! My ear piercings are really small too, the mall gun problem! I would ask for VCA to swap out to the thinnest post which is what I did. To be grose for a second, the posts were so thick, they made my ears bleed.
As for tightness, no, they will not fall off as long as the post goes through the clip. The clip tension will not allow it to fall off as once the post goes through the clip, it forms a "locked bar" so the earring cannot just fall off.
I posted a photo below to show you my drama with earrings.
Forgive me if you already read my story, but I'll repeat it here again just in case as you seem to have the exact same issues I have (posts too thick, clip too tight).
The first photo shows an example. The left earring is my Lotus, center is VA, and right is Frivole.
The Lotus earring is wrong. I had to send these earrings in three times to get it right. I won't bore you with the problem each time, but this photo was attempt #2. The problem is the post. It is too thick and too long (compare it to the other two earrings). The problem with posts that are too long is that you now need to squish your ear lobe a bit to feed it through your hole. It may be hard to imagine, but I posted a second photo for you to visualize.
In the second photo, first, look at the length of the clip (the hinged part). You can see the clips are the same length in both earrings. With the VA earring on the right, the post is a good length, so you can easily feed the post through the ear piercing. With the Lotus earring, the post is so long, you need to squish your ear lobe or move the earring to an awkward angle to feed the post through the ear piercing because that post is too long. I hope that makes sense. An extreme example is imagine if the post was the same length as the clip. It would be a major pain to put on as now it is a super super long post to feed through the ear piercing. Hence, be careful they do not give you a post that is too long.
Sorry for the long writeup here, but I hope this helps.
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What did you ask for? All my work was done free, and it says on the VCA website earring adjustments are free. My guess is your request was something not standard. A lot of people get their earrings adjusted and it is free.
I have the small Frivole pave earrings and had those adjusted as well at no cost (it’s the earring to the far right in my photo).
SA said the small frivole doesn’t sit right on my ears. The clip was too short? bottom of my ear gets folded, if that makes any sens, on one of my ear.
Yes, it does make sense. For that ear, your ear piercing might be higher, but my guess is the logical answer would be that ear has a larger/thicker bottom earlobe. Hence, the clip requires more space to eliminate the fold. I can see how VCA would charge as that would be a custom work.
If you love the earrings, I would do it. $1K is not much to get these gorgeous earrings to fit properly. I was wearing my Frivole set today (earrings and ring), and I really love love love the earrings. The flower is so beautiful, and the bling is quite sparkly.
You are amazing, so much knowledge! I was thinking of doing it but then SA said she needs to get it approved and they might reject it. She wasn’t very helpful. So now I’m thinking of getting the VA in WG pave, but wait is 8 month!
any thoughts on those earring?
Hi! My thoughts on the VA pave earrings...
First, I think with your earlobe, the VA pave earrings may fit you better. I posted a photo below where you can see the Frivole and the VA MOP. You can see the clip on the VA earrings has more length from the post to the bottom of the clip. This is what you need to accommodate your earlobe, length. There is also more depth in case you also have thick earlobes. You can see in Frivole, it is a bit shorter, but that tiny bit might make the difference. The Frivole back is also curved, thus taking up space.
From a pure fit perspective, I think the VA pave may work.
That said, I do not have the VA pave. Why?
Because I don't think it's blingy enough. I tried it on, and it did not wow me. It was pretty, but I saw an Alhambra earring on my ear, not a blingy diamond earring. To me, the VA pave earring has a lot of metal, especially the metal dot in the center which is the part of VA pave I do not like. To me, it is more a metal earring with a few sprinkled diamonds. Frivole, on the other hand, is definitely a true blingy diamond pave piece. There is minimum metal in Frivole, and for diamond pieces, I like minimal metal to let the the diamonds shine and be the star (no competition with metal).
If you are looking for a blingy pave earrings, hands down Frivole will win.
If you are looking to buy VA earrings that are iconic with a little sparkle, the VA pave is a good choice. However, for VA earrings, I prefer a stone more so than pave. I think a big solid stone stands out more than the pave piece. You can tell VA pave is my last choice, but that's just me!
It's 100% preference.
Here is the photo again of VA (center) and Frivole (far right). You can see a comparison of the distance from the horizontal post to the bottom of the clip in ear earring. Do you also see how Frivole curves in and has less space vs. VA is more straight in the back with more space?
Take time to stare at the back of the earring and also the clip, and you will see the difference. There is definitely more room with VA. I think your little earlobe will be happy he can stretch out and be comfy in the VAs.
Just my thoughts here. Hope this was helpful.
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Thank you so much for all your knowledgable insights. You are absolutely right about VA fits better for my earlobes. I have them in all sizes. And my SA also mentioned I might not like the pave VA due to the same reasons you stated. I tried on the mini frivole, looked better on my ears but I felt it wasn't substantial. My earring journey will continu. Any suggestion?Hi! My thoughts on the VA pave earrings...
First, I think with your earlobe, the VA pave earrings may fit you better. I posted a photo below where you can see the Frivole and the VA MOP. You can see the clip on the VA earrings has more length from the post to the bottom of the clip. This is what you need to accommodate your earlobe, length. There is also more depth in case you also have thick earlobes. You can see in Frivole, it is a bit shorter, but that tiny bit might make the difference. The Frivole back is also curved, thus taking up space.
From a pure fit perspective, I think the VA pave may work.
That said, I do not have the VA pave. Why?
Because I don't think it's blingy enough. I tried it on, and it did not wow me. It was pretty, but I saw an Alhambra earring on my ear, not a blingy diamond earring. To me, the VA pave earring has a lot of metal, especially the metal dot in the center which is the part of VA pave I do not like. To me, it is more a metal earring with a few sprinkled diamonds. Frivole, on the other hand, is definitely a true blingy diamond pave piece. There is minimum metal in Frivole, and for diamond pieces, I like minimal metal to let the the diamonds shine and be the star (no competition with metal).
If you are looking for a blingy pave earrings, hands down Frivole will win.
If you are looking to buy VA earrings that are iconic with a little sparkle, the VA pave is a good choice. However, for VA earrings, I prefer a stone more so than pave. I think a big solid stone stands out more than the pave piece. You can tell VA pave is my last choice, but that's just me!
It's 100% preference.
Here is the photo again of VA (center) and Frivole (far right). You can see a comparison of the distance from the horizontal post to the bottom of the clip in ear earring. Do you also see how Frivole curves in and has less space vs. VA is more straight in the back with more space?
Take time to stare at the back of the earring and also the clip, and you will see the difference. There is definitely more room with VA. I think your little earlobe will be happy he can stretch out and be comfy in the VAs.
Just my thoughts here. Hope this was helpful.
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Yes, I don't think you will like VA pave, not blingy enough. I agree on mini Frivole, too tiny, not a bold serious look if that makes sense. I think I have a feel for the look you're going for.. blingy and glamorous, not girly.
I think you will like Lotus. Lotus will be the perfect fit for you. Why? Two reasons:
Take a look at the photo again... Lotus is the earring on the far left. You can see it has a lot of width and height to accommodate your earlobe. However, here is the best part... look at where the post is positioned relative to the position of the flower. The post is high, at the "top" of the flower. This means the earring will sit lower on your ear, which is what you want. I think this will look great against your earlobe.
By contrast, look at Frivole. The post is in the "center" of the flower... do you see the difference? This means the Frivole earring, with the post being being lower, will sit higher on your ear lobe which is what you don't want.
I have drama with my ears too, but I am the opposite of you. My ear piercing is really low, so I like earrings that sit higher. Hence Frivole is perfect for me. The Frivole flower is 50% on my earlobe and 50% hanging below the earlobe, which is my perfect position. It's still a stud look, yet it creates a slight dangly look without being a true dangle earring.
With the Lotus earrings, the earring is 25% on my earlobe and 75% hanging below the earlobe. 25% on the ear lobe is not enough for my preference; it looks off to me a bit. But... beggars can't be choosey, and I needed to get the Lotus earrings to match the ring. It is not an earring I love though. Since your ears are opposite mine, I think you will love how this earring fits on you.
The other flower earring to try on is Cosmos. It's very sparkly, and it shows a bit chunkier than Lotus or Frivole. You may like that too. The only thing with Cosmos is be sure to look at the metal bezel and see if you like it. I personally feel the metal bezel takes away from the pave look. I see both the metal and diamonds compete, and for pave, I want all diamond bling, minimum metal. Some people love Cosmos though. I still vote Lotus over Cosmos!
Try on Lotus and see if you like it. Remember you can still make the other adjustments, especially if it's too tight. I recall Lotus earrings are set tighter, not sure why.
Stare at the photo and the placement of the Lotus flower to the post vs. the Frivole flower to the post.
My gut says Lotus will fit you a lot better! Plus, it will give you that diamond bling you want!
If you really really love Frivole (it is my favorite VCA collection!), you can always ask to see if they will adjust. Every earlobe is unique, and I am 100% sure you are not the first person with this issue. One other option... my SA told me VCA is planning to offer regular push back posts for their earrings, especially for clients who do not like clips (e.g. big earlobe issue!). He says clients have requested it as some clients hate clips. Your SA may not know this (she didn't sound super helpful), but you can perhaps kindly mention you heard this and ask directly "can you please find out the cost for this option." This will take the spotlight off her, and it will prompt her to really ask vs. giving you a canned answer because now she knows you know it can be done. I actually read somewhere in this forum, a TPFer had her backs changed to push backs. I forgot who it was. Maybe you can post the question and get their experience if you decide to pursue this option.
I hope that was helpful. Earrings can be truly be a pain. I just bought a ring, not VCA, but another brand. I am having earrings made as the matching earrings were dangling earrings, and I do not wear dangles. They are designing the earring for me, and I am dreading it.
Good luck to you. I really think you will like Lotus though.
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One more thing I want to add…
Cosmos in WG is MTO. There is no uplift in price, but it is just not part of regular stock (Cosmos is not a popular line per my SA). You will have to try the Cosmos earrings on in RG if you are interested.
Just FYI in case your SA says it’s not available in WG. She is technically correct for “in stock” pieces, but you can order.
Hope all of this is helpful.
Cosmos in WG is MTO. There is no uplift in price, but it is just not part of regular stock (Cosmos is not a popular line per my SA). You will have to try the Cosmos earrings on in RG if you are interested.
Just FYI in case your SA says it’s not available in WG. She is technically correct for “in stock” pieces, but you can order.
Hope all of this is helpful.
Thank you so much for all the detail, thorough information. Thank you for taking time to explain and all the suggestion.
I have an appointment on Monday to pick up and I will ask to see the lots and cosmos.
Thank you again
Well, I tried on the lotus, they only had the mini and it was too small. SA didn’t know when she will get the small in. I asked about frivole earrings possibly changing the post but unfortunately didn’t really get an answer. I tried on the small pave frivole pendant and loved it, so I might just purchase the pendant and look elsewhere for earrings. Thank you again for all your insights
Has anyone ordered a lotus ring recently? I am based in US and put a doposit on the lotus ring more than a month ago as my SA said that's the only way in order for them to get the rings in the store for me to try on. My SA ordered two rings in different sizes base on her best estimates and told me it's possible that both rings might not fit but we can order different sizes to try on if that happens. Last week, she told me one of the ring would come to store sometime in November and there is no ETA for the other ring yet. It appears to me that they still have some production issue that it takes such a long time for them to get the lotus ring in the store. My concern is that I won't be able to have two rings to try on at the same time to feel which one is more suitable. The worst of all is that if both of rings don't work, I will have to wait another 7 months to receive a different size ring. It's really tough to shop these days w/o even a chance to see the jewelries in person.
I ordered mine in April 2021, and I think I got mine late May 2021. My SA originally said it could take up to 6 months, but it was fast (I paid in full, not a deposit).
On sizing, I knew I was either a 52 or 53 based on other rings. The store had the 52 which fit me fine, but I felt it was a tiny bit tighter than I liked (for fat finger days), so I ordered the 53. The 53 is a tiny bit loose (my perfect size is 52 1/2), but I prefer my rings looser than tighter.
On how it fits... even though VCA advertises Lotus as a BTF ring, it is not an open shank. The shank is fully closed, similar to a real ring, so you should be pretty close to your normal ring size. You can pick a ring you own that is a medium width shank (shank width matters in sizing fit), see what size that is, and that's probably your Lotus ring size.
As FYI, for Frivole WG pave BTF ring, because it is an open shank, I am one size down, a 52. This is because it is an open shank.
Good luck to you! You'll love the Lotus ring when you receive it. I wear mine often; it's a very fun ring. It's worth the wait. If you're matchy matchy, you'll want the earrings too!
Thank you so much BigAkoya! It's good to hear that there is still some chance the ring could arrive earlier. My SA didn't ask me to pay in full and I am not sure if paying in full would expedite the process. She told me the orders were sent to the France workshop and it takes some time for them to make the rings.
Regarding the sizing, my SA let me try on different size rings in the store to pick up the smallest one that fits both my middle finger and ring finger which is size 51. My ring finger is thinner(size 49) but my SA said the ring would have to fit both fingers when wearing open. She also ordered size 52 as she said people tend to order slightly larger size ring from her experience. I think what she described to me is consistent with what you mentioned about closed medium width shank. I hope one of them would be the right ring for me.
I searched the forum and found your photos that the lotus ring looks magnificent on you! I am breaking the bank for the ring already...matching earrings have to wait till next year.
Only the closed shank only needs to fit through your ring finger. The second "ring" is fully opened, so it fits any size.
I have a super fat knuckle on my middle finger. My ring finger is a size 53, but if I had to wear a ring on my middle finger, I would need a 57 to make it past the fat knuckle.
My regular ring size is 53, and the Lotus 53 worked perfect. The second "ring" on the Lotus is an open shank, so whether you wear the ring closed or open, it does not matter (you can look at photos see how big the open shank is).
Before I bought the ring, I told my SA my fat knuckle problem and was really worried I could not wear the Lotus ring. He is very knowledgeable and said not to worry, the open shank is very big and will slide right through. He was right.
My gut says a 49 or 50 is your size as you said the 49 fits your ring finger.
I hope you get it soon!