Korean Plastic Surgery Clinic Review?

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@Justn27 Thanks for offering some insight! I was curious if you had any insight into a few issues I found confusing.
1. A lot of famous plastic surgeons with good reps aren't listed in the "official" directory for certified plastic surgeons (www.prskorea.co.kr) - like the Noselab head dr, surgeons at 365mc, and others with good reputations. What's going on? Is it safe to go to these people even without a certification or license in plastic surgery?
2. Why do so many doctors not use an anesthesiologist in the OR? I've heard a ton of plastic surgeons say that they administer it anddddd monitor. I think this is a little scary even though it isn't general anesthesia usually...
3. Why do surgeons here use sleeping anesthesia over general? In the US, all the consults I went to said they used GA. What's the benefit to using sleeping?
Hi @kangaroosnack

1. I first would like to ask how you determined that these plastic surgeons are “famous?” I imagine it's pretty subjective and potentially heavily influenced by lots of money thrown towards marketing. But I could be wrong. I mentioned it briefly before but there are doctors doing plastic surgery that are not board certified plastic surgeons, but are doctors nonetheless. A board certified ENT Doctor might have opened a clinic and is doing rhinoplasties. He/she is experienced with that space and making cosmetic changes - though might not have been initially his/her area of expertise, expanded their skill set and is now doing those cosmetic procedures. Not necessarily a bad thing and with enough experience and they may be really good at aesthetic results. But when/if that doctor expands into breast augs, v-line, other more complicated operations that’s where - personally - I would hope the doctor is a board certified plastic surgeon.
In regards to looking up board certified plastic surgeons - are you searching for the doctor here - plasticsurgery.or.kr/eng/search ? And they’re not listed? Play with the spelling of their name. If you can type in Korean and you have their Korean spelling, it might be easier… but just for example… Park can be sometimes spelled Pak, Paik, Baek. Play with the spelling of the names, maybe only try the first name and cross reference locations. Or check the hospital/clinics website and look at the doctors’ credentials. See where they trained, fellowships, what area they were trained, what papers they wrote. This will give you an indication of their specialty sometimes. If they have an English website, try that. If they also have a main korean website - use google translator in Chrome. Usually Korean websites have a lot more thorough and updated information. Or just ask the doctor/clinic if the doctor is a board certified plastic surgeon. It’s a yes/no question.

2. Cost. In a smaller clinic where it would be too expensive to hire an anesthesiologist full time, some may contract one for the day if available, or as you mentioned, the doctor may have trained and learned how to administer it themselves. Depending on the scope of the operation it could be ok… but it also does present an additional risk. Just like how non “PS board certified” doctors are doing plastic surgery, there are non “anesthesiology board-certified” doctors administering anesthesia. All doctors (including PS) are cross trained during their residency, so administering shots of local anesthesia and/or sedation isn’t too far out of scope of their experience.

3.Sedation vs. General anesthesia. Why? Simple. Cost. General anesthesia is expensive and requires another doctor to monitor. If the cost of the operation is less, patients can be charged less and/or the clinic’s profit margins can be improved. From what I understand, patients under general anesthesia are easier to work with for the surgeon. The patient is in a more relaxed state and knocked out. Depending on the type of procedure - larger/more invasive, it is usually always preferred. However, some larger procedures can be done with local anesthesia and sedation. It’s a little more difficult for the surgeon (again, depending on the operation), and the patient’s body isn’t as relaxed. However, I’m not sure about the post-op experience for the patient, but the patient is knocked out in both cases during the operation. Perhaps others can chime in. I would be really curious to hear. But again, to answer your question - it’s cost saving. So while clinics are pressured to lower prices, due to various factors, in order to stay competitive and in business, they have to figure out ways to reduce costs while maintaining the quality and prices that attract patients. If you really want general anesthesia - tell the doctor you’d prefer to go under and ask how much more it would cost if they were able to hire an anesthesiologist for your operation. After I finished writing this, I found this on Realself.. And thought it was helpful - https://www.realself.com/question/maui-breast-augmentation-general-anesthesia-iv-sedation

Hope that helps!!! Again - please feel free to chime in if anyone would like to add or share!
 
As a surgeon in the US, agree with Justn27. General anesthesia is more costly as you need an anesthesiologist or CRNA. Conscious sedation can be administered by a surgeon as we are trained in this. The need for general anesthesia depends on procedure and surgeon preference/comfort. In terms of postop, recovery after GA takes more time and requires closer monitoring as stronger sedatives are used. Justn27, do you have recommendations for a good clinic for more minor cosmetic procedures (eg. botox/mole removal/laser lifts etc) since you have had these procedures?
Hi @kangaroosnack

1. I first would like to ask how you determined that these plastic surgeons are “famous?” I imagine it's pretty subjective and potentially heavily influenced by lots of money thrown towards marketing. But I could be wrong. I mentioned it briefly before but there are doctors doing plastic surgery that are not board certified plastic surgeons, but are doctors nonetheless. A board certified ENT Doctor might have opened a clinic and is doing rhinoplasties. He/she is experienced with that space and making cosmetic changes - though might not have been initially his/her area of expertise, expanded their skill set and is now doing those cosmetic procedures. Not necessarily a bad thing and with enough experience and they may be really good at aesthetic results. But when/if that doctor expands into breast augs, v-line, other more complicated operations that’s where - personally - I would hope the doctor is a board certified plastic surgeon.
In regards to looking up board certified plastic surgeons - are you searching for the doctor here - plasticsurgery.or.kr/eng/search ? And they’re not listed? Play with the spelling of their name. If you can type in Korean and you have their Korean spelling, it might be easier… but just for example… Park can be sometimes spelled Pak, Paik, Baek. Play with the spelling of the names, maybe only try the first name and cross reference locations. Or check the hospital/clinics website and look at the doctors’ credentials. See where they trained, fellowships, what area they were trained, what papers they wrote. This will give you an indication of their specialty sometimes. If they have an English website, try that. If they also have a main korean website - use google translator in Chrome. Usually Korean websites have a lot more thorough and updated information. Or just ask the doctor/clinic if the doctor is a board certified plastic surgeon. It’s a yes/no question.

2. Cost. In a smaller clinic where it would be too expensive to hire an anesthesiologist full time, some may contract one for the day if available, or as you mentioned, the doctor may have trained and learned how to administer it themselves. Depending on the scope of the operation it could be ok… but it also does present an additional risk. Just like how non “PS board certified” doctors are doing plastic surgery, there are non “anesthesiology board-certified” doctors administering anesthesia. All doctors (including PS) are cross trained during their residency, so administering shots of local anesthesia and/or sedation isn’t too far out of scope of their experience.

3.Sedation vs. General anesthesia. Why? Simple. Cost. General anesthesia is expensive and requires another doctor to monitor. If the cost of the operation is less, patients can be charged less and/or the clinic’s profit margins can be improved. From what I understand, patients under general anesthesia are easier to work with for the surgeon. The patient is in a more relaxed state and knocked out. Depending on the type of procedure - larger/more invasive, it is usually always preferred. However, some larger procedures can be done with local anesthesia and sedation. It’s a little more difficult for the surgeon (again, depending on the operation), and the patient’s body isn’t as relaxed. However, I’m not sure about the post-op experience for the patient, but the patient is knocked out in both cases during the operation. Perhaps others can chime in. I would be really curious to hear. But again, to answer your question - it’s cost saving. So while clinics are pressured to lower prices, due to various factors, in order to stay competitive and in business, they have to figure out ways to reduce costs while maintaining the quality and prices that attract patients. If you really want general anesthesia - tell the doctor you’d prefer to go under and ask how much more it would cost if they were able to hire an anesthesiologist for your operation. After I finished writing this, I found this on Realself.. And thought it was helpful - https://www.realself.com/question/maui-breast-augmentation-general-anesthesia-iv-sedation

Hope that helps!!! Again - please feel free to chime in if anyone would like to add or share!
 
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Hi @Chloebythesea thank you for sharing your insights! In regards to recommendations for minor cosmetic procedures - I know a few doctors that recently opened they're own clinics in the Gangnam area and I'm sure they would love to have you there. All three doctors speak english, one of the doctors from what I understand is pretty fixed on her prices, but she is a female plastic surgeon. The other two are men - both good guys and very experienced. If you want their clinic names, send me a direct message and I'll share. With that said, mole removal, laser lifts, and other minimally/non-invasive procudures are pretty minor and almost any private plastic surgery clinic can handle it - maybe go for the best price? For fillers and botox - there is a bit of artistry to it and minor risks of hitting facial nerves - so maybe be a bit more picky with the doctor? (ie. make sure you see a board certified PS). I'm guessing you know all this already. FYI - in Korea - only doctors are allowed to admininster fillers and botox (unlike the states), and techincally, they're only allowed to administer from the hospital/clinic - no house call allowed in Korea and no "certified" non-doctors should be doing fillers/botox.
 
Hi @Chloebythesea thank you for sharing your insights! In regards to recommendations for minor cosmetic procedures - I know a few doctors that recently opened they're own clinics in the Gangnam area and I'm sure they would love to have you there. All three doctors speak english, one of the doctors from what I understand is pretty fixed on her prices, but she is a female plastic surgeon. The other two are men - both good guys and very experienced. If you want their clinic names, send me a direct message and I'll share. With that said, mole removal, laser lifts, and other minimally/non-invasive procudures are pretty minor and almost any private plastic surgery clinic can handle it - maybe go for the best price? For fillers and botox - there is a bit of artistry to it and minor risks of hitting facial nerves - so maybe be a bit more picky with the doctor? (ie. make sure you see a board certified PS). I'm guessing you know all this already. FYI - in Korea - only doctors are allowed to admininster fillers and botox (unlike the states), and techincally, they're only allowed to administer from the hospital/clinic - no house call allowed in Korea and no "certified" non-doctors should be doing fillers/botox.
Justn27, can you please DM the clinic names? As a new member, I don't think I can DM you.
 
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Hello, all! I just want to share my experience of my double eyelid and eyebag surgery in Korea last week. I did it at on Soonplus plastic surgery clinic with Dr Kim Soon Dong. Dr Kim is absolutely specialized in eye surgeries that’s why I picked this clinic after consultation with several other clinics. The surgery was absolutely successful and the staffs there were very kind and supportive. The surgeon checked my eye very carefully and designed it a few times before the surgery (it took almost 15minutes!). The surgery not only helped to correct the shape of my eyes but also help to minimize the wrinkles on my forehead. I got non-incisional double eyelid+ptosis correction and eyebag reposition. It took about 2hours and no scars at all! I didn’t feel much pain during the operation even after the surgery as well. They also provide deswelling laser after the surgery, I think it helps alot to deswell and reduce bruising. Overall I definitely recommend this clinic, it's only famous of locals I think. There were lots of locals I couldn't see any foreigners. That makes me more comfortable. Hope this helps with your journey to Korea!
 
Hello, all! I just want to share my experience of my double eyelid and eyebag surgery in Korea last week. I did it at on Soonplus plastic surgery clinic with Dr Kim Soon Dong. Dr Kim is absolutely specialized in eye surgeries that’s why I picked this clinic after consultation with several other clinics. The surgery was absolutely successful and the staffs there were very kind and supportive. The surgeon checked my eye very carefully and designed it a few times before the surgery (it took almost 15minutes!). The surgery not only helped to correct the shape of my eyes but also help to minimize the wrinkles on my forehead. I got non-incisional double eyelid+ptosis correction and eyebag reposition. It took about 2hours and no scars at all! I didn’t feel much pain during the operation even after the surgery as well. They also provide deswelling laser after the surgery, I think it helps alot to deswell and reduce bruising. Overall I definitely recommend this clinic, it's only famous of locals I think. There were lots of locals I couldn't see any foreigners. That makes me more comfortable. Hope this helps with your journey to Korea!

Would you be able to DM me ballpark costs? Thanks
 
Hi @Chloebythesea thank you for sharing your insights! In regards to recommendations for minor cosmetic procedures - I know a few doctors that recently opened they're own clinics in the Gangnam area and I'm sure they would love to have you there. All three doctors speak english, one of the doctors from what I understand is pretty fixed on her prices, but she is a female plastic surgeon. The other two are men - both good guys and very experienced. If you want their clinic names, send me a direct message and I'll share. With that said, mole removal, laser lifts, and other minimally/non-invasive procudures are pretty minor and almost any private plastic surgery clinic can handle it - maybe go for the best price? For fillers and botox - there is a bit of artistry to it and minor risks of hitting facial nerves - so maybe be a bit more picky with the doctor? (ie. make sure you see a board certified PS). I'm guessing you know all this already. FYI - in Korea - only doctors are allowed to admininster fillers and botox (unlike the states), and techincally, they're only allowed to administer from the hospital/clinic - no house call allowed in Korea and no "certified" non-doctors should be doing fillers/botox.
Hi @Justn27 can you share with me also? Thanks!
 
Hi @Chloebythesea thank you for sharing your insights! In regards to recommendations for minor cosmetic procedures - I know a few doctors that recently opened they're own clinics in the Gangnam area and I'm sure they would love to have you there. All three doctors speak english, one of the doctors from what I understand is pretty fixed on her prices, but she is a female plastic surgeon. The other two are men - both good guys and very experienced. If you want their clinic names, send me a direct message and I'll share. With that said, mole removal, laser lifts, and other minimally/non-invasive procudures are pretty minor and almost any private plastic surgery clinic can handle it - maybe go for the best price? For fillers and botox - there is a bit of artistry to it and minor risks of hitting facial nerves - so maybe be a bit more picky with the doctor? (ie. make sure you see a board certified PS). I'm guessing you know all this already. FYI - in Korea - only doctors are allowed to admininster fillers and botox (unlike the states), and techincally, they're only allowed to administer from the hospital/clinic - no house call allowed in Korea and no "certified" non-doctors should be doing fillers/botox.
Hi @Justn27, could you also share the list with me? Thank you!
 
Hello, all! I just want to share my experience of my double eyelid and eyebag surgery in Korea last week. I did it at on Soonplus plastic surgery clinic with Dr Kim Soon Dong. Dr Kim is absolutely specialized in eye surgeries that’s why I picked this clinic after consultation with several other clinics. The surgery was absolutely successful and the staffs there were very kind and supportive. The surgeon checked my eye very carefully and designed it a few times before the surgery (it took almost 15minutes!). The surgery not only helped to correct the shape of my eyes but also help to minimize the wrinkles on my forehead. I got non-incisional double eyelid+ptosis correction and eyebag reposition. It took about 2hours and no scars at all! I didn’t feel much pain during the operation even after the surgery as well. They also provide deswelling laser after the surgery, I think it helps alot to deswell and reduce bruising. Overall I definitely recommend this clinic, it's only famous of locals I think. There were lots of locals I couldn't see any foreigners. That makes me more comfortable. Hope this helps with your journey to Korea!
Could you dm the cost at soonplus and if they provided a translator?
 
Hi @Chloebythesea thank you for sharing your insights! In regards to recommendations for minor cosmetic procedures - I know a few doctors that recently opened they're own clinics in the Gangnam area and I'm sure they would love to have you there. All three doctors speak english, one of the doctors from what I understand is pretty fixed on her prices, but she is a female plastic surgeon. The other two are men - both good guys and very experienced. If you want their clinic names, send me a direct message and I'll share. With that said, mole removal, laser lifts, and other minimally/non-invasive procudures are pretty minor and almost any private plastic surgery clinic can handle it - maybe go for the best price? For fillers and botox - there is a bit of artistry to it and minor risks of hitting facial nerves - so maybe be a bit more picky with the doctor? (ie. make sure you see a board certified PS). I'm guessing you know all this already. FYI - in Korea - only doctors are allowed to admininster fillers and botox (unlike the states), and techincally, they're only allowed to administer from the hospital/clinic - no house call allowed in Korea and no "certified" non-doctors should be doing fillers/botox.
Hi @Justn27 would you be able to share the names of the clinics you recommend? I am considering DES in Korea.
 
Hi @Justn27! Could you also send me a list of clinics you recommend? I don't think I'm able to dm you because of my member status
Hi @Chloebythesea thank you for sharing your insights! In regards to recommendations for minor cosmetic procedures - I know a few doctors that recently opened they're own clinics in the Gangnam area and I'm sure they would love to have you there. All three doctors speak english, one of the doctors from what I understand is pretty fixed on her prices, but she is a female plastic surgeon. The other two are men - both good guys and very experienced. If you want their clinic names, send me a direct message and I'll share. With that said, mole removal, laser lifts, and other minimally/non-invasive procudures are pretty minor and almost any private plastic surgery clinic can handle it - maybe go for the best price? For fillers and botox - there is a bit of artistry to it and minor risks of hitting facial nerves - so maybe be a bit more picky with the doctor? (ie. make sure you see a board certified PS). I'm guessing you know all this already. FYI - in Korea - only doctors are allowed to admininster fillers and botox (unlike the states), and techincally, they're only allowed to administer from the hospital/clinic - no house call allowed in Korea and no "certified" non-doctors should be doing fillers/botox.
 
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